what type off play should you have when playing against a lucky donk?
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Joined: Jan '11
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I was thinking that everybody can post a small thing that can help you when playing against this type of player...i think you definetly should re -raise when you have a proper card and be carefull to fold when you don t hit a good flop for you cards
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- Play tight - fold your trash - bet your premium hands bigger - make them pay for them calling down with their gutshots/bottom pairs - Don't get tricky,just bet,bet,bet
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All the above will work with most of the donks. But those wont do the trick to those donks who feel and are lucky. And they are the ones tilting you the most
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perfect thread...i only play good starting hands, but always get beat by worse hands..i am still trying to work on my tilt and improve, so any advice is good and will take all of it
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if you are playing on micro levels, never try to bluff! People tend to pay with any given 2 or 4 cards. But if do for some obscure reason feel the need to bluff, only do it with cards that arent that easily dominated, cards that can be improved(semibluff). If you get called and didn´t hit on turn..FOLD, they are likely to call/bet you on every bet for the hand.
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try not to underestimate his hand..if you get tilted or annoyed ..though he is a donk he migh hold AA cause his luck is better than yours ..play when you have position against him and be carefull not to force your hand
Joined: Jan '11
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added a pole by the way ..always tag your donk ..so you ll know when they are anywere near you and to adjust your playing style accordingly -pick your starting hands more selectively and call less often -be more aggresive after the flop -check raise and slow play much more often -don t bluff but induce bluffs by him -try to isolate him by raising his bet
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I think I already said this here, but I keep the same idea. A good player must know how to play against other good players, but also must know how to defeat what can be a donk player. Many of us already did donk plays, even after knowing what to do. For instance, when we suffer a bad beat and keep in the tourney with so few chips we want to cry, what do we do? Go all-in with any hand, either I double or triple it to keep fighting for something on the tourney or I go away fast. We feel there is no reason to keep in the tourney with only 4 or 5 BBs when there is still a long way to the paid places. But it our all-in goes right, at that time we start again fighting for the objective. That’s a donk play from a good player.
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just considered my check raise strategy ..in 75 % of the cases the donk folded if i checked raise or re raised him ...but tight game rules apply tto this to...it s a showdown game after all so in the end the best hand wins ...another idea..avoid playing with second best hands even though you might be tempted do to so cause the guy is a real pain in the ....and try not to get to fancy i see some good plays apear here as i see ..i ll try a little bit of all ,in a free roll were i m sure i ll find a canditate to test on ) and if you slow play a good hand with a donk it s likely that he would bet ...but this contradicts the not so fancy game strategy ...
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I just play tight, strong hands (folding trash ya!).. when i hit flop raise big and just dont letting donk to see chip turn/river.. beting beting beting
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Be particularly careful if there are three or four donks on the table. Think twice about re-raising. A re-raise will often start a cascade of all-ins. It's the last thing you want to see when holding a premium hand.
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Posted by zeroster: Be particularly careful if there are three or four donks on the table. Think twice about re-raising. A re-raise will often start a cascade of all-ins. It's the last thing you want to see when holding a premium hand.
Why should tight aggressive be the best play? I'm not saying it isn't, but I don't really understand.
When somebody is playing, and is aggressively betting, any 2 cards, the intuitive thing to do, seems to me, is to widen your range as well. Otherwise he'll just fold when you start playing back at him, and winning every other pot.
Why not just play a wider range, but only when you have position. Maybe you can pick up on the size of his bets, for indicators of his hand strength?
Also these type of players, often just stay around for a few hands, before moving on to a different table. Quite frustrating when they take your money, when you folded your top pair a few times, because of a large bluff, and then they leave...
I don't have a good answer myself (I do not play these situations well), and feel that I can take their money, only if they stick around for long enough, with tight aggressive play.