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I wish to get the reaction from this site including management here on were they stand on staking other players.
Most on here will know and except that staking other players is part and parcel in poker and not to be snubbed upon.
The only time things can go wrong is if staking is made between 2 players and the player who is staked renages on the transaction tottally or doesnt pay the agreed amount and an argument occurs.
So this is to all here including management why dont we set up an area were we will be able to discuss and arrange such transactions, I am sure that this would also be of interest to others out side the brm who will probably sign up here to become involved in this issue, along with the many other advantages gained from joining us.
The management at brm would take charge of all the staked tournaments given including the settlement of the agreement taken for a set min fee, should any cash be won then an amount after the buy in is returned to the guy who has staked would be paid to the management and the rest chopped 50/50 between the 2 people involved in the stake.
I am aware that any interest here from management would be if any financial gain is possible by looking after such a venture, with the interest from players and how many would have a go in this.
I am sure there is a market for this type of venture but it is only at a discussion stage at this point.
I know that these agreements are usually between know players ect, but who is to say that if I stake another player in the Sunday Million and he takes it down scooping $250,000 would that person whom I know well still chop the winnings with me, or just do a runner?
I am very sure that there are many on here who are capable of winning such tournaments, and this would be the goal to find out who and how to stake this type of player, it could be split say $215 buy in were a % of that stake is shared by say 10 members here @$21.50 per share, or if it proves that there are more than one player at brm we could have 2 or 3 players in the large tournaments.
This is only in discussion mode at present but it could be a good venture to become involved in for such a minor cost, with a good return for all involved including brm management.
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there are different sites for such stuff. Also,the majorty here plays freerolls or no deposits only,obviously these are "usually" not winning players,so someone with a brain wouldnt be interested in staking them anyway
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I am aware that sites do excist and do sell shares in many many players, it is also a good income for many profesional poker players also, and BeMyATMplz there are many exceptionally good players who do only play free bees and no deposit sites, if you read my post it did state that one of the aims was to find a player who would go deep in a big tournament, who would be a good bet to stake with offering shares at low prices, who the hell are you BeMyATMplz to post such rubbish, you have no idea at all if all are crap at poker on here, because they only play freebees and no deposits, you gain experience in all types of poker wether u buy in or use a free ride, you dont give a good wriite up of the players here, I am sure that there are many players on here who do play the free ride tournaments and do also play the buy ins also gaining better knowledge in that area also, you posted how you feel about it but your post has jack s**t towards the point I am trying to get to
Shouldnt you have posted that you only play freebees and no deposit sites and it is you who isnt worth staking.
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OK, calm down, first I have personally seen a fair few real good players via bankrollmob, some good players active in the forum, but most don't post.
I think its about time bankrollmob joined this market, I don't see why not, easy, constant money for them, perhaps we will get more real good players active, those who just can not afford to play the games they should be playing.
Obviously there would have to be rules, to which bankrollmob would have to look into, I feel anyone taking backing should have the money ready to play, backers hand money to BRM, once game is played BRM sends money to player, or player sends winnings to BRM for distribution, the simple way. And it would have to be user aware, but at lesat this way if player runs of with the winnings, BRM still have the BI to pay back.
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My suggestion to brm if it would be possible for brm to have say 5 or 6 live accounts on any sites that are chosen to have staked players, ie user name brm1, brm2 ect, the poker player staked would then use one of the brm user names which would belong to brm who would receive the buy ins from the peope wishing to have a share, the tournament buy in would come from brm, the player uses the allocated user name brm1 brm2 ect and all cashes would be paid directly into brm user names account, brm take there cost out and the buy ins are given back to the people having a share and the cash won that was left would be shared equally per share.
The accounts may be opened by management to get over the only1 account per person issue.
The only way this could work is by having an independant source involved and running the stakes from start to finish, all involved would then be 100% sure that there cash is safe.
This is just a suggestion and could be altered if and when I am sure others come up with there input to get this of the ground.
And yes I agree Bigfoot that it would be a great Idea to use the many excellant players here that we have and getting them involved, if these players are offered the buy ins for larger tournaments they could expand on there tournaments playing more bigger better tournaments and giving a massive interest for the people who have shares in this adventure.
Hey I am sure it could work to the benefit of all here.
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a staking and BAP section would be pretty cool buttttttt there would definity need to be some major rules to it because the majority of members would try to scam since it is kinda a poor mans site here
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Posted by simon6: I am aware that sites do excist and do sell shares in many many players, it is also a good income for many profesional poker players also, and BeMyATMplz there are many exceptionally good players who do only play free bees and no deposit sites, if you read my post it did state that one of the aims was to find a player who would go deep in a big tournament, who would be a good bet to stake with offering shares at low prices, who the hell are you BeMyATMplz to post such rubbish, you have no idea at all if all are crap at poker on here, because they only play freebees and no deposits, you gain experience in all types of poker wether u buy in or use a free ride, you dont give a good wriite up of the players here, I am sure that there are many players on here who do play the free ride tournaments and do also play the buy ins also gaining better knowledge in that area also, you posted how you feel about it but your post has jack s**t towards the point I am trying to get to
Shouldnt you have posted that you only play freebees and no deposit sites and it is you who isnt worth staking.
