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Joined: Mar '09
Location: United Kingdom
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Subject: Poker has reported that Full Tilt Poker and Groupe Bernard Tapie (GBT) have executed an agreement which will enable the United States DOJ to receive Full Tilt's assets and in turn sell them to GBT for the previously agreed upon $80 million.
A majority vote of Full Tilt ownership was necessary to execute this step, and it was received. In the case that any current owners maintain ownership in a reopened company, their shares will not come with voting privileges, and thus those owners would have no actual managerial control over the company.
Laurent Tapie is currently in Dublin, and he has allegedly been speaking with employees about the future of the company.
Full Tilt Poker's assets will need to be transfered to the United States Department of Justice in order for GBT to take control over them.
P***********y is attempting to verify the details of this story and is currently in contact with the parties involved. This page will be updated as we receive additional information.
------------ Please explain why you voted what you did
Edited by gazza2009 (15 December 2011 @ 22:30 GMT)
I voted yes presuming this news is true and presuming all the players would get their money back. Because most of players rly liked that site, software and their promotions/inovations i think a big chunk of them would go back to it. Especially if some big pros stay there. Another reason cause everything Tapie touches turns into gold.
Even if they give me my money back, I wouldn't trust the site.. Sorry, but what they've done is unforgivable, and they've betrayed millions of people.
After Absolute and Ultimate, poker got a bad name, and it was FTP that actually seemed to restore alot of the faith people lost, and then they go and do this...
As far as I am concerned I won't be depositing another cent there, and they can keep the small amount I'd built up.. I want nothing to do with them.
Oh and Lederer and Ferguson should be jailed for their part in it... robbing bastards..
It's very probable that FTP will return, but it will not be the same. Even if the site ran without the fraud, theft, embezzlement, Doj siezures, etc, etc, the company was still a poor business model and was bleeding out money.
When GBT relaunches the site, I expect to see many structural changes with such things as rake, bonus offers, Generated points and tournament prize pools. Most of these will changed to ensue that the company generates real revenue. Therefore, the players rewards will be greatly diminished.
The site will definantly offer a kick ass welcome back promo the entice players back to the site.
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Netherlands
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 12
i voted no, i have played as dutch player on FUlltiltpoker, and stil have a bankroll there, however still cant withdraw my money there, and iam not alone in that matter.
How many emails we send, i cant even count any more, so i gave up and so are many of my dutch friends that had played there, we al lost faith in the "restart"of the old days.....
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
Posted by fcumred: Even if they give me my money back, I wouldn't trust the site.. Sorry, but what they've done is unforgivable, and they've betrayed millions of people.
After Absolute and Ultimate, poker got a bad name, and it was FTP that actually seemed to restore alot of the faith people lost, and then they go and do this...
As far as I am concerned I won't be depositing another cent there, and they can keep the small amount I'd built up.. I want nothing to do with them.
Oh and Lederer and Ferguson should be jailed for their part in it... robbing bastards..
its just like getting a slap in your face and then turn the other cheek. enough other pokerrooms out there..
Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 3871
Posted by T3ddyKGB:
Posted by fcumred: Even if they give me my money back, I wouldn't trust the site.. Sorry, but what they've done is unforgivable, and they've betrayed millions of people.
After Absolute and Ultimate, poker got a bad name, and it was FTP that actually seemed to restore alot of the faith people lost, and then they go and do this...
As far as I am concerned I won't be depositing another cent there, and they can keep the small amount I'd built up.. I want nothing to do with them.
Oh and Lederer and Ferguson should be jailed for their part in it... robbing bastards..
its just like getting a slap in your face and then turn the other cheek. enough other pokerrooms out there..
anyway if they will refund my money back I will risk another slap .... maybe I'm a kind of masochist
my vote goes to dont give a flying fook, but its not in the list,
my money is lost forever and so is other peoples money, like i said dont give a flying fook, end of........... ive moved on, too much talk and no action same crap about full tilt in the news , just forget about it, and never play there again if they ever open up again, they cheated all there players and lost all respect.................
they can keep my money honestly ive had enough of the bull s**t, in the long run they have lost there customers for good, and if you go back playing there after all the shhit they have done , your a idiot asking to get fooked over again, ask this question to your self would you go back to a x girlfriend of boyfriend knowing they cheated on you and knowing what there like??? answer NO ...................you wouldnt so why go back to full tilt...
Posted by magatt966: anyway if they will refund my money back I will risk another slap .... maybe I'm a kind of masochist
lol ... I'm sure I won't put my money in their hands anymore ...
