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  22-Feb-12, 16:35   #61
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by aatje:
No need to improve my game i know it by now..


Well there's you're problem right there. Not even a top flight pro would be so arrogant as to think his game needs no improvement.

     
  22-Feb-12, 23:40   #62
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 36 (M)
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Posted by aatje:
No need to improve my game i know it by now..


With an attitude like that, I just can't understand why you're having a problem at all!

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Posted by zeroster:
Posted by aatje:
No need to improve my game i know it by now..


Well there's you're problem right there. Not even a top flight pro would be so arrogant as to think his game needs no improvement.


PMSL ! I hadn't seen this yet when I quoted the same thing.. They always give it up in the end. There it is. I have quotes from pro's saying that if they play the live circuit for even a few months, by the time they come online again the game has evolved so much they have to completely alter their style.

But not aatje, she got it all figured out, forever!

     
  23-Feb-12, 01:03   #63
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stojaca 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Serbia
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 290
Posted by aatje:
Been reading these forums for years now and have never reacted to the rigged comments but i find it so tipical that always the same people at this site are on top of anyone who dears to think that a site maybe has housebots,bots,house players,set up hands etc etc .... Of course they do ...everyone whith a brain can see there are things happening also at the big sites that just are complete BS...these people that are so agressive to defend these sites and i have even see them treaten people untill they just give up obviously have an interrest in doing that because they been doing it for years here. And just because a hand history maybe look oke does not say anything about the outcome of deciding hands in big pots or critical times in a tournament..And big sites do have a reason to cheat...MONEY !! ...If they can make 10 times more by cheating with house bots for example in tournaments THEY WILL and THEY ARE ...If you think every player on pokerstars is a human you must have a plate in front of your face...If pokerstars only lets a few bots in every tournament they can make millions more every month...And now with all the small sites so openly cheating and all the shady stuff happening at almost every site i cant believe people still think online poker is real...ITS NOT....you win sometimes yes and some people must win ...i dont say they havent thought about it ...they smart...BUT ITS A COMPUTERPROGRAMME...A VIDEOGAME....MADE BY PEOPLE WHO WANT MONEY ....AMAP !!!
Now all the people who have an interest in defening this online BS poker take a shot ....i know you will ...you been doing it for years....i wonder why...????
Call this reaction rigtard reaction, or conspiracy theorist or come with some hand history BS
The fact is 99,99% of small players will never make it big online ... not because they play bad ...no because these computer programs wont let them
Just like online casino's the casino pushes the win or loose button its not random....you think for example online BJ is random....you must be crazy or just dumb
1 more time everyone with a brain can see that also at the biggest site of the world cards arent falling naturaly whatever you PS or PP defenders whill say to this....its a fact...
So to everyone and in this case H4RMony ....yes u are right and dont make these agressive people that populate these forums make you think otherwise....your brain is obviously working




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  23-Feb-12, 01:39   #64
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mkrkinnen 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 6
RIGGED Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  23-Feb-12, 02:28   #65
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 55 (M)
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At the moment, in case you hadn't noticed, you are posting in a forum populated mostly by online poker players who, because they have yet to see evidence to he contrary, believe the sites are above board.

Continually posting here will achieve nothing but waste your time and maybe give a little entertainment to those who mock you.

Now, if you people seriously think the sites are rigged then gather some evidence and take it to the relevant gaming commission. That is what they are for. Or alternatively you could just stop playing.

I mean, really, what do you expect us to do? Agree with you maybe? OK you're right the sites are rigged. Now will you please stop!

Edited by zeroster (23 February 2012 @ 02:35 GMT)


     
  23-Feb-12, 02:40   #66
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Coahorse 
Joined: Jun '09
Location: Serbia and Montenegro
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2
poker is all about long run and those who tryed to get rich fast in this game are usually eaten by the shark at the end and we'll see how long this gonna last.
my opinion is that online poker rooms are diggin their own hal or they know something we dont about online poker future or im just stupid(i think im stupid) but i care less n less for that ..anyway gl n gg all

     
  23-Feb-12, 09:47   #67
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rv 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Latvia
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Posts: 97
Posted by jessthehuman:
A simple exercise in critical thinking would surely draw you to the question "Why on earth would poker stars favour people hitting their flushes in freerolls / micro tournaments?" and the obvious answer - they wouldn't.

