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Posted by Serpang: Thanks for your good intention Micro, what game are you recommend? , If I feel confidence why not ? Do you know jakehint , nickname at Felt or Hero ? Good luck in 125K ,poker maximus and golden apples. Look how good you are in MTT. Why play cash ? miis it ? ok, but don't lose control
No, i haven't seen that name before. I actually never qualified for this weeks 125k. I lasted 25 minutes into the qualifier and then was busted hard bluffing. I don't know really what your selection of games is like when you play. Id just suggest playing 25 and 50 cent mtt's. Hopefully you can pull in one deep run and then you will have enough to safely play the 1$ deepstack games where you can repeat the process for better games. Really the goal is to always be able to play games. Then you always have a chance. So no real restrictions but id like for you to have the best chance possible.
I wont defend playing cash at all it was just something i wanted to do, i did it. It's done and im sure it will be even harder for me now to justify playing those stakes. I obviously wished things turned out differently but its experience all the same.
My friend told me last night when i had people over to watch the game, cash games are weird. You never feel half as good about winning on them as you feel bad about losing on them... or something like that. I understand what he means and it is true. In MTT's it feels incredible to turn 1$ buy-in into 60$ let alone 400$ or 600$ off one single game. I dont even like playing sng's unless they are 45 players anymore because the accomplishment doesnt seem as nice though a win should be a win right?
------------ if you were gonna just play those games i suggest maybe start a blog for us to share in your glory!!! Id love to hear about any success or bad beats. Plus it helps me alot to hear ur encouragement and suggestions. I swear it was the blog that made me play so good at first. Having something to prove to yourself and putting ur goals in writing is all part of "the secret" i think.
------------ Just finished playing the 500$ Golden Apples Freeroll. The game was well played and i was lucky enough to ship it. I was pretty fortunate to hold in some of my spots as i was 60-40 more then twice. First place was a cool 200$ although with a playthrough. Which means i can play it all but i cant withdraw any of it until i play at least that amount of buy-ins i believe.
It had only 27 players when it started and considering it paid top 7 i liked my chances. I recorded the game and ill be uploading the video later tonight after my session.
The Poker Maximus is just going now and after i eat some grub ill be recording it as well. Around 3500 entrants with a gte of 15k
Edited by MicroMachina (04 March 2012 @ 20:22 GMT)
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Wow, Thanks Micro . I already receive it when I log in at Hero. I don't know how to send message to you ,even I saw you play Horse and Frenzy. I will follow your advise, make blog and play at game you recommended, make video and ask advise from you and other mobster. Hope my skill and bankroll get improvement
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i saw chopoff log in. You were watching when i shipped K10 into AQ and hit trip tens on the river? I bought in after you logged in and tried to make some fast chips. I just went out in the game on a poor play by me. 55 vs jj.
I dont think you can send messages online. the blank text area is for notes.
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Yes, I saw 55 vs JJ. Interesting for discuss, I think (though this is old case). I ever had same experience,lol.And remember other thread at this forum ( I forgot his name ) his hand 66 and at the villain position?
1. Why you raised to Pot ? Did you have feeling ? or very tired ? r you play small pair like that ? 2. After villain reraised, why you still call ( all in your chips )? - r you follow your 1st feeling,consistent?
would you give answer step by step ,Micro ? it is not examination for you , I am not qualify , honestly and every1 know . Just compare our opinion/idea. I will give comment after know your answer. I don't want my comment affect to your answer/analysis. hope you will tell better way to discuss.
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No good answer. It was a hand i shouldnt have raised with. More importantly once i got reraised i should have folded. The only reason i did call was because the range the villain had shown there was really wide. Regardless of that i still was making a big gamble with 55 and my fate was all but sealed once he turned over JJ.
What would i do differently? Fold preflop. So there is really nothing i can say other then i played the hand poorly.
I guess the reason i chose to raise pot pre was to give my 55 the best chance of raking the pot uncontested. If any thing you should treat that as a way to not play 55.
