Posted by TheMachineQC: I just proved mascona's theory wrong! I'm big stack in a MicroMillions tournament right now and a short stack sucked out my AQo with QJo
Looks like you were wrong buddy, now I don't feel invincible anymore, I think I'm gonna start limping and folding
------------ Awww, again, short stack shoves with 5-7s, I call with A-J and he hits 2 pairs on the flop! Damn I guess
But don't worry my stack is still healthy atfer all the grinding and bullying
Ah, just as I'm writing this, I bust 2 guys with KK, hitting my K on the flop (against 99 and 10-j that shoved/called pre flop) I guess that's what they call variance!
What's so suspicious about donks doing donk plays and getting busted by trip kings? I never saved my hand history, but I guess you can find that on sharkscope. Some short stack donk that kept rebuying shoved 10-j with 6k chips for no reason, Button called with 9-9 with about 16k, I had about 33K so of course I shoved over the top with KK on SB. And button called like a donk.
It was a 1$ tourny, I was playing aggressive, had a maniac table image, hit a lot... But in the end I still lost with AK on BB to A-6s on SB. Believe it or not, I don't give a s**t buddy People (or should I say donks) call you all in with A-6 when they have above average stacks. That is the reality.
So mascona I'm gonna keep saying that to you: If you see more suck outs online, it's because people gamble a lot and have no respect for each other, and they don't care to look like a fool cause no one sees them.
Edited by TheMachineQC (16 March 2012 @ 11:36 GMT)
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i find its legitim to talk about poker being rigged or not, but this is ridiculous. the arguments (big stacks always win, the pokerroom set up the software for russian`s to win any hand so they gonna deposit in future) are just > not even worth arguing, just plain stupid - sorry.
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Who said something about software that help Russians to convince them to deposit ? The main aim of that software is to eliminate players as quickly as it's possible ERGO ==> to finish the tournament faster and let the people sign in to the next one....which bring PokerStars more fee.
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This post will live forever, just like your ignorance for simple fact that gambling was always full of dirty tricks and nothing changed till today.... The question was: " Why collecting 10 M. fee per week, if we know how to double it with a simple software algorytm which can't be detected anyway ? "
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Posted by mascona: Who said something about software that help Russians to convince them to deposit ? The main aim of that software is to eliminate players as quickly as it's possible ERGO ==> to finish the tournament faster and let the people sign in to the next one....which bring PokerStars more fee.
i read somewhere about russians.. guess i confused threads (too many rigged threads around) well, then get bigstack asap - problem solved
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About dying: According to your statistics pokershark74, your skill is already dead, so please be quiet, we really don't need opinions from such a experts. One Duhamel is enough for the next 10 years.
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Posted by TheMachineQC:
Posted by Flippedchips:
Posted by TheMachineQC: I just proved mascona's theory wrong! I'm big stack in a MicroMillions tournament right now and a short stack sucked out my AQo with QJo
Looks like you were wrong buddy, now I don't feel invincible anymore, I think I'm gonna start limping and folding
------------ Awww, again, short stack shoves with 5-7s, I call with A-J and he hits 2 pairs on the flop! Damn I guess
But don't worry my stack is still healthy atfer all the grinding and bullying
Ah, just as I'm writing this, I bust 2 guys with KK, hitting my K on the flop (against 99 and 10-j that shoved/called pre flop) I guess that's what they call variance!
What's so suspicious about donks doing donk plays and getting busted by trip kings? I never saved my hand history, but I guess you can find that on sharkscope. Some short stack donk that kept rebuying shoved 10-j with 6k chips for no reason, Button called with 9-9 with about 16k, I had about 33K so of course I shoved over the top with KK on SB. And button called like a donk.
It was a 1$ tourny, I was playing aggressive, had a maniac table image, hit a lot... But in the end I still lost with AK on BB to A-6s on SB. Believe it or not, I don't give a s**t buddy People (or should I say donks) call you all in with A-6 when they have above average stacks. That is the reality.
So mascona I'm gonna keep saying that to you: If you see more suck outs online, it's because people gamble a lot and have no respect for each other, and they don't care to look like a fool cause no one sees them.