Very well said sir Thumbs Up

     
  23-Feb-12, 11:27   #68
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aatje 
Joined: Feb '12
Location: Netherlands
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Posted by rv:
Posted by jessthehuman:
A simple exercise in critical thinking would surely draw you to the question "Why on earth would poker stars favour people hitting their flushes in freerolls / micro tournaments?" and the obvious answer - they wouldn't.

Very well said sir Thumbs Up


So they be done faster and people will play more tournaments or take their little BR to cash tables after it .... so THEY WOULD ....not only in micro though

     
  23-Feb-12, 11:41   #69
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cetjesleo 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Belgium
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 1
mabey yes

     
  23-Feb-12, 11:50   #70
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 36 (M)
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Posted by aatje:
Posted by rv:
Posted by jessthehuman:
A simple exercise in critical thinking would surely draw you to the question "Why on earth would poker stars favour people hitting their flushes in freerolls / micro tournaments?" and the obvious answer - they wouldn't.

Very well said sir Thumbs Up


So they be done faster and people will play more tournaments or take their little BR to cash tables after it .... so THEY WOULD ....not only in micro though


That's ridiculous. The length of tournaments is largely dictated by starting stack, amount of runners, length of blinds and the blind levels themselves.. You pretty much calculate to within a half-hour or so as to how long a tournament will go for based on this data.

Why don't you actually track the hand histories of these tournaments you think it is happening in, even just across 1,000 tournaments or so - a relatively small sample and see if flushes/etc are really winning more often than they should be. I'll bet you your bankroll that they're not.

     
  23-Feb-12, 11:54   #71
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shoveandtilt 

Joined: Jan '10
Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 543
How did i miss this thread...it's golden!!!

     
  23-Feb-12, 13:24   #72
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lukasb 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1738
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by aatje:
Posted by rv:
Posted by jessthehuman:
A simple exercise in critical thinking would surely draw you to the question "Why on earth would poker stars favour people hitting their flushes in freerolls / micro tournaments?" and the obvious answer - they wouldn't.

Very well said sir Thumbs Up


So they be done faster and people will play more tournaments or take their little BR to cash tables after it .... so THEY WOULD ....not only in micro though


That's ridiculous. The length of tournaments is largely dictated by starting stack, amount of runners, length of blinds and the blind levels themselves.. You pretty much calculate to within a half-hour or so as to how long a tournament will go for based on this data.

Why don't you actually track the hand histories of these tournaments you think it is happening in, even just across 1,000 tournaments or so - a relatively small sample and see if flushes/etc are really winning more often than they should be. I'll bet you your bankroll that they're not.


Carefull what u bet Jess.. that's a 55 year old woman that play's poker since she's 15. I'm not sure you can cover that bet m8.. even more losing money on rigged poker like you do Disagree

     
  23-Feb-12, 20:47   #73
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 6482
Posted by lukasb:
Carefull what u bet Jess.. that's a 55 year old woman that play's poker since she's 15. I'm not sure you can cover that bet m8.. even more losing money on rigged poker like you do Disagree


It's probably a bet I want to lose.. IMHO most rigtards are losing players.. So, she's been losing at poker since she was 15, probably has some shady hook-ups by 55.. I'm guessing her bankroll is probably a 43% interest loan, $10K or something.. So if I win I'll just inherit a $14,300 debt :O

     
  23-Feb-12, 22:22   #74
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djtopato 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 107
Maan Freeroll and you lose with flush..probably you pool the triger in wrong moment when other player hunting flush. Try to minimize the pot previous if flush is very close.Pokerstars is best site in the world and i think is not interested for favorize players in freerolls

     
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