Posted by Chartoule: For spanish players, like me, FTP has requested license for Spain.
I almost see my 8000$ (and my thousands of medalls my black card bonuses and my FTPs and my IM bonus?)
I didn't know they requested the license for Spain. These are good news for us even though I am not going to trust in them again. Oops! $8000!!! So much money ... I have some money waiting for me as well but not so much. I hope they can give us back soon.
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Spain
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 2851
Posted by B1gfoot: I don't think it will take to long before it makes the No.2 spot. Of cause I will play there, in my opinion by far the best software going.
Think of the site like a pub, the name stays the same but the landlord changes, its the owners who had the bad reputation not the platform.
Finally ! Someone who is making sense in these comments !
I really don´t understand how most people don´t seem to get ths simple concept.
"The previous Crooks are gone when they re-open!"
It´s just the "Software" they are re-launching with "different" management. How come nobody gets this?
If you trust Party or Gutshot or whatever, you know just as much about these guys as the people that will take over Full Tilt. They could ALL be crooks or they could not. It´s ALL the same!
Not trusting a "software platform" is a ridiculous concept in and of itself, and everyone seems to react "emotionally" to the "name" Full Tilt.
Get a grip people.
FT will definitely be No. 2 in no time flat. There is no reason for it not to be if the players get there money back and "other Management" is now running the company.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
I believe that FT has all that is needed to get back to how it was before Black Friday. Everyone who’s an online poker player has once heard about FT, if not even having an account there. That means a lot. This case has worked as free marketing and now that the end is coming, in the best possible way, this can only work as another positive factor for things to work out well for FT. At least in the beginning: of course that the team behind the new FT will have to work very well to keep users satisfied, they will have to create new campaigns, they need to have a good background fund that is able to support quick transfers, this also probably means a new team of online supporters that need to receive background information in advance… there’s a lot to do, but it’s possible and the hardest part has just passed.
Joined: Aug '09
Location: Canada
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 147
i dont see why not its going to be owned by new and diffrent people,they will be the safest on line site out there when they come back,plus they will be offering the best on line bonus ever,,maybe the other sites should be listening like pokerstars that never offer there players SH-T but players keep playing there,,its like the more players that play there the least they offer,,WELCOME BACK FULLTILT
Posted by B1gfoot: I don't think it will take to long before it makes the No.2 spot. Of cause I will play there, in my opinion by far the best software going.
Think of the site like a pub, the name stays the same but the landlord changes, its the owners who had the bad reputation not the platform.
Finally ! Someone who is making sense in these comments !
I really don't understand how most people don't seem to get ths simple concept.
"The previous Crooks are gone when they re-open!"
It's just the "Software" they are re-launching with "different" management. How come nobody gets this?
If you trust Party or Gutshot or whatever, you know just as much about these guys as the people that will take over Full Tilt. They could ALL be crooks or they could not. It's ALL the same!
Not trusting a "software platform" is a ridiculous concept in and of itself, and everyone seems to react "emotionally" to the "name" Full Tilt.
Get a grip people.
FT will definitely be No. 2 in no time flat. There is no reason for it not to be if the players get there money back and "other Management" is now running the company.
TAINTED name come to mind, lost its rep no matter who takes control of the site,
where your money now as well been over 4 months, no email of them ..............
Joined: Mar '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (M)
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Posted by B1gfoot: I don't think it will take to long before it makes the No.2 spot. Of cause I will play there, in my opinion by far the best software going.
Think of the site like a pub, the name stays the same but the landlord changes, its the owners who had the bad reputation not the platform.
Agree with this i will move back their when its back
Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 3361
I really don't know how to vote since I've I attempted to collect my BR for several months now and just recently joined another poker site. I haven't been around lately and was offended for some time due to the nature of the whole Black Friday deal. I hope to see some clarity and validity if and when FT addresses their issues with the whole scandal.
My apologies for not visiting BRM in such a long time, but it's hard to accept what the U.S. did to the people who just like to play the game of poker whetehr they (the U.S. Gov.) were getting their slice of the pie. Sorry! I'll always feel that's what it boils down to. As for my BR! The U.S. took it, not FT. Glad to be visiting and reading in the BRM forum again. God Bless you all and Merry Christmas!
------------ Good to see your still the same doz01! You know I fooked up by not visiting BRM for the last 4 months. This site still rocks and I played an uptight baby after losing my BR at FT. Just good to read in BRM and see the Mobsters are still hanging tuff and here to stay. Good luck to you all and hope to see you on the felts some day.
Edited by Greenmohave (17 December 2011 @ 17:36 GMT)
