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I'm not sorry at all because half of your story is still a lie,for example you "taking out 1.2K" and then dropping back down to $7s which never happened. The thing that happened is you lost that 1K HU and are butthurt about it. What I also like is that the mentioned stuff in OP happened on october 30th,the funny thing is after this "rigged" stuff happened you still played yesterday and you did not "turn off and not go back". I wouldnt even be surprised if that 82o hand isn't made up either,if it isn't,you still lied about the most random s**t so I see no reason why you should not be called a liar
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@ fcumred i hav 1 small question if u dnt mind answering -
after u won with 82 1st hand preflop allin in 500$ HU match just because ' u knew u were winning this' did u go allin 1st hand preflop in 1000$ HU game too? If no, then why not?
and if u played ring games before that 1000$ game - were u doing allin preflop there too?
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GOTTA LOVE HOW THE HALF-WITS TRY TO PICK AT THE SMALL THINGS(LIKE GOD FORBID U MADE A MISTAKE IN YOUR MATH,WHICH YOU DID NOT)ALL THE MEANWHILE FORGETTING THE POINT OF YOUR BLOG FACT IS IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT CARDS IN ONLINE POKER CAN BE GENERATED"ON THE FLY" BUT THE SITE CLAIMS IT IS A RANDOM NUMBERS GENERATOR TO KEEP IT FAIR AND RANDOM.BS!
------------ FCUMRED,BE SMART AND LEARN FROM THIS,AND MOST OF ALLDO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DELETE POKERSTARS.AND BY THE WAY HALF-WITS THAT WANT TO QUESTION WHAT "ON THE FLY MEANS" LOOK IT UP!IF YOU HAVE TIME TO NITPICK SOMEONE'S BLOGS ON HERE,YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK FOR ANSWERS
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Ha ha, Supernoob, great song choice. Pretty sums things up nicely.
I'm i the same school of thought as the others here. Every serious gambler has a story of the one night they couldn't lose and the one that everything went down hill. Classic, and online poker is o different, chance is chance.
Posted by BeMyATMplz: I'm not sorry at all because half of your story is still a lie,for example you "taking out 1.2K" and then dropping back down to $7s which never happened. The thing that happened is you lost that 1K HU and are butthurt about it. What I also like is that the mentioned stuff in OP happened on october 30th,the funny thing is after this "rigged" stuff happened you still played yesterday and you did not "turn off and not go back". I wouldnt even be surprised if that 82o hand isn't made up either,if it isn't,you still lied about the most random s**t so I see no reason why you should not be called a liar
Brains are really not your strongest asset are they.
Note EXACTLY what I wrote in the original post about how I won big THEN I started to lose in an identical manner to the way in which I won.
So after I won, then I went through a period of losing, even the dopiest idiot on this planet can fathom out I needed to play again after I won.... If I stopped playing straight away then how the hell did I go through a losing streak...
Rather than going around trying to pick holes because you just cannot comprehend that poker sites can possibly twist results around, why not open your rather narrow mind to the possibility that its perfectly easy for them to decide the outcome of the hand given that they know what cards 2 players have and what is at stake.
I'd also love you to tell me the answer to this one, if its completely impossible not to rig poker...
They are running the 70 billionth hand on PS. Now every single hand is given a number whether its in a tournament, ring game, SNG etc.. Can you tell me how they manage to ensure that the millionth hand ALWAYS happens to land on a ring game... WHy couldn't the 70 billionth hand land on a MTT or an SNG.. How can they possibly ensure that it falls on a ring game if they have no control over it.
( and I've checked and MTTs hand numbers are counted in the same number as Ring games, so theres no way they can possibly dictate that each hand MUST fall on a ring game without them controlling it themselves.
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Posted by MRFRANNIED: GOTTA LOVE HOW THE HALF-WITS TRY TO PICK AT THE SMALL THINGS(LIKE GOD FORBID U MADE A MISTAKE IN YOUR MATH,WHICH YOU DID NOT)ALL THE MEANWHILE FORGETTING THE POINT OF YOUR BLOG FACT IS IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT CARDS IN ONLINE POKER CAN BE GENERATED"ON THE FLY" BUT THE SITE CLAIMS IT IS A RANDOM NUMBERS GENERATOR TO KEEP IT FAIR AND RANDOM.BS!
------------ FCUMRED,BE SMART AND LEARN FROM THIS,AND MOST OF ALLDO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DELETE POKERSTARS.AND BY THE WAY HALF-WITS THAT WANT TO QUESTION WHAT "ON THE FLY MEANS" LOOK IT UP!IF YOU HAVE TIME TO NITPICK SOMEONE'S BLOGS ON HERE,YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK FOR ANSWERS
Thats the point. Its ridiculous that people cannot comprehend that pokersites can rig action to suit their needs. In fact it would be the easiest thing to do.
