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  1-Dec-11, 12:07   #1
Bodog goes Anonymous 0 
SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
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Bodog Poker has released a new update yest making it the only "all anonymous" poker site.

all screen-names/avatars have been removed and when playing people will get a number for cash game/tournament.

HUDs are obv out of equation but you cant even take notes on your opponents now as that feature has also been removed.

result -
regs will leave site.
colluders and chip-dumpers will find it easier now.

     
  1-Dec-11, 12:51   #2
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Davoodoo 

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But will this affect ALL tables ?

     
  1-Dec-11, 13:10   #3
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by Davoodoo:

But will this affect ALL tables ?

yes all cash, sng, tournaments. everything.

     
  1-Dec-11, 15:44   #4
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B1gfoot 

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This IMO is how it should be.
I say bravo bodog for making the move, I can see ups and downs to it.
If the regs start to leave it proves that they are only there due to unfair advantage, there game is not as good as they think it is, without HUDs, data mined hands etc, than they fall apart.

     
  1-Dec-11, 15:51   #5
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
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Yes there is the possibility that some regulars may leave.
There are many who take serious the notes they have on players, plus paying cash for stats with the well known sites.
Microgaming has Anonymous tables too. Not all of them
I woder if they gave it some real thought going that road Smile

     
  1-Dec-11, 15:55   #6
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LoGiX 
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This doesn't make colliders and chip dumpers life easier in my opinion, Bodog still keeps the players id so they will still be punished if players report them.

I like the idea of making players equal towards tracking and poker software, but I would at least leave the option to take notes (even for only 1 session) as this is skill only.

     
  1-Dec-11, 15:58   #7
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Arithmajik 

Joined: Feb '11
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Gotta admit that move excites me! So far I haven't used any software, Hud's, etc. and have been mildly profitable (Still tons of leaks to fix). I would be interested to track my ROI at Bodog and compare it to other sites I've played and see if other players potentially not having that edge improves me indirectly.

Any guess on what the difference may be if any?

     
  1-Dec-11, 16:18   #8
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by LoGiX:
This doesn't make colliders and chip dumpers life easier in my opinion, Bodog still keeps the players id so they will still be punished if players report them.

yes it does
the reason many colluders get detected by players is that they are most of the time found playing with same group of players.
it's hard to find colluders based on 1 sng / session.

     
  1-Dec-11, 17:48   #9
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B1gfoot 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by LoGiX:
This doesn't make colliders and chip dumpers life easier in my opinion, Bodog still keeps the players id so they will still be punished if players report them.

yes it does
the reason many colluders get detected by players is that they are most of the time found playing with same group of players.
it's hard to find colluders based on 1 sng / session.

I guess this applies to some other sites then, such as Party Poker and Cake, as you can change your name as and when you like(almost)
Player notes is not a problem as anyone can open up the likes of notepad.
I feel this will be a rake monster for them as play will go a little more conservative.

     
  1-Dec-11, 18:13   #10
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by B1gfoot:
I guess this applies to some other sites then, such as Party Poker and Cake, as you can change your name as and when you like(almost)

yes sure, in fact on small networks with multiple skins. player can create accounts on many skins and use them one by one while colluding decreasing chances of getting caught.
cheaters always find a way lol

Posted by B1gfoot:
Player notes is not a problem as anyone can open up the likes of notepad.

yeah but you will have notes for 1 session only.

cake allows name change every 7 days. if you take notes on some player they'll remain even if he/she changes username regularly.
only thing it helps to take care of is HUD/ tracker.

     
  1-Dec-11, 20:30   #11
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
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In my opinion, with this decision, they have digged their own grave. Thanks to give me reasons why I shouldn't play there.

     
  1-Dec-11, 22:11   #12
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jovicakralj 

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Only one word:

RETARDED

     
  2-Dec-11, 08:31   #13
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retribution 

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This is probably the most ridiculous idea ever. I understand they want to level the playing field,but that's taking it too far. Not even being able to take notes on a player is absolutely absurd, and as already stated, this just encourages sketchy behavior like collusion and chip dumping.

Maybe secretly Bodog WANTS to fail, because this seems like the best way to do that.

     
  2-Dec-11, 18:47   #14
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Arithmajik 

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It will be interesting to see what happens. You make good points about collusion especially. I expected that they would've likely had their software search for people playing together. Also Maybe you can't search for temp player ID's making it difficult to find out where your friends are playing. If the table names aren't available for you to search by you'd have to open each table and manually search for your buddies number.

     
  2-Dec-11, 23:16   #15
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opnded32 
Joined: Mar '11
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i found the anonymous tables to b more fun and more profitable been playin bodog 4 a long time and certain players always have had my number. since the new software either im running real well or taking away hud's and other software has hurt other players decision making. the only bad thing i can c is i am friends with a lot of regs there at bodog and won't b able to talk smack anymore.ppl from all over the country taht iv'e met on bodog and have met up with a few in vegas guess i won't c or hear from them anymore

     
  3-Dec-11, 03:06   #16
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devitt11 
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well said jovi!!!

     
  3-Dec-11, 03:43   #17
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LoGiX 
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by LoGiX:
This doesn't make colliders and chip dumpers life easier in my opinion, Bodog still keeps the players id so they will still be punished if players report them.

yes it does
the reason many colluders get detected by players is that they are most of the time found playing with same group of players.
it's hard to find colluders based on 1 sng / session.


Ah, yeah, in this point of view you are right. I don't know if collusion is made that often though ? Poker rooms have softwares to detect most of the suspect behaviour... unless they are just bluffing and have a shitty software.

     
  3-Dec-11, 05:14   #18
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by LoGiX:
Ah, yeah, in this point of view you are right. I don't know if collusion is made that often though ? Poker rooms have softwares to detect most of the suspect behaviour... unless they are just bluffing and have a shitty software.

sadly collusion is common thing
i have reported few people myself.
and dont think their softwares are good enough in this case, thing is it's hard to prove collusion in many cases.

old news but google - "pokerstars don collusion"

     
  3-Dec-11, 12:46   #19
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Setera 
Joined: May '11
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Hit & run just became more popular and harder to play against

     
  3-Dec-11, 23:55   #20
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Arithmajik 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1655
What is a hit and run? Is that when you try to double up and then leave a table? If so, people seeing my username wouldn't discourage me from doing that. I used t do it a lot in the early stages of my bank roll building. I'm shameless. Plus I don't see why that's so detestable, once you've lost the money, it's gone! Doesn't matter if the guy sticks around to run it in your face.

     
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