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Posted by mishu2009: I think a big problem is KK, because if in the flop show an A u dont know if the opponent have an A, but most of the time they hae. And another problem i think is AA>maybe most of all u think is the better hand u have, but i dont think so.Why? Because if u have AA maybe u raise to much and everybodey folds, maybe u raise just a little and a lots of people calls and then u have problems, even if u raise corectly, u can still loose, cause from any flop cames without an A u have problems.I lost too many times with AA and i played a lost of theese hands and played all kind of raises, even all in and get called with 7 2 and lost....
1. For KK. If flop shows Axx cut the action. I don't see the trouble. 2. AA is easy (as any premium). The only difficult is know when you must fold postflop.
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Posted by Chartoule:
Posted by mishu2009: I think a big problem is KK, because if in the flop show an A u dont know if the opponent have an A, but most of the time they hae. And another problem i think is AA>maybe most of all u think is the better hand u have, but i dont think so.Why? Because if u have AA maybe u raise to much and everybodey folds, maybe u raise just a little and a lots of people calls and then u have problems, even if u raise corectly, u can still loose, cause from any flop cames without an A u have problems.I lost too many times with AA and i played a lost of theese hands and played all kind of raises, even all in and get called with 7 2 and lost....
1. For KK. If flop shows Axx cut the action. I don't see the trouble. 2. AA is easy (as any premium). The only difficult is know when you must fold postflop.
u didnt understand with AA, is hard because u want to take a lot of chips when u have theese cards, but if u raise to much maybe all will fold, if u raise 4 times maybe u get called and can loose and as u said is very difficult when u should fold, here is the problem. But in some tourneyos, freeroll or small buy in, may peoples make all in with everything kind of cards, and u can loose with AA against unplayble cards.
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jj is the neverwin of pokr hands for me. depending on who im raising into the rest all play themselves. jj always comes down to should i or shouldnt i.
want to trap not get trapped with these drawing hands...more inclined to lay down these hands when they hit...looking to hit the draw by the turn. When missin the draw and hittin hole cards...lookin to lose the min here in this spot. Toughest spot for me is missin the draw on the flop and hittiin 2pr, now drawing to a boat....now what?...really need to know the math in these spots...losing the min isn't always cheap. Play these types of hands in FL type games...in NL cash games not too often.
Edited by rbdflyboy (03 February 2012 @ 19:35 GMT)
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This is a good thread. It all makes sence to, there is a few of these that I hadn't really thought of before. Like the Jack - 8. I almost always fold this bad boy pre flop regardless of position, I've never really felt the desire to play it. Am I missing out?
