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Joined: Nov '10
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Posted by dlkiv: lol if we as members get to choose who is banned and who is not then please let me know cause I have a couple in mind
Tony and Mob-manager are fully capable of making decisions on who stays ,( look back over the past few years of posts on who got banned and why).
Not to sound that I don't get what your saying but IMO to start a thread,( not Tread ), saying someone needs to be banned is out of line.
Tony doesnt read every tread. Tony doesnt read every post. He may not be aware of this. And he probably was not aware that his site was used by someone to get rid of money earned by bots. Im not choosing nothing. Im just saying my personal opinion. Also Im warning people who started any deals or thought about starting it to stop that. Im making suggestion to ban jvd since I believe he broke some rules and Tony was not aware of that maybe. Also I made poll to see what other people think. Or maybe best thing to do is to do nothing and let that guy to scam people?
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 6669
I really think it's impossible to stop scamers register on bankrollmob thats why i think it's safer to ban all threads that have subject money exchange...
I think a couple days ago a mobster was tricked in "public"...
thanks for the theme. it is very important not to get on these people. and from where in lyudem brains to such offer and who generally sogloshaetsya on this scam. Thanks for warning.
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted by vlplastika: thanks for the theme. it is very important not to get on these people. and from where in lyudem brains to such offer and who generally sogloshaetsya on this scam. Thanks for warning.
hello nice to see a ruskie like yourself on the seen again
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
Well I don't like to air my views. But, fist, what if he pays up, looks like he will, but who knows, you even say possible scammer, who gets to judge. Second, what if someone crys scam, just because things dont go as smooth as they would like, lets say they get banned and have no means to say hey, sorry, problem my end will be sorted friday, or did you give me the right details, it wont send etc. Third, this is IMO a took a risk so cant bitch, people will be cheated out of cash. Last, what if he never said i was via botting, is it OK then, just as long as you don't know?
Bankrollmob should move well away from all this exchange, this site is to offer bonuses etc, if I wanted to give BRM members money to boost my poker site I would check it out, if I seen that BRM was letting its users "pass on the money" then I would not make offers with them. If the let this happen it WILL snowball, all botters will be here, MrNice does a good dead to MrCheat, MrCheat gets the clean money, MrNice has his account froze and details passed on. I agree that at times its a god send, but overall, when it comes to money there are more MrNastys in the world.
Can anyone think of a positive reason why BRM should allow money exchanges?
There are people who do fair exchanges no doubt, but a huge amount will be botters, countries not aloud to play, those who do not want to full fill a bonus etc etc. If a botter is caught out, multi accounting for eg, and you do an exchange or two, he walks away smiling, using the fake ID, obtaining money by deception, whilst you get a knock on the door and asked to explain the transactions, have bank accounts frozen, and any funds traced to the botter confiscated. Remember ignorance is not a defence, and convicted come with time, not a fine.
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
Posted by jovicakralj: Tony doesnt read every tread. Tony doesnt read every post. He may not be aware of this. And he probably was not aware that his site was used by someone to get rid of money earned by bots. Im not choosing nothing.
does it matter if its "bot" money or clean money?
i dont think its BRM guilt or in their concern if members trade money, or if they want to sell their tamagochi on this forum in exchange for money. everyone is for him self responsible.
its all up to you, you should know the risk - simple.
i personaly would never do that, except for a handfull of members which i find trustfully.
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by T3ddyKGB: or if they want to sell their tamagochi on this forum in exchange for money
wow never heard of this thing before. just read about it on wiki.
Upon reaching a specific age and friendship level with another Tamagotchi, the player's Tamagotchi will be able to mate with another Tamagotchi of the opposite gender, usually arranged by an elderly Tamagotchi known as "the Matchmaker" or "Mrs. Busybody". Once the two Tamagotchis mate successfully, the female produces two infant Tamagotchis, one which is kept by the father, and the other by the mother. After 24 hours pass, the parent leaves the baby, starting a brand new generation.
seems a very silly thing though ................................ sorry jovi and others for this off topic post
Joined: Mar '08
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@T3ddyKGB You are right, but what I think is their concern is the sites it affiliates Say HP decides to giveaway NDBs or gifts, making the affiliate money and more users etc, They will look over BRM members and see that everyone is filtering the money out unfairly and then see BRM has an active forum allowing its users to do so, they will take the offer elsewhere.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
In no case i agree with what that guy did, and of course BRM is a business that will act in such a way that will protect what they have succesfully built over the time.
i agree with you b1gfoot, i think if poker sites see that brm is allowing people to post threads to trade cash to filter it out unfairly they won't want to offer the bonuses to brm in future. i think brm needs to decide what they want to do as otherwise it could become a problem on here. as it seems these threads are popping up quite alot now.
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Netherlands
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 95
everyone lost their mind? why ban when you can avoid ....
1 if you want to make player to player transfers ( as the administrator pointed out) face the consequences if you do engage in this risk of money loss or other illegal activities are always connected.
2 Be wise if you cant afford to lose money get your account closed or cant withdraw from a certain poker site then dont play dont make player to player transfers or find a pokersite where you can withdraw from,
its simple as that if anything goes wrong its your own mistake dont blame the site they arent saying its safe either i havent come across 1 forum that said so over the years (and ive been playing for 6 years dont mind my age)
the amazing thing is acctually jvd admitting the money is dirty and if you decide to engage in a transaction with him and something goes wrong its your own mistake if you made such choice
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1660
I can't think of a positive reason to keep them, but I can think of a negative reason to ban them: Admin will need to be extra vigilant and will have more threads to edit and lock. It's easier for them to just stay out of it, they didn't create the problem why should they have to solve it?