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I just want to compare with theory first ( super system - Doyle Brunson ), limp in with medium or small pair and fold if raised or hit nothing on flop and get big bet. Look like he right, isn't he ? ( in generally)
In your case, your chip 50K, BB 2k/4k, so around 12BB, in red zone - just fold or push. Depend on feeling. You raised to pot, indicate you hesitate. No have enough chips to trial, so you have to fold (my stupid opinion ) this is process before click bet/ make decision.
Final result we had the same Why with my analysis ? need your advise.
------------ LOL Micro, I want to send my video for my blog. But I couldn't compress it and send. Even I couldn't copy and send my hand history. Please teach me if you have time
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Posted by Serpang: I just want to compare with theory first ( super system - Doyle Brunson ), limp in with medium or small pair and fold if raised or hit nothing on flop and get big bet. Look like he right, isn't he ? ( in generally)
In your case, your chip 50K, BB 2k/4k, so around 12BB, in red zone - just fold or push. Depend on feeling. You raised to pot, indicate you hesitate. No have enough chips to trial, so you have to fold (my stupid opinion ) this is process before click bet/ make decision.
Final result we had the same Why with my analysis ? need your advise.
Great discussion. Okay ill always defer to Doyle when it comes to poker but since the hand is already played ill give my reasons for my actions. It really comes down to a flawed process breaking down badly. I chose to raise to 10240 or something because i figured i could outright take the pot. I agree raising allin is standard in that spot but i personally found in these games so long as you are in the game you have a shot because blinds are so high. So thats personal experience only that in that game in that spot 40k or 50k isnt much of a difference. I had fully intended to fold to any aggression but again another personal opinion came up. The villan who dove allin there had shown very poor hand selection when he did dive allin to raises but was coming out ahead. So where i should have folded i now considered i may not be as crushed as i thought i would be. He could be holding A234, very unlikely sure but ive seen it before and i really gave him 0% of having a pp. I figured him for a player that tried to max value big hands so him flat calling me would have been more alarming to me likely. As you can see my mind was just trying to justify calling him there. If i stuck to my guns and just folded the reraise i still love my chances in the game.
So this is why i said it was all bad. Had i folded preflop or folded to any aggression after my raise like my plan said. I would have been okay albeit a bit shorter. Its a textbook case of why playing a hand like that makes your work much harder.
I make alot of plays based on my poker gut. As for why i wouldnt go allin there? i dont like handing them out to any player with a hand like JJ there lol. I think of early position like running the gauntlet. In micro games going allin is weird. Where you could lock yourself into a showdown with zero chance to win with the worst hand. Playing post flop allows for more room to manouvre.
------------ LOL Micro, I want to send my video for my blog. But I couldn't compress it and send. Even I couldn't copy and send my hand history. Please teach me if you have time
yeah u need to do a few things. brm wont allow an attachment as big as a video im sure of it. Make a youtube account and upload your video to there. then copy and paste the link on ur blog and we can take it from there.
Some nice chap listed merges hand history converter in my blog around page 5 maybe. If you use that then you can post ur hands in text on ur blog.
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Posted by MicroMachina: Seems all is well now
Yes, also my video. I stiil need a way to post hand history .Allanmc coverter working well just for myself check, but I couldn't copy. Could you Micro ? Did you know what IslandJack with world pad? i didn't find it at my computer. When I stopped play, you are in. Good luck
------------ Game #50640078-95: $1,000 Guaranteed Deepstack Turbo Freezeout - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 800.00/1600.00 Seat #0: mjamarine, $70435.00 Seat #1: MicroMachina, $4233.00 Seat #2: AsckvendeTTa, $11654.00 Seat #3: SweetNat123 (D), $39471.00 Seat #4: aBikeReg (SB), $17708.00 Seat #6: dream3429 (BB), $17136.00 Seat #7: Ridgeline777, $25464.00 Seat #8: bowser125, $43214.00 *** Blinds *** aBikeReg posts the small blind of 800.00 dream3429 posts the big blind of 1600.00 *** Pre-Flop *** MicroMachina got hole cards [ A :clu: J :clu: ] Ridgeline777 folds bowser125 raises with 4240.00 mjamarine folds MicroMachina goes all-in with 4233.00 AsckvendeTTa folds SweetNat123 calls 4240.00 aBikeReg folds dream3429 folds *** Flop *** Pot: 15113 [ A :dia: K :hea: Q :spade: ] bowser125 bets 4800.00 SweetNat123 folds MicroMachina shows [ A :clu: J :clu: ] bowser125 shows [ A :hea: Q :dia: ] *** Turn *** Pot: 19913 [ A :dia: K :hea: Q :spade: ] [ 5 :dia: ] *** River *** Pot: 19913 [ A :dia: K :hea: Q :spade: ] [ 5 :dia: ] [ 4 :dia: ] MicroMachina is out bowser125 wins 16379.00 bowser125 wins 4814.00
------------ Works well for me. You need to go to the link, select choose file and it should be in c:/programfiles/heropoker/history/chopoff
From there you select a day like 20120306 as in the case above and then select the game u want. Once you have selected the desired day you can thru select the exact hand from the hand# field.
