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I think you should take into account what level or buy-in you were playing. Low stakes, low buy-in, rebuy tourney, all this might affect peoples decisions. Also your playing style might convince players to call or raise you with any hand. You might want to look into that first. Furthermore, isee no reason in the last couple hands you provided why SB shouldn't play the way he played, flopping up en down straightdraw in a blindsbattle.. I am a tight player but i would prolly sit that one out too. j7s is not a bad starting hand imo as SB entering,and you flop a pair. why give up the hand, especially when BB overbets? Anyway, i am not a highroller, but i won a few tourney's on pokerstars, so no problem there. I find the low stakes cashgames quite difficult because of the many people who will call inside straightdraws and such, i can understand how that clouds the game. I am sure there are a lot of rigged pokersites and cheating players, but in general i find pokerstars one of the more reliable sites. A couple of months ago i even got a cashback from them, with a message they found irregularities during some tourney's and cashgames i played a week before, so they refunded some buy-ins. That feels kindda trustworthy to me, but thats just my opinion
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Iam really surprised how this thread is still active! Still wondering how many times it was used the name shitstars and magic river!!!
funny fact, i dontplay on pokertars but oin other sitres i played there is a magic river that sometimes favoured me but mostof timesputted me in troubles!
That magic river card happened too me again on shitstars had trip kings on the turn and lost too a straight on the river from now on only free rolls on this magic joker river stars
Joined: Feb '11
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Well, it is very possible that software is set in such way that, odds don't match live cards game. But I don't think that program targets specific people.
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That's exactly what I mean, they don't give any advance to specific players. They just set the software for more action, which generate more rake.....it's all about bigger income.
Joined: Nov '12
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I personally think you are looking at it way to result oriented...
Why would they risk their business by messing around with the software if real random generates enough rake already... Rigging their software would be bad for their business.
I didn't look through your provided hands but you should keep in mind when you are a, for example 75% favorite on your oponent you should realize that's still 1 in 4 times your oponent will win the hand...
When you get sutch a bad beat you should just move on, analyze the hand and when you where the favorite you have played it well and keep playing that way and be happy your opponent made that call/raise/bet.
Next time you experience a bad beat you should be smiling and hoping he doesn't hit and run you, when you keep playing this person you will end up with his stack...
Don't be result oriented! Get it out of your head, especially pokerstars is not rigged!
(I don't cleam every poker site is clean, I certenly have seen some rigged software)
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I was playing a game of poker once, I got dealt a hand, I was hoping to win and I had nice cards, I went allin on the flop and some guy called, my hand was stronger, but then the turn & river improved his hand and I ended up losing.
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I was just about to make a rational argument as to why it most likely isn't rigged but then realized that trying to rationalize with people that continue to play on a site that they think is rigged would be futile.
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Posted by zeroster: I was just about to make a rational argument as to why it most likely isn't rigged but then realized that trying to rationalize with people that continue to play on a site that they think is rigged would be futile.
It's as Albert Einstein said...
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
Hey mascona,.....yep,....another Polish joke for ya.... I've got plenty more where this one came from
Posted by zeroster: I was just about to make a rational argument as to why it most likely isn't rigged but then realized that trying to rationalize with people that continue to play on a site that they think is rigged would be futile.
It's as Albert Einstein said...
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
Ah simple truths....by definition prefect . This is why a shift to a 3bet/4bet fold can be a good replacement option at times in certain situations. Seeing where we have the best hand that can not be defeated regardless of the outcome of cards to come, then, in each and every case that follows is a coin flip situation regardless of which street is to come. Variance induced by reverse implied odds is a cruel reality of the game. Although it is said that in an AI situation these odds are less effective because there are no more decisions to come (it's already been made)....it still exists and should be taken into account during the decision making process. Basically it's thinking on a different level.
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Posted by mascona: As a PokerStars worker you have to say that zeroster .... image is everything , but unfortunately facts are saying exactly the opposite site.
Just too crazy a statement to debate. See a psychiatrist you're delusional. Or, more likely you are a narcissistic egotist who just want's some attention with this thread. Either way you need a shrink.
Have a read and think about just how weak and stupid a thing it is to accuse me of being in the employ of stars.
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