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Playing against donks -feel free to post anything you consider proper  0   
I was thinking that everybody can post a small thing that can help you when playing against this type of player...i think you definetly should re -raise when you have a proper card and be carefull to fold when you don t hit a good flop for you cards

     
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- Play tight
- fold your trash
- bet your premium hands bigger
- make them pay for them calling down with their gutshots/bottom pairs
- Don't get tricky,just bet,bet,bet

     
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All the above will work with most of the donks.
But those wont do the trick to those donks who feel and are lucky.
And they are the ones tilting you the most Smile

     
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perfect thread...i only play good starting hands, but always get beat by worse hands..i am still trying to work on my tilt and improve, so any advice is good and will take all of it Smile

     
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Posted by Mober:
But those wont do the trick to those donks who feel and are lucky.


There is no solution against them,there is rarely a solution for anything luck-involved in poker,all you can do is maximizing your value vs. them.

     
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by Mober:
But those wont do the trick to those donks who feel and are lucky.


There is no solution against them,there is rarely a solution for anything luck-involved in poker,all you can do is maximizing your value vs. them.


how true... I try light 3 beting and pot size check raises in position

     
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if you are playing on micro levels, never try to bluff! People tend to pay with any given 2 or 4 cards. But if do for some obscure reason feel the need to bluff, only do it with cards that arent that easily dominated, cards that can be improved(semibluff). If you get called and didn´t hit on turn..FOLD, they are likely to call/bet you on every bet for the hand.

     
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try not to underestimate his hand..if you get tilted or annoyed ..though he is a donk he migh hold AA cause his luck is better than yours ..play when you have position against him and be carefull not to force your hand

     
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What a great theme, the game vs donks!

Hate / love. Donks make our bank grows and as the tables that become harder always a pleasure to find someone who 3bet vs UTG 36o.

Hate. Donks ALWAYS destroy my options in MTTs.

How to play?

TAG Vs donk, why we need to play another kind of game?

     
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added a pole Smile by the way ..always tag your donk ..so you ll know when they are anywere near you and to adjust your playing style accordingly
-pick your starting hands more selectively and call less often
-be more aggresive after the flop
-check raise and slow play much more often
-don t bluff but induce bluffs by him
-try to isolate him by raising his bet

Edited by BeLLuM (14 November 2011 @ 11:31 GMT)


     
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I think I already said this here, but I keep the same idea. A good player must know how to play against other good players, but also must know how to defeat what can be a donk player. Many of us already did donk plays, even after knowing what to do. For instance, when we suffer a bad beat and keep in the tourney with so few chips we want to cry, what do we do? Go all-in with any hand, either I double or triple it to keep fighting for something on the tourney or I go away fast. We feel there is no reason to keep in the tourney with only 4 or 5 BBs when there is still a long way to the paid places. But it our all-in goes right, at that time we start again fighting for the objective. That’s a donk play from a good player.

     
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Posted by BeLLuM:
-check raise and slow play much more often
induce bluffs by him


No,just no,lol.
please don't play like this.

Just play straight forward with your value hands and check/fold the rest

     
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so that s were i was making a mistake..hmm...give it another thought..ty bemyatmplz.. Thumbs Up

     
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just play ABC poker, dont try to pull moves or trick them.
they are already confused where they stand in the hand Tongue so just use it to your advantage Blink

     
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I think you should always play really tight and of course play really aggressive all good hands to get the most out of your hands Blink

Good luck at the tables and also keep in mind that these are rules that often apply to cah games, sng and mtt is very different....

     
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just considered my check raise strategy ..in 75 % of the cases the donk folded if i checked raise or re raised him ...but tight game rules apply tto this to...it s a showdown game after all so in the end the best hand wins ...another idea..avoid playing with second best hands even though you might be tempted do to so cause the guy is a real pain in the ....and try not to get to fancy i see Smile Thumbs Up some good plays apear here as i see ..i ll try a little bit of all ,in a free roll were i m sure i ll find a canditate to test on Smile)
and if you slow play a good hand with a donk it s likely that he would bet ...but this contradicts the not so fancy game strategy ... Question

Edited by BeLLuM (14 November 2011 @ 15:24 GMT)


     
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I just play tight, strong hands (folding trash ya!).. when i hit flop raise big and just dont letting donk to see chip turn/river.. beting beting beting

     
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Be particularly careful if there are three or four donks on the table. Think twice about re-raising. A re-raise will often start a cascade of all-ins. It's the last thing you want to see when holding a premium hand.

     
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Posted by zeroster:
Be particularly careful if there are three or four donks on the table. Think twice about re-raising. A re-raise will often start a cascade of all-ins. It's the last thing you want to see when holding a premium hand.


i agree!!!

     
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Why should tight aggressive be the best play? I'm not saying it isn't, but I don't really understand.

When somebody is playing, and is aggressively betting, any 2 cards, the intuitive thing to do, seems to me, is to widen your range as well. Otherwise he'll just fold when you start playing back at him, and winning every other pot.

Why not just play a wider range, but only when you have position. Maybe you can pick up on the size of his bets, for indicators of his hand strength?

Also these type of players, often just stay around for a few hands, before moving on to a different table. Quite frustrating when they take your money, when you folded your top pair a few times, because of a large bluff, and then they leave...

I don't have a good answer myself (I do not play these situations well), and feel that I can take their money, only if they stick around for long enough, with tight aggressive play.

Good question.

     
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