What really makes me laugh is theres people on here who rely on Sharkscope to prove/disprove arguments. Do you really think Sharkscope has people checking every single result. Nope of course not, they use the computers to gain results etc. Sharkscope gives you rankings and ratings based on the info that PS holds. So its perfectly easy for Sharkscope to gain access to millions of results and create a ladder system and ratings table, but PS couldnt possibly do it..
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Extreme luck or extreme bad luck happens, you can't conclude that it is rigged. If PS chooses a random player like you to manipulate his fate then the site would do it for every player. The statistics would be messed up. However every hand DB stats are clearly plausible stats and general probabilities seem normal, which give a hint whether online poker is rigged or not. I just think variance came into play, nothing else.
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Posted by fcumred:
I'd also love you to tell me the answer to this one, if its completely impossible not to rig poker...
They are running the 70 billionth hand on PS. Now every single hand is given a number whether its in a tournament, ring game, SNG etc.. Can you tell me how they manage to ensure that the millionth hand ALWAYS happens to land on a ring game... WHy couldn't the 70 billionth hand land on a MTT or an SNG.. How can they possibly ensure that it falls on a ring game if they have no control over it.
I will gladly tell you that since it's been answered about a hundred times on several forums before (maybe doing a little research helps sometimes?). The thing they do is they stop play @ SNGs/MTTs right before a molestone hand is about to hit,this little stop is very short though (I'd say they probably stop it with 1000 hands or so to go),and thus obv. they never hit @ SNGs/MTTs.
And no,I dont care at all if you lost,when you lost or whatever,you lied about withdrawing a chunk of money and acted like you were immortal (as in,you couldnt lose) while you failed to win a 1K SNG.
And no,you are also wrong about how sharkscope works,lol. They track every played SNG/MTT themself,PS doesn't send them any results,so no,sharkscope does not give rankings based on "info that PS holds".
If PS was rigged,how comes people are able to consistantly win there? It's simple maths that it wouldnt be possible.Tracking programms like HEM do prove every player has variance,every reasonable graph proves it,and the same applies on all other sites.
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it is rigged, its not natural, and it is supposed to be random generated and it is not, you can almost sit there and pick out what the turn and river are going to be on any given hand...i live close to niagara casino and play LIVE all the time....thats true poker...., online has so many bad beats it isn't even funny...if you don't play live cash games or LIVE tournaments on a regular basis then you have NO CLUE what you are talking about...like comparing apples and oranges
Usually people rant when they lose about it being rigged, but on this occasion I could have called with anything and still won.
This is a case of someone winning and thinking something wasn't right... I mean come on, 8 2 offsuit in an $500 HU game and lose to 8 8... Why would I shove with 8 2.. because I knew I would win no matter what I was up against.
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The moment i read this post, I could relate to it, thought the same on many days, Mostly the winning sessions that ive played, just hit runner runner 3 times in a row, Also had 3 bad beats in a row at ps, Not sure on the odds of 3 bad beats in row. Maybe a maths bod can wok it out . In my opinion THIS IS A GAME WHERE MONEY IS INVOLVED, Therfore greed takes over natural instinct, Many thousand's of years there has been takers and givers, ps is a taker, BUT i love poker, Bad beats and hot streaks, Gives me a life buzz, like coffe and women, Greed Everyone wants something, Spend what u can afford to,
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Posted by Goldcox: The moment i read this post, I could relate to it, thought the same on many days, Mostly the winning sessions that ive played, just hit runner runner 3 times in a row, Also had 3 bad beats in a row at ps, Not sure on the odds of 3 bad beats in row. Maybe a maths bod can wok it out . In my opinion THIS IS A GAME WHERE MONEY IS INVOLVED, Therfore greed takes over natural instinct, Many thousand's of years there has been takers and givers, ps is a taker, BUT i love poker, Bad beats and hot streaks, Gives me a life buzz, like coffe and women, Greed Everyone wants something, Spend what u can afford to,
lol, PS is probably the most non-greedy site on the net. - they refund players that accidently register for tourneys (as long as it happens only once) - They contact players that got cheated by themself and compensate them - They have pretty much the lowest rake on the net (especially for SNGs) - They pay loads of money through their promotions (battle of planets,tournament leaderboard,high rakeback for supernova and supernova elite etc.)
Some people say PS are greedy because they dont offer rakeback,but that's pure b******t. Supernova and especially supernova elite players receive insane amounts of rakeback. Platinstar is pretty good as well. I find the fact that they award the players with high volume with a higher "%" than the randoms who maybe play 5 games per week or so. If you want something,you have to do something for it.
Besides,3 bad beats in a row is not unlikely at all. Lets just assume by bad beat you mean 3 hands you have ~ 20% equity on average,then that means there is a 0.8% chance of this happening,which is once every 125 times. Now this seems not much, but seeing you play by far more hands online it can happen relativly frequently
