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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Some people say PS are greedy because they dont offer rakeback,but that's pure b******t.
Supernova and especially supernova elite players receive insane amounts of rakeback.
Platinstar is pretty good as well.
I find the fact that they award the players with high volume with a higher "%" than the randoms who maybe play 5 games per week or so.
If you want something,you have to do something for it.


Totally agree with the more back for grinders thingy, amust for every pokerroom imo.

Anyway wot % rakeback gets supernova, supernova elite?
I wud never go to a room who gives me less then 50% rakeback (combined with 1st dep deals it can be much higher)
For example myself as middle stakes SNG/MTT player which rakes sometin like $30/$50 a day so $1000/$1500 paid rake a month if i grind (not big i know), wot % rakeback i wud get on stars?

     
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I had faith, back to the rails now Smile


     
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It depends how you spend your FPPs.
With $50 rake per day on average you should be able to make platinstar every month,and supernova by the end of the year (2012 is what I mean though).
As platinstar you get ~ 25% value from your FPPs,you can make slightly more if you use them for satellites and take the T$.
This calculation doesnt include all stellar awards you will earn though,so it should be more like in the 30-35% range.
It also doesnt include promotions like battle of planets (SNG leaderboard) where you can earn some extra cash,and VIP freerolls.

As supernova it depends again how many yearly VPPs you will make.
The sole VPP value should be about 30%,however you get lots of extra benefits like a $1M freeroll 4 times per year and stuff like that.
You also have the possibility to get "milestone bonuses" which gives you extra cash at a certain amount of VPPs.
Overall I'd say supernova should be worth 50-55% in the end.
I'll go for it next year Smile

Supernova elite is about 80%,but that's really hard to get and nearly impossible to get that unless you're pro (I only know of 1 person who's got it while he has a job)

I think overall you will be able to make more rake than what you'd expect as well,it's very easy to play many tables properly because the software is really good in that aspect


     
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Value is for Schmucks, hard cash is where its at.
PS is gay. Poker "the brown" Stars, gay
Happy fudge packing PS chutney ferrite lovers.

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
hard cash is where its at.


Obv. you can convert FPPs for for cash as well,you will get less for your FPPs overall that way though Blink

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by B1gfoot:
I'm fairly sure it would show him winning what he said he won, I don't doubt that.
I played a game (HU NL25) a few days back, and I was on fire, I thought I was playing a donk who could not fold etc etc... I was thinking wow I'm plaaying good, so looked over my HH for that game to find that I was lucky as fook, hands like villins set on flop with me with TP to river higher set, rivering FHs against flushes, nearly every hand I won I came from behind...I took almost 3 stacks via luck, some days are just like that, but few and far between.
Just a lucky winning streak IMO.


This is EXACTLY what it was like, and I've never seen anything like it. First it went in my favour and I was hitting runner runner, coming from behind every single time. At first it seemed like me being lucky, but then it started to get too suspicious.

Every single hand played seemed to have bits and bobs that both players had a bit of, usually with him having a better flop than me, only for me to come back on the turn and river.

Then of course it went the other way. Every flop I connected with. They'd be behind and come back on the turn and river, and with the cards on the flop I could almost determine the hand they had.

A classic was I had 66 in a 9 man 25NL ring game. Early position raise, so I flat call. The BB flat calls. The flop comes over 6 9 10. The early position player c-bets and I am pretty sure he's got something in the range of JJ, QQ or at worst AQ, AK.. So I re-raise. The BB folds and its HU.

With the flop as it was, there was no way I could see myself being behind. He then moves all in and I am sure he's got an over pair. I don't see him having 99 or 10 10 as my notes on him said tight and likes to limp with middle PPs.

I call the all in and imagine my shock to see him turn over 7 8 offsuit.

Now come on, a tight player who never raises usually with anything other than premium hands, and he hits a perfect flop like that against a set. Of course no help on the board.

One minute thats exactly what I am doing, hitting everything, the minute I cash out it then goes the other way and they hit the perfect hand, usually coming from behind and with the hands I have theres little or no way I can fold.



