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@ godwar89

Yes, I play at Stars...I play MTT's and SnG's...very little cash table and at lower stakes...and I assure you I am very human. So, if your question is directed at me I will tell you now I do not own a bot. I understand them because there are times when I must defend against them as with any other type player. Know the enemy...your best friend was the fold button.

     
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I really dont get it. I'm no longer the only person that thinks this thread is locked, nor that it's just a thread for OP to brag in. Op is not really giving concise, well thought out "answers". That is unless you consider crap like:


14. whats the biggest " DO" and "DONT" while using bots?
Wont answer this one as it is not the intention of this thread

15.Why did u join this project?
For kicks and cash



To somehow be useful information. I mean COME on, this is absolute b******t and needs to be locked. This isn't good information, it's not helping anyone.

*EDIT*

Op, we get it. You used to bot. You want to brag about it. Okay, you did, good for you. We don't think your cool, you still have a small d**k, now take your b******t and gtfo or start actually contributing something of value. Answers like the above just show your an idiot and aren't here to actually help anyone but yourself.

     
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Posted by retribution:
I really dont get it. I'm no longer the only person that thinks this thread is locked, nor that it's just a thread for OP to brag in. Op is not really giving concise, well thought out "answers". That is unless you consider crap like:


14. whats the biggest " DO" and "DONT" while using bots?
Wont answer this one as it is not the intention of this thread

15.Why did u join this project?
For kicks and cash



To somehow be useful information. I mean COME on, this is absolute b******t and needs to be locked. This isn't good information, it's not helping anyone.

*EDIT*

Op, we get it. You used to bot. You want to brag about it. Okay, you did, good for you. We don't think your cool, you still have a small d**k, now take your b******t and gtfo or start actually contributing something of value. Answers like the above just show your an idiot and aren't here to actually help anyone but yourself.

lol

well for me the questions also sound more like "ask your favorite baseballstar whats he doing in his free time or what kind of leisure-time activitys he has" Big Smile
but as long as they dont harm anyone.....who cares.
so far i havent seen any really usefull information to detect boting.

     
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retribution i thought we had lost a valuable giving member of the member of the community Big Smile your still wanting this thread closed and your not going to be here Confused

     
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f**k off retribution.. u sir, are an ass. *middle finger emoticon*

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its as though retribution wants this info to be suppressed for some reason..this is a relatively new topic and lots of us are hearing of this for the first time .. and i can assure you , there is 0% information in this thread which could assist a person to construct a bot ..so chill out!

Edited by krish21 (31 October 2011 @ 21:37 GMT)


     
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The point of this thread is DE-mystifying the pokerbotting phenomena. Allot of online players are constantly shouting about bots, while infact, as some other user mentioned before me. There is very little to be afraid of, as most bots suck even more then the avarage human does.
And putting a bot together that does not suck, and outplays above avarage human plrs, on medium+ stake. Seriously takes just as much time from several people, as a full time job does. And it doesnt pay out unless they succeed.

So go figure, multiple people have to work hard together for several months, while not getting paid in the development phase, and serious risk of not getting paid at all.
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As to more effective ways to exploit bots; I/we could buy a shanky bot license and run several out of the package profiles against poker academy(thus, offline) to get exact statistics on each profile. That way, you can filter them out if you have enough hands in your dbase. And possibly , exploit hem and hunt em down.
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"Letting people know stuff about stuff is bad hmmkay"
Blink

Edited by jvd1986 (31 October 2011 @ 21:49 GMT)


     
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Wow, retibution lower the hate just a little, you have a point but it's hard for anyone to see through all the rage. As mentioned we still haven't heard to much on how average players can detect a bot.

One time someone at a table called "Bot", when I asked him how he knew he said, "Anyone who's not a bot respond to this message". I don't think that's a very usefull strategy however as multi-tablers are way to busy to chat.

