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Posted by Administrator:
Posted by retribution: So basically you DON'T care that people are posting source code for bots on your site? The logic of "oh it's only a LITTLE source code, it won't hurt anyone" is a little obtuse don't you think? That's like saying "oh I didn't beat my wife, I just slapped her a little".
My mind is seriously blown that you'd allow this thread to continue, but hey if that's the site you wanna run, it doesn't really affect me any really. As an affiliate, I find it hard to continue advertising your site, when this is the kind of material you allow. From purely a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense for people to promote a site with questionable material on it. But that's just my 2 cents.
You can't really compare the two (source code vs slapping/beating wife).
I don't know what you know about programming, but that source code above is nothing else than common poker knowledge already. There's nothing useful in it at all, and nothing you can just copy/paste into something and you'll have a bot - not at all. As I wrote, for anyone who knows how to use that code above, they would have been able to write it themselves almost as fast as copy/pasting it. It's really that simple. It's no more questionable than this basic article that, very briefly, describes texas hold'em: http://www.bankrollmob.com/guide/texas-holdem-no-limit
Also, like I wrote, if you want to discuss why this thread should be closed, CREATE A NEW THREAD please - there's no need for this off-topic to continue here, so any further off-topic as to why this thread should be closed, in this thread, will simply be deleted.
So rather than address the issue, you'll simply censor me? Yeah, that's a good way to address an issue.
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Posted by jovicakralj:
Posted by retribution: As an affiliate, I find it hard to continue advertising your site, when this is the kind of material you allow. From purely a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense for people to promote a site with questionable material on it. But that's just my 2 cents.
WOW! What a treat!!! Admin you better apologize to retardbution or you are doomd!!! I dont want to lose this site and if he stops afiliate this site Im afraid that is exactly what is going to happen buahahaha -TROL
Dude, seriously f**k the hell off with your trolling b******t already. When did I say I was going to stop being an affiliate? I said it's in poor business for people to refer business to a site that endorses this sort of activity. I'm trying to illustrate a point that maybe admin is too daft to understand. You certainly don't enhance the atmosphere either. There are many intelligent, useful people here. You, however, are certainly not one of them.
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Posted by retribution: So rather than address the issue, you'll simply censor me? Yeah, that's a good way to address an issue.
How is it censoring when I'm telling you to create a new thread instead? I'm simply trying to keep this thread on-topic and therefor will delete any further off-topic in this thread.
So this bot is set up based on Ryan Fee's 6max strategy guide...that's one hell of an agressive bot. I came across the guide about 3 years ago and lost it before I could finish studying it (couldn't get the site back up). I have it again and it's my new best friend. I understand now why the bots I came across were so agressive. I beat afew, I had to be very, very patient. This info gives me hand ranges and position data I can work on. You said at one point, your bot played FR, can it play (intergraded) both FR and 6max, switch back and forth, or are they completely seperate programs? I'd like to know this because it may be easier to avoid them. I know there are holdem bots and omaha bots. About every 3-5 months I get free trial emails but I won't bite. I believe your right about only the bot company making money. What I did instead was read everything they sent me to use against them. Besides the free trial hand sample is way too small to get a realistic evaluation. Now with this info I better understand the what and why. Knowledge is power and the only thing to fear here is fear itself.
Edited by rbdflyboy (08 November 2011 @ 11:55 GMT)
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First of all, I would like to do not one but several quick questions. You can answer only yes or no if you prefer, but since you have entered the process of developing one, if you intend you can clarify some of this points. 1st – Does a bot plays the same hand always the same way, when receiving the same cards in the same position? 2nd – Is There a way to scare bots, making them fold, like if one reraises twice? 3rd – Does bots follow 100% the odds? 4th – Are there bots in every online poker sites? 5th – Is it possible to have the same bot playing several tables at the same time in different poker sites? 6th – How many hands (more or less) can a bot possess as “studied” in its software? 7th – The group leader kicked you, but perhaps you know enough to continue alone, starting a new group. Will you do it? 8th- How much money did you won developing this? 9th- How much money is possible for a normal poker buyer to win with a tool like this? 10th- If a bot gives the possibility of winning so much money, why selling the secret? Because someone did it before and its another market possibility, I understand, but don’t you win more only put the bot working for you?
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Wow, there's a whole lot of deleted spam here, more than I've ever seen in a thread here before. Now that's crackin' down. Definitely agree the code posted poses no threat.
I have a question: How much did your bot earn in it's trials? Also could you post a graph of it's results? That would be awesome.
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Posted by jvd1986: Well, I dont know. I do know Full Tilt was full of bots, maybe an avarage of 2/3 bots per full ring at the micros. Some guys where running "bot farms", huge ammounts of bots running at the same time,
Well that´s what I thought about ft at the end (after endless "rigged discussions" about it). Fine to read about this topic here. Very interesting stuff and really nice thread. Thanks alot.
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Is it hard to withdraw money made via botting? Now that you have stopped botting, how come YOU have funds on 888 via botting? Are you using the same bot that you and the other guys made? Seams the money on 888 is yours then you know username etc, then show some stats to your 888 account. So far you have only gave info that anyone could get, most answers fairly obvious, at times contradicting, so show some stats. Why use Ryan Fee's 6max strategy guide and play SS? You say YOU only used the bot for cash games, so you know its name, now you are out of the group, and as you said you are happy to expose them, whats its user name and what site does it play now. Last, you claim shanky's bot to be crap, yet it seams to be the most successful bot around, you then say your bot made very little, are you sure you know what you are doing, did they just use you or did they think you are a bad link? Would you have been better using shanky.
I think the bots is present in every room, just not who knows it. this is my opinion although I could be wrong. not once did I have not seen bots though lie saw at full tilt. seen as playing a program and not man.