NOW I get what you´re saying!
You mean your streak turned around the moment after you "cashed out"...


Statistical "anomalies" will cause all of us to look for a "reasonable" explanation...
But this ain´t it. Blink
By the same token, every time you deposit you should be hitting that winning streak again.

     
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haha supernoob i was thinking the same strange not to see jess in this thread ATM is taking on the task Big Smile

     
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Erm,. OK folks, I think you better have a re look at my sharkscope

Now tell me that theres something not quite right..

From $60 to over $3k in less than 6 hours

Either I am a poker genius or something isnt right here


Have a look at my sharkscope graph

Nemo1969




Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by Jibberish:
maybe because ur a fish


He does in fact have a fish icon next to his name on sharkscope Big Smile



Do I really..

Go have a second look...

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Erm,. OK folks, I think you better have a re look at my sharkscope

Now tell me that theres something not quite right..

From $60 to over $3k in less than 6 hours

Either I am a poker genius or something isnt right here


Have a look at my sharkscope graph

Nemo1969




Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

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Posted by Jibberish:
maybe because ur a fish


He does in fact have a fish icon next to his name on sharkscope Big Smile



Do I really..

Go have a second look...


You're a fish on a heater,thats all.
lol @ you thinking because you lucked some HUs in a row means you're any good.

And yes,you have a fish icon next to your name,you fish Blink
The screenshot down there is of 2 days ago before your HU streak which was only a heater,but the current one still has you with fish icon Smile

Attached ImagesEV lol.png

     
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Major upswing Big Smile I lol'd, you'll be broke in less then 6 hours if you keep playing.

     
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by fcumred:
Erm,. OK folks, I think you better have a re look at my sharkscope

Now tell me that theres something not quite right..

From $60 to over $3k in less than 6 hours

Either I am a poker genius or something isnt right here


Have a look at my sharkscope graph

Nemo1969




Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

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Posted by Jibberish:
maybe because ur a fish


He does in fact have a fish icon next to his name on sharkscope Big Smile



Do I really..

Go have a second look...


You're a fish on a heater,thats all.
lol @ you thinking because you lucked some HUs in a row means you're any good.

And yes,you have a fish icon next to your name,you fish Blink
The screenshot down there is of 2 days ago before your HU streak which was only a heater,but the current one still has you with fish icon Smile


You really are the most stupid idiot I've ever come across.

In my original post I said that this has nothing to do with skill, its purely down to the fact that if PS wasnts me to win then I will win, if not then I lose.

Now what part of that are you struggling to comprehend. I know you are german, but come on, even you can't be that stupid that you cant comprehend basic english ( given that you reply in ENlgish).

Secondly, I love how you choose the general snapshot of Sharkscope. WHy don't you show the one that is for SNGs only....

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Posted by Noisecore:
Major upswing Big Smile I lol'd, you'll be broke in less then 6 hours if you keep playing.


Already cashed some out and planning to take more out once the limits are reset.

     
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Posted by fcumred:
In my original post I said that this has nothing to do with skill, its purely down to the fact that if PS wasnts me to win then I will win, if not then I lose.


Aha,and whats the reasoning for them doing that for over 3K games? Why would they target a single player for this long?
Makes no sense,not to mention that you seem to be really bad either way seeing you dont even understand variance in poker.

And about your SNG-only graph,$460 profit over 1.5K games with $21 ABI is nothing to be proud of really,plus the overall graph is what really matters anyways.

     
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I know that feelind.sunday I made 70c to 27 Dollar I calld every hand and and won.today I playd 700 hands and down to 5.5 Dollar .AA,KK,AK raise ,re raise ,rere raise call and still lose to some s**t hitting nothing to their 2 pair Aww crap! flopping flush A high and losing it to full hause Aww crap! Nothing is working for me today.playd micro HU game and lost them to had K9 run into A9 off.It was bad day for me stopped playng and hope to win it back soon

     
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Posted by urmas1983:
sunday I made 70c to 27 Dollar.. ....today I playd 700 hands and down to 5.5 Dollar


Bankroll management is your friend

     
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I would even say : bankroll management is your best friend

     
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