For the above example i chose the last hand of the game.
Edited by MicroMachina (07 March 2012 @ 17:22 GMT)
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im sure u could with alot of time and effort. To be honest most people dont feel the need to see every hand. Mostly the key ones. Making a video is the best way to show a full game. If i could figure out how to speed up some parts it would be even better.
Here is the video i made for you. part 1 ne ways. This is a 50 min video and only 98mb's i believe. Im uploading part 2 later today and will link it here. Sadly this has no commentary i believe.
------------ So i got a bit crazy last night and used some tickets to play in a 11$ 1r1a 5k nlhe mtt. I was breaking necks and cashing checks the whole game until this happened.
Game #50748481-110: $5,000 Guaranteed Turbo - 1 Rebuy %2F 1 Addon - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 600.00/1200.00 Seat #0: guttaville88 (SB), $14127.00 Seat #1: trickerer (BB), $17221.00 Seat #2: zatikyany21, $24479.00 Seat #3: TrimSpaBaby, $27771.00 Seat #4: MicroMachina, $21846.00 Seat #5: Rdsknfn, $20569.00 Seat #6: IamZac, $55220.00 Seat #8: hollisterb22sManObv (D), $12664.00 *** Blinds *** guttaville88 posts the small blind of 600.00 trickerer posts the big blind of 1200.00 *** Pre-Flop *** MicroMachina got hole cards [ A :spade: K :dia: ] zatikyany21 folds TrimSpaBaby folds MicroMachina raises with 3100.00 Rdsknfn folds IamZac raises with 26626.00 hollisterb22sManObv folds guttaville88 folds trickerer folds MicroMachina goes all-in with 18746.00 MicroMachina shows [ A :spade: K :dia: ] IamZac shows [ J :dia: A :dia: ] *** Flop *** Pot: 50272 [ 5 :hea: A :hea: Q :spade: ] *** Turn *** Pot: 50272 [ 5 :hea: A :hea: Q :spade: ] [ J :hea: ] *** River *** Pot: 50272 [ 5 :hea: A :hea: Q :spade: ] [ J :hea: ] [ 7 :clu: ] MicroMachina is out IamZac wins 46452.00 IamZac wins 4780.00
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Thanks for video, Micro. Hand above, I saw you play yesterday ( around 19:00 server time ) and finally my hand at my blog, it 's describe we in bad luck time. Just play good card didn't help, right ? so why ? give up is not good way, I am sure. that's what I looking for. I ask you complete video is for that, how you handle situation like that? I saw we have chance to get prize, in bad luck condition usually our winning card is crap card or trouble maker hand , like 83, j5, Q2, K10,QJ, Q10 etc. So how we played it ? I ever saw WSOP video, someone call all in with 10 5, he said : yes, my card is boy and girl but if I win I will have chance to survive ( he had poor stake though not lowest, and hard to survive since he had card dead for a long time ), Finally he won that hand. What's lesson we get ? let's discuss next
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Today i ran super deep in most of my games. The last 5 deep runs ive had in tournies have ended in such a disgusting manner i hate even recalling them. For example, one again 600/1200 blinds im sitting with 40k. Moron with -80roi and 7k in prizes but 0 profit has 70k and has been playing like a complete jackass the whole time. I pick up QQ utg. I open again to 3200 ish and he reraises to 7k. a short stack calls before it gets back to me. I call and feel good about my hand. Flop comes 972. I bet half pot and the perenial loser dives instantly. I think about it and go over his recent hands and feel i have to call. I know im ahead i just would hate to see AK in that spot. So i call and the pot is over 80k and my 40k was already final table chips. Donkzilla turns over fucking 88 and wouldnt u know it a motherfucking 8 comes right on the turn. Of course he tosses in a emote knockout... ffs. Then im sitting in two poker max games and holding. First break ends in the 1$ rebuy and i have 90k in chips. 