First,thanks for your kind words. 2nd,99% of people who play no deposits,freerolls only do so for a reason,because they are losing players and dont want to lose their own money. The other 1% are people that may be good but play solely for fun,and dont realize they lose value by not taking advantage of proper bonuses. 3rd,I dont need staking on here,in fact I'm sorted when it comes to staking,thanks for the information tho. 4th,you seem retarded. 5th,please look up my stats on sharkscope (BeMyATMplz on stars) and tell me where I play no deposits and freerolls only. Also please show me your stats so that you can show me how much of a balla you are. 6th,you do gain expirience in freerolls,but freerolls require you to adapt to a retarded style,which lowstake realmoney games still have,but way,way less retarded. 7th,you seem retarded (worth mentioning twice).
The whole point in my post was that whoever plays no deposit bonuses only,or freerolls only simply play those to not to lose their own money,which then means they are losing players cause if they were winning they shouldnt be afraid of depositing,because they will make more of it. Depositing gets you a bonus and eventually rakeback as well,which is worth much more than a no deposit bonus,or even grinding freerolls all day long,that's a fact. Sure there may be a handful exceptions of good players doing this,but they leave out lots of value moneywise,and the huge majorty would simply be huge losing players in realmoney games,otherwise they would deposit. Everyone should have $10 or whatever spare to start their roll.
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Firstly supernoob management said no way they were going to get involved with tranfers and the like transactions, staking players is the issue here which if managed right is a good earner/ income for many sites, my point is why is it not already in place here.
BeMyATMplz you have put me in the frame as a retard, you also wanted me to check your poker standing on pokerstars account with sharkscope. The rest isnt worth reading.
Now BeMyATMplz I have you down as some one on a night out on the town, and would want plenty of beer, a curry and a bloody good fight.
I wont be checking out your stats on scope, now you play on stars and ask me to check your poker stats on scope from stars when that site is the main poker site that has sent out warnings to stars players who use scope and sites that are similiar to scope for at least the last 4 years that they will have there accounts closed if they carry on.
Thats a good start to your credibility, it gets even worse when all you can spell is retard to slag others off, nice. I am sure you are proud of those stats for sure.
That is all on this issue with you at this time, should you carry on slagging me off and want a shouting match you will not win that one I can assure you of that.
I suggest that you think of what you are about to post before you do so.
You would I can assure you that if you had called me a retard on many other sites you would at least be warned about your attitude, posting is about writing some thing constructive and/or which is a point for discussion between others on this forum, I dont think I read any thing in the t and c here that says you will get points for calling some one a retard.
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Posted by simon6: Firstly supernoob management said no way they were going to get involved with tranfers and the like transactions, staking players is the issue here which if managed right is a good earner/ income for many sites, my point is why is it not already in place here.
BeMyATMplz you have put me in the frame as a retard, you also wanted me to check your poker standing on pokerstars account with sharkscope. The rest isnt worth reading.
Now BeMyATMplz I have you down as some one on a night out on the town, and would want plenty of beer, a curry and a bloody good fight.
I wont be checking out your stats on scope, now you play on stars and ask me to check your poker stats on scope from stars when that site is the main poker site that has sent out warnings to stars players who use scope and sites that are similiar to scope for at least the last 4 years that they will have there accounts closed if they carry on.
Thats a good start to your credibility, it gets even worse when all you can spell is retard to slag others off, nice. I am sure you are proud of those stats for sure.
That is all on this issue with you at this time, should you carry on slagging me off and want a shouting match you will not win that one I can assure you of that.
I suggest that you think of what you are about to post before you do so.
You would I can assure you that if you had called me a retard on many other sites you would at least be warned about your attitude, posting is about writing some thing constructive and/or which is a point for discussion between others on this forum, I dont think I read any thing in the t and c here that says you will get points for calling some one a retard.
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You said I posted rubbish while I had a completely legit point. That was your oppinion and so you posted it.
IMO your post shows you are a retard so I posted it as well. I dont see anything wrong with that.
Nice going off topic too,retard. I'm pretty sure you're a freeroll-only grinder who sucks.
The thing that sharkscope has warned players to use it is a rumor. No ones account had ever been closed for using sharkscope. Stars is aware that people are using it,so they allowed sharkscope to only show stats of people that opted in,unless they paid for their sharkscope account.
I'm sure you did check my stats,btw
Thats not the point tho,you say my post was rubbish,my post is the pure truth. This is about staking and freeroll players or whatever I threw in,your post consists of you telling me about sharkscope and what illegal stuff I apparently do,I wonder who's more "credible" based on that logic. Please show me even a handful winning players who have had good success in the past and still bother to only play $50 or whatever freerolls. If you can find me a handful of those players you should be admired for your researching skills
Edited by BeMyATMplz (29 November 2011 @ 14:41 GMT)
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stfup had enough of your posts they dont have an ending never mind a start ur the biggerst retard I have come across in my life, if brm allow u to use retard then I will also use it to a piece of crap like u.
What planet are u on planet retard ffs you can kiss my arse end off super retard in womens clothing
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All I'm gonna say is,you're either an underaged loser (thats what I suspect) or you really are 58 and they just let you out of the psychical hospital (in case this is true,you should be brought back into it) You choose
