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here are the results of my last 2 pokers hands, 1st hand in 2 separate tournaments...entered 1st tourney, lost, watched angela jolie in the bone collector and then i played the 2nd tourney and lost. what are the odds of this happening?
*********** # 1 ************** PokerStars Hand #77877625626: Tournament #566010072, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2012/03/27 1:20:43 ET Table '566010072 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: crazyfuzz (8240 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: WithYourMom (5910 in chips) Seat 3: kovy85 (3000 in chips) Seat 4: GolfBall627 (3540 in chips) Seat 5: giannoss (3090 in chips) Seat 6: Pauk8844 (2825 in chips) Seat 7: gargamel82 (6760 in chips) Seat 8: cintezoi (3000 in chips) Seat 9: mirfil (3840 in chips) giannoss: posts small blind 20 Pauk8844: posts big blind 40 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to kovy85 [Ad Ac] gargamel82: raises 40 to 80 cintezoi: folds mirfil: calls 80 crazyfuzz: folds WithYourMom: folds kovy85: raises 240 to 320 GolfBall627: folds giannoss: folds Pauk8844: folds gargamel82: calls 240 mirfil: calls 240 *** FLOP *** [4s 8c 6s] gargamel82: checks mirfil: checks kovy85: bets 1040 gargamel82: calls 1040 mirfil: raises 2480 to 3520 and is all-in kovy85: calls 1640 and is all-in gargamel82: calls 2480 *** TURN *** [4s 8c 6s] *** RIVER *** [4s 8c 6s 2c] *** SHOW DOWN *** gargamel82: shows [3c 5c] (a flush, Eight high) mirfil: shows [3s As] (a pair of Sixes) gargamel82 collected 1680 from side pot kovy85: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes) gargamel82 collected 9060 from main pot mirfil finished the tournament in 1143rd place kovy85 finished the tournament in 1144th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 10740 Main pot 9060. Side pot 1680. | Rake 0 Board [4s 8c 6s 2c 6c] Seat 1: crazyfuzz folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: WithYourMom folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: kovy85 showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes Seat 4: GolfBall627 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: giannoss (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: Pauk8844 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: gargamel82 showed [3c 5c] and won (10740) with a flush, Eight high Seat 8: cintezoi folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: mirfil showed [3s As] and lost with a pair of Sixes
*********** # 1 ************** PokerStars Hand #77879911974: Tournament #537484561, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2012/03/27 3:39:55 ET Table '537484561 55' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: RMYNWA (6270 in chips) Seat 2: 3eBc (2000 in chips) Seat 3: Serg-Sanya (10366 in chips) Seat 4: Kent the man (10306 in chips) Seat 5: rodriguin_df (3617 in chips) Seat 6: GuessWho2504 (1970 in chips) Seat 7: IRBIS MAN (3731 in chips) Seat 8: kovy85 (2000 in chips) Seat 9: $T0P~me!! (1085 in chips) RMYNWA: posts the ante 15 3eBc: posts the ante 15 Serg-Sanya: posts the ante 15 Kent the man: posts the ante 15 rodriguin_df: posts the ante 15 GuessWho2504: posts the ante 15 IRBIS MAN: posts the ante 15 kovy85: posts the ante 15 $T0P~me!!: posts the ante 15 rodriguin_df: posts small blind 60 GuessWho2504: posts big blind 120 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to kovy85 [Ah As] IRBIS MAN: calls 120 kovy85: raises 1865 to 1985 and is all-in $T0P~me!!: folds RMYNWA: folds 3eBc: folds Serg-Sanya: folds Kent the man: folds rodriguin_df: folds GuessWho2504: folds IRBIS MAN: calls 1865 *** FLOP *** [Jh Js 9d] *** TURN *** [Jh Js 9d] *** RIVER *** [Jh Js 9d 5d] *** SHOW DOWN *** IRBIS MAN: shows [Qh Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks) kovy85: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) IRBIS MAN collected 4285 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 4285 | Rake 0 Board [Jh Js 9d 5d Td] Seat 1: RMYNWA folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: 3eBc folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Serg-Sanya folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Kent the man (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: rodriguin_df (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: GuessWho2504 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: IRBIS MAN showed [Qh Jc] and won (4285) with three of a kind, Jacks Seat 8: kovy85 showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks Seat 9: $T0P~me!! folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Well, to start with....oh f**k it I can't be bothered anymore.