90K puts has me positioned well until i lead out against an utg limper who rebought about 50 times gteed and now sits with the 30k addon and 1600 chips for 31600. The limper reraises my pot bet allin and i call with QQ. 10 fckn 7 and binks me for half my stack. Rolllllllllllllllll. Then the piece de resistance. In the third hour of the 11$ rebuy max game and sitting with 20k i get AK in bb. folds to small blind and he pops the blinds 2.5x. I smooth call him and the flop comes jj3. he cbets and i flat him again. turn comes Q and he checks. i bet a 2/3 pot sized bet and he calls. River is a 2. i lead out again for 1/2 pot sized bet leaving me 5k behind. This guy calls me down with 73. No wait. he tried to steal with 73 and then regardless of how i showed strength and played the hand he musters up the call which left him with 3k if he lost. Best part is he typed. Wow thought for sure i was gonna lose it..... Like cmon mang. Just a typical story for a typical day. Getting cooled off by guys who then go out less then 5 hands later. It wouldnt hurt at all if the players were outplaying me. I actually look forward to going in behind because then whats the worse that can happen right? i lose? hurts alot less then going in dominating them and then losing to runner runner all day long. Some hands shouldnt even be in the pot and yet there they are. Its not odds either. Simply put 99.9999% of the hands being played have no place in the hand. guys limping utg with 86 suited.... then i know they are doing it so i max value with my AQ and then it comes AQ6 with them getting a flush draw and then they push me allin on the draw. im not pressuring them im just playing it standard. They shove me into an allin and instead of them hitting a flush they hit a river 6 instead....
Id post hand histories but ive already invested enough in those loses that having to load up memories of numerous 5%ers is sickening. Coolers make me sooooooo angry.
Plus i have buddies who watch me play and they just call me up and say "wow, that guy is like 5k underwater and he totally donked you out" and im like yup.
The worst part is i feel some players who dont have easy access to their money just treat it like imaginary land where nothing matters. Sure they may love swiping plastic every week to play games they can't afford but i do not.
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I could say nothing, Micro. Three days later I got the same ( yesterday I didn't play ). Looks like irresolvable problem, right ? To whom we have to learn ? Any poker book analysis about that ? Please share mobster.
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Posted by doomdy: I luv your rant, great stuff
:s heh best to let it out i say.
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Posted by Serpang: I could say nothing, Micro. Three days later I got the same ( yesterday I didn't play ). Looks like irresolvable problem, right ? To whom we have to learn ? Any poker book analysis about that ? Please share mobster.
------------ Take a look, Micro.
yup, sounds about right. it really really sucks serpang but keep putting it in good and allegedly things work out long term. How that helps us now is all we can do is maintain composure and keep playing our game. You start playing AA differently and then all the hounds chase ya. You played it right imo just very unlucky.
Im going to focus on making a couple poker move videos. Some tactics i use to amass chips in hands i have no chance to win and therefore allowing me to survive bad beats at a later time.
here is part 2 of my video i made of micro mtt play.
i saw chopoff log in. You were watching when i shipped K10 into AQ and hit trip tens on the river? I bought in after you logged in and tried to make some fast chips. I just went out in the game on a poor play by me. 55 vs jj.
, honestly and every1 know 
. Actually final is very interesting HU, I start as underdog 