     
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@Arithmajik

True, and making a chatbot is easyer then making a good pokerbot, a chatbot can easily be implemented

     
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Posted by krish21:
f**k off retribution.. u sir, are an ass. *middle finger emoticon*

hey man stop turning this thread into 'abuse each other' thread or it'll be locked
if u wanna join the discussion, atleast talk some sense

     
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by krish21:
f**k off retribution.. u sir, are an ass. *middle finger emoticon*

hey man stop turning this thread into 'abuse each other' thread or it'll be locked
if u wanna join the discussion, atleast talk some sense


Uhmm, I've been saying since the beginning this thread needs to be locked.

     
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Posted by krish21:
..so chill out!


you too....btw welcome here

     
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have to say i was having the same sort of emotions as retribution when this thread started,but now i think its a good thing jvd1986 is doing,if it gives us a better idea of how bots work then we can adjust when on a table with a suspect,so please dont lock this thread admin.... Worship

     
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GREAT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thumbs Up

     
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Posted by callie28:
have to say i was having the same sort of emotions as retribution when this thread started,but now i think its a good thing jvd1986 is doing,if it gives us a better idea of how bots work then we can adjust when on a table with a suspect,so please dont lock this thread admin.... Worship


Yes. I would totally agree with that absolutely, and my stance would be a lot different on the subject. However, I have yet to see one post by OP that actually gives us real, relevant, useful information.

I mean seriously, he hasn't made 1 single actualy useful post. That's exactly why I say it's just a brag thread and not meant to be helpful.

So to op again I say, post something useful or gtfo already.

     
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@retribution

So what would you find useful

     
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Posted by jvd1986:
@retribution

So what would you find useful


A) If you actually answered the questions you were asked
B) If your answers weren't half-cocked, monosyllabic nonsense.


     
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I answer questions, I don't answer to insults or name calling.

The 2 "monosyllabic" answers you are referring to, and selectively quoted from my post to ridicule me, are answers to off-topic Q's (how do I make a bot, why did you do it).

I don't feel obliged to write an elaborate essay about an off-topic Q.

Of course, you think that's ridiculous and proves im a fraud, a crook, a fuckass and what not.

I dont care, just keep away from this thread so we can go on-topic again.You and your narcissistic behavior are ruining this thread.
Retribution is not the center of our galaxy,

     
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Posted by jvd1986:
I answer questions, I don't answer to insults or name calling.

The 2 "monosyllabic" answers you are referring to, and selectively quoted from my post to ridicule me, are answers to off-topic Q's (how do I make a bot, why did you do it).

I don't feel obliged to write an elaborate essay about an off-topic Q.

Of course, you think that's ridiculous and proves im a fraud, a crook, a fuckass and what not.

I dont care, just keep away from this thread so we can go on-topic again.You and your narcissistic behavior are ruining this thread.
Retribution is not the center of our galaxy,


Well you don't exactly answer questions very well, now do you?

Seriously, I fail to see how "why did you do it" is not a relevant question to the thread. Dismissing a question like that just proves your disdain for this thread in general. I wasn't selectively quoting anything, really I can go back and find all your answers. None of which really showed much thought process or gave real information. No-ones asking for an essay, just some actual relevant information.

No, Retribution is the center of all of existence, get it right mofo!!! Cool

So again, how bout you start giving real answers, instead of being a doucher...mmmkay?

     
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ok few more questions

1. well u said most of the bots are handicapped version bought by ppl.
can u put up a % or number of good bots on sites?

2. where are bots more likely to be present?
full ring/ short handed/ HU

3.how would u put predominant playing style of bots ( including handicapped) in %
Tight aggressiv
tight passive
loose aggressive
loose passive

4. what are the things which most of the bots wont do?
e.g. sitting in ring games with min stack
check-raising
min- betting
flat betting
preflop allins
slow playing big hands
weird bets - like betting 107 in 600 pot
allin at flop for small pots

5.are bots able to change their playin style by themselves in a single session?

6. which country players are most involved in botting?

     
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