I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.
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LNP theorems
Theorem no- 03446688955687i9076554222556678889994453632728292927446547- Theorem of random ass the odds of making 'rigged' thread in a random forum after getting aces first hand in 2 tournaments and losing both is inversely proportional to time spent watching ass of angelina jolie in bone collector
for more details - refer to "Rigtards Guidebook to LNP"
Posted by zeroster: I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.
you cant run from rigtards, they are everywhere. in some of the forums, condition is worse than this. just ignore them or have a laugh
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That mirfil from the first hand is crazy: is he just a kid, is he drunk, or is he just in a mood to lose money? About gargamel82, is sure should have had that feeling. Straight draw is nice, but that nice to go all-in? I bet he was putting you in high cards and watching so many low cards at the table he thought he would made it, and that just happened, but I would only do such move if, besides straight draw, I would also have flush draw, which wasn’t the case at the flop, when you both went all-in. About the second hand, nothing strange there, you were short, your opponent had 3x your chips and also need to increase, going against you with QJ is fair enough.
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Posted by kovy85: answer the question for me please, what are the odds?
arent u asking too much for someone who doesnt even understand what first hand in a tournament means ?????
anyway your odds of losing both hands when u went allin were 1 to 10 (about 9%) though like i said in another thread, they are irrelevant in this scenario.
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Posted by kovy85: answer the question for me please, what are the odds?
No have answer yet ? I am sure just real expert can answer your question. with super natural reason I guest . I also curious what the answer ! MAYBE the answer is when someone in bad luck moment or day no have odds, so do not do anything
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hey dude your ass may feel the randomness- who knows what are you sticking there but in terms of probability- whether the random number generator (combinations) do work or are rigged can only be seen when studying a very large amount of data (hands)- and in a short time frame you can lose with aa 4 times in a row and that wouldn't mean that there is something wrong with the site
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by zeroster: I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.
you cant run from rigtards, they are everywhere. in some of the forums, condition is worse than this. just ignore them or have a laugh
Actually I am already a member of another poker forum. I've been there for about 18 months and in all that time I have never seen a single rigged thread. It's probably because it's mostly inhabited by mid to high stakes players with a few known pros thrown in, most of whom also play a lot of live poker. Obviously I rarely post there as I'd be completely out of my depth.
This place because of it's very nature, ie. giving away free bankrolls, is mostly micro stakes and free roll players. This, I think, is what gives rise to the problem. As most of the members here are playing micros they are running into loads of players that will call down to the river with any two and therefore see way more bad beats than they would expect.
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I don't care that the post is a whine session. What I find hard to believe is you've been a member since 08 and this is your 7th post. Maybe if you'd spend some time posting and make some of them interesting or about having some luck or enjoying the freerolls that BRM offers you'd gain respect from the fellow Mobsters. By the way I probably hit about 65% of the timwe when I have AA and always scared how to play them. I mean Allin, slow, but usually just like a regular pair is when I do best. Not being sarcastic and Good Luck to all!
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When I am playing poker - I play either 9 tables of 6max RING game. Or 6-9 tables of MTTs and open more as time goes on - I usually play around 10-20 MTTs in a single session.
You have no idea how funny I think it is that you think a couple hands are some kind of significant thing. First hand - you weren't even that far ahead - you had an over pair, he had an OESD + backdoor flush draw, he hit his draw and won. have a F*cking cry mate.
Seriously, if you feel the need to post this crap, poker isn't for you. You're a little girl and maybe better playing a game like barbie dolls or something similar.
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@Greenmohave: If you still play AA scared you should change tactics..or the game.. (really no disrespect intended, I know the thrill of the aces..and I know how I used to feel too, but if you play them like a paranoic person you'll get into trouble more often than not). I used to think "oh god my aces win about 60% of the time i''m so unlucky bla bla" but then I got Holdem Manager and on a sample of about 120K hands I saw that I won with AA 79.5%...seemed about right
P.S.: only good thing I got from this post was the ass of angelina jolie in bone collector yey
U WIN U LOSE 
U LOSE U WIN 
but in terms of probability- whether the random number generator (combinations) do work or are rigged can only be seen when studying a very large amount of data (hands)- and in a short time frame you can lose with aa 4 times in a row and that wouldn't mean that there is something wrong with the site 
