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hi

Anyone here plays Hyper/super turbo SNG? I guess if we can make a group to discuss strategy share ideas hands we can help us one to others and benefit all.

Post here if want to take part or give me a feedback on the idea.


     
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Its basicly ICM from start, wots more to discuss?

     
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I play hyper 6 max on stars sometimes,I really like the hyper format in general,but I dont like 6 max too much Sad
If you have general questions I'm always up for strat talk tho

     
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Hi guys!

Agree with doomy, basically Hyper-turbo SNG = ICM. I make some slight modifications depending on the structure and whether they are FR or SH, but are things so simple that with appropriate software and a bit of time, you can make it by yourself.

Remember, variance in Hyper-turbos is a f***** b****.

     
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i feel theres a lot to talk about.

Beside icm we can talk about ranges of OR/fold OR/Call AI from BS/SS, EV- theres a lot of spots in order to become better and get some extra ROI.

     
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Hi again.

OR. Hyper is a 'push or fold' play. Any other OR move is EV-. Ranges are given by ICM (i don´t like push anytwo in SB if hand is unopened with more than 5 bb. ICM usually says push anytwo with -10bb).

Call AI depends blind level and buyins (in micros we have a range of call eeeehm large in comparison with higher levels). Remember, low Ax is good to push but not to cal, in general.


     
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obv. i know thats not the same range pushin the same number of bbs agains bigstack or a shortstack

In a Ax on shoving it depends, if player calls tightly, he will be calling with aces better than yours, so if a player calls tightle, you should shove even lighter and avoid pushing Ax to pushing SC because they had better equity in avg to his calling range compared to Ax

What i mean is we should try to find spots where we can get an edge by minraising instead of pushing, inducing action, determine which kind of spots we can OR/fold fol less than 10bb etc...

BTW im looking for a coaching on this, but looks to expensive everywhere Big Smile

     
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In the end it's basically ICM that´s true but there are other things to keep an eye on as well.

Like Blinds.

Since the blinds will go up in such large increments, make sure you time them properly. If you can play a few hands quickly so you can pay the smaller blind before they move up, it will save you a lot of chips. On the other hand, if the blinds are going to go up before they get to you, make sure you play slower and have the blinds go up for the players before you to buy you some more time at the higher blind levels.


there are some good free content videos out there from guys like NuklearWintr or JacktheShipper, even on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4QXdrVxXo ---- NuklearWintr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003oCC7162s ---- JacktheShipper

     
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it looks like i get lucky.

I found a coach that coaches me for free. i will play 5000 SNG coached at the end of that, if i profit y should give to him 10% of the winnings of those 5000K SNG.

At least will be an oportunity to take a coaching without pay absurd hourly rates in advance, since if i dont profit while coached i will pay nothing.

Just waiting for his response in order to know when to start!

     
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sorry btu whats ICM?

     
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Posted by Jibberish:
sorry btu whats ICM?

notsureifserios.gif Agree
If serious: independant chip model (google it)

     
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i wasnt really sure tbh i never play SnG's unless im just donking around for a couple bucks

     
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Posted by Chartoule:
Hi again.

OR. Hyper is a 'push or fold' play. Any other OR move is EV-. Ranges are given by ICM (i don't like push anytwo in SB if hand is unopened with more than 5 bb. ICM usually says push anytwo with -10bb).

Call AI depends blind level and buyins (in micros we have a range of call eeeehm large in comparison with higher levels). Remember, low Ax is good to push but not to cal, in general.




Normal push or fold is much better, I think . Because need more instinct than hyper turbo.

I think hyper turbo just about luck.

     
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Hi again!!

Good luck with the coach, xdonkingx. It seems very good deal for you (and very EV - for the coach). Tell us how it goes, I've puzzled.


@Serpang. Hyperturbo has more variance than normal or turbo SNG, but has really more fish. No luck in there, imo.

Bye!!


     
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obviously its a great deal but its good for both parts.

i've to pay thw 20% (not10%) of the winnings of the 5000K SNG, if i profit at 4% ROI on 10$ SNG where i will be coached, ill be profiting 40$ every 100SNG which will be 2000$ of benefits on the 5K SNG ill had to pay him 400$ and i keep 1600$ of winnings.

As u see you still pay the same as if u pay in front, but in this case you only pay if you become winner, not like if you pay in front, where you can't get your money back if results sren't the expected ones

     
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