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Posted by mascona: About dying: According to your statistics pokershark74, your skill is already dead, so please be quiet, we really don't need opinions from such a experts. One Duhamel is enough for the next 10 years.
you want to go you piece of fcking crap come to toronto right now danforth road ill fcking kick your fcking squirmy little bich ass
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Posted by mascona:
LOL, where is your poker face now boy ? Toronto....Donkforth Road.....I'll note this
Now listen its really simple. They likely didnt have probability in school if you went Mascona. No disrespect but 60 years ago Poland was a tough place to live im thinking. Ne ways probability in conjunction with the law of large numbers dictates these things. When theQC speaks on people having no shame and playing hands that have no right in the hand he is correct. A2 beats AK pretty often online. Why? Does it have more to do with the software allowing the 2 to come an obsene amount of times? or more to do with the fact people are playing A2 in hands it shouldnt be in.
Also, in short anyone who complains about poker but still plays is a loser. Not because i say they are a loser but typically its a easy tell of someone who is. Like angry drunks or wife beaters. Just my opinion based on my experiences.
Posted by TheMachineQC: I just proved mascona's theory wrong! I'm big stack in a MicroMillions tournament right now and a short stack sucked out my AQo with QJo
Looks like you were wrong buddy, now I don't feel invincible anymore, I think I'm gonna start limping and folding
------------ Awww, again, short stack shoves with 5-7s, I call with A-J and he hits 2 pairs on the flop! Damn I guess
But don't worry my stack is still healthy atfer all the grinding and bullying
Ah, just as I'm writing this, I bust 2 guys with KK, hitting my K on the flop (against 99 and 10-j that shoved/called pre flop) I guess that's what they call variance!
What's so suspicious about donks doing donk plays and getting busted by trip kings? I never saved my hand history, but I guess you can find that on sharkscope. Some short stack donk that kept rebuying shoved 10-j with 6k chips for no reason, Button called with 9-9 with about 16k, I had about 33K so of course I shoved over the top with KK on SB. And button called like a donk.
It was a 1$ tourny, I was playing aggressive, had a maniac table image, hit a lot... But in the end I still lost with AK on BB to A-6s on SB. Believe it or not, I don't give a s**t buddy People (or should I say donks) call you all in with A-6 when they have above average stacks. That is the reality.
So mascona I'm gonna keep saying that to you: If you see more suck outs online, it's because people gamble a lot and have no respect for each other, and they don't care to look like a fool cause no one sees them.
lol was clearly a joke
Damn, the smiley got me, sorry
Next time I won't post when I just got sucked out for the 8th time
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i stopped playing on pokerstars cos i thought it was fishy but im sorry after a multitude of sins against my high pairs on other sites i think your blowing it out of your arse im not being rude or dissmissive but im sure all software gets thoroughly checked by some gaming comission or other i mean they dont call it a bad beat for nothing i recommend you go to another site nothing will change you will still get bad beats but youll learn not to rely on big pairs cos thats all they are 1 pair and youll get better good luck
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And the neverending story of fuckin' kosher cheat goes like that again: MicroMillions full ring - 3 hours of playing, 3 K players left /14,5 K total/. I'm at the button with AK, all are folding to me, I raise 2,4 BB....small blind folds and "big stack" at big blind position just calls. Flop is: K T 8, he checks, I bet like 55% of pot and the TURN comes: K - dream card for me - 3 of kind, he checks again and I pull the trigger - all in - he calls instantly for more than 60% of his stack and shows: QJ and I already knew what card will follow on RIVER - of course - 9.....and I'm screw one more time.
Anyone can tell me what did I do wrong this time ?....was it correct decission....or should I just fold after turn with KKK.....and please don't tell me I should go allin preflop for 35 BB.
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Posted by mascona:
Anyone can tell me what did I do wrong this time ?
You got unlucky, it happens.
Lets just get this in perspective. This thread is now twelve days old. in those twelve days you have given us a total of five examples of this happening.
Hardly conclusive evidence is it? In fact I'd be more inclined to think it was rigged if it happened any less than five times in twelve days.
But ultimately I know I'm wasting my time. Arguing with logic against irrational beliefs is useless.
If you're so convinced it's rigged stop playing. It's that simple.
I'm done with this, any further discussion with you on this matter is futile.