In an ideal world I say go for it but for ours, meh.
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Posted by Prohorse3: everyone lost their mind? why ban when you can avoid ....
1 if you want to make player to player transfers ( as the administrator pointed out) face the consequences if you do engage in this risk of money loss or other illegal activities are always connected.
2 Be wise if you cant afford to lose money get your account closed or cant withdraw from a certain poker site then dont play dont make player to player transfers or find a pokersite where you can withdraw from,
its simple as that if anything goes wrong its your own mistake dont blame the site they arent saying its safe either i havent come across 1 forum that said so over the years (and ive been playing for 6 years dont mind my age)
the amazing thing is acctually jvd admitting the money is dirty and if you decide to engage in a transaction with him and something goes wrong its your own mistake if you made such choice
So you guys are trying to say: well, he tried to make a scam but it doesnt matter. We want him to try again next time too... HE DID NOT SAD THAT THIS MONEY IS DIRTY WHEN HE OFFERED TRANSACTION 888to HP. He admited that earlier in tread thatdoesnt have anything with recent transactions offer! If he wanted people to know he would tell that loud and clear. 99% of people didnt notice that. I noticed that so I warned people about it. Now I feel sorry because, hey, its not my problem, acording to you guys I should of keep my mouth shut and wath how he scam people here. If you see someone tried to steal someones wallet would you give a warning to that guy and call police or you would say: I dont care, he must know if he carry wallet in his pocket he could be robbed...
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
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Posted by jovicakralj:
Posted by retribution: So wait a sec...after all the flame wars...you mean I was right about jvd1986 needing to be banned all along? Get outta town. Who woulda thought that an admitted botter would be a bad person to have around the forums. *roll eyes*
Im not speaking with you anymore. Youre not woth of getting banned. That was usefull tread and it still is. There was no reason to ban him then. He didnt do anything wrong. Now however there is. R U looking for some attention again?
Lol oh so I get it. You were totally his buddy and biggest defender, until he scammed you? Gee, lemme hide my shock while I say "I told you a piece of crap like him has no place in the forums".
It's just a matter of gauging someones charachter. If someone is an admitted botter, they basically are saying "I am a douchebag with no morals, don't ever trust me". Why would you want someone like that around? Logically it makes no sense, and him scamming people is exactly what I was talking about.
If a dog growls when you go to pet him, don't be suprised when he bites your hand if you keep trying.
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Posted by retribution: Lol oh so I get it. You were totally his buddy and biggest defender, until he scammed you? Gee, lemme hide my shock while I say "I told you a piece of crap like him has no place in the forums".
Once again you are showing to us how....hmmmm... silly(?) you are.. I was never defending that guy, I was defending that tread he made because it was usefull. Plus, I was mostly tired of YOU. Next thing, please when you reply to something make sure that you read previous posts. I was not scammed by him or by anyone. I was guy that asked him about that money (is it dirty) and told him that I dont want any transactions. i posted this because I didnt want somebody else to get scammed by him, now or later. You are obssesed with me? Or you trying to get some more attention again?
Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 66
Posted by jovicakralj:
Posted by Prohorse3: everyone lost their mind? why ban when you can avoid ....
1 if you want to make player to player transfers ( as the administrator pointed out) face the consequences if you do engage in this risk of money loss or other illegal activities are always connected.
2 Be wise if you cant afford to lose money get your account closed or cant withdraw from a certain poker site then dont play dont make player to player transfers or find a pokersite where you can withdraw from,
its simple as that if anything goes wrong its your own mistake dont blame the site they arent saying its safe either i havent come across 1 forum that said so over the years (and ive been playing for 6 years dont mind my age)
the amazing thing is acctually jvd admitting the money is dirty and if you decide to engage in a transaction with him and something goes wrong its your own mistake if you made such choice
So you guys are trying to say: well, he tried to make a scam but it doesnt matter. We want him to try again next time too... HE DID NOT SAD THAT THIS MONEY IS DIRTY WHEN HE OFFERED TRANSACTION 888to HP. He admited that earlier in tread thatdoesnt have anything with recent transactions offer! If he wanted people to know he would tell that loud and clear. 99% of people didnt notice that. I noticed that so I warned people about it. Now I feel sorry because, hey, its not my problem, acording to you guys I should of keep my mouth shut and wath how he scam people here. If you see someone tried to steal someones wallet would you give a warning to that guy and call police or you would say: I dont care, he must know if he carry wallet in his pocket he could be robbed...
no one cares because its you !! hahaha all you do is bitch and moan about 1 thing or another, YOU was the 1 who wanted to do chip trades/transfer , NO ONE forced you too, you knew the risks, RULES are put in place for a reason , and YOU tried to bend the rules, so YOU got ripped off, TUFF, ppl saying i cant withdraw my money for this reason or that reason , in my country i cant because blah blah blah, YOU was trying to get round the rules in some way, and YOU have nobody to blame but yourself , and what you on about with a wallet ?? sure you just like the sound of your own voice .................. and by the way , you want to buy some hp money?? put 50 euro in my bank account and i shall go get drunk