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  29-Apr-12, 19:03   #41
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MrBokee 

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Posted by GoTrixo:
i play stoned alot. And for me it has wonderfull effect,my mind is more relaxed,my mood is definitely better. i enjoy the game more, i keep talking to myself thats a bit scary.. but dont worry it does its purpose Big Smile If i wasnt talking to myself about opponents and how they play. It would be boring for me to play online. Anyway about the poker Pros that Phill Hellmuth said that they have taken some drugs.. Im pretty sure theyre talking about some stuff like the guy few posts above me described. Im not really experienced in this type of drugs, i never touched a hard drug. And oh yeah. It is better for me as alcohol. It is killing my brain cells. Yet alcohol does kills your brain cells + liver.


Ok.. next step, you're using cocaine Blink
My opinion is that marijuana is a gateway drug.. Beside that, you become dumber and dumber,.. after a lot of smoking you become even dumbrer.. And addicted! So, the next REGULAR and LOGICAL step for longuse marijuana smoker (when it loses all effects to dumb brain) is using something stronger.. A lot of ppl dont just stop using it when effects are not there, cuz they r searching for something better.. a lot of pros use cocaine, but.. lucky them..

     
  30-Apr-12, 00:01   #42
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whycliff 
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sory but this b******t what y wright MrBokee. I am a defender for dont use drugs in daily routine . But if y smoke at weekend 3-5 joints its ok mayby hippistyle but better as koma drunk. if y have normal Marihuana its dont loos her power on the body like ALCOHOL. But Alcohol this is devilish. Gateway drug never ever

     
  30-Apr-12, 01:13   #43
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MrBokee 

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Ok, respect that.. But, in my earlier post, i've not compared marijuana and alcohol.. We can now discus a lot about negative/positive things about marijuana. I just think this isnt proper place to elaborate all good/bad things..

I don't smoke / I don't drink, and I 'admire' ppl doing it everyday..
Gateway drug? Oh yes, sir!

     
  30-Apr-12, 01:51   #44
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JackalDFL 
Joined: Nov '11
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Posted by MrBokee:
Ok, respect that.. But, in my earlier post, i've not compared marijuana and alcohol.. We can now discus a lot about negative/positive things about marijuana. I just think this isnt proper place to elaborate all good/bad things..

I don't smoke / I don't drink, and I 'admire' ppl doing it everyday..
Gateway drug? Oh yes, sir!



They say opinions are like buttholes so opine your butthole on this......if marijuana is a gateway drug then explain how after 3 years of being fed by my doctors every kind of narcotic to treat 4 major pain related disorders that I end up using marijuana to treat the pain and nothing else? I have no curiosity or desire for any narcotic (well I did hear that sex on exctacy was pretty wild). So its kind of a backwards gateway dontchya think?

     
  30-Apr-12, 04:28   #45
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mreid123 
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lmao what kind of post is this i cant beleave u guys its kinda funny but still... anyways pokerstars has cheats now ive seen on youtube and im kiunda disgusted with poker and here i a m on thius forum typeing to the world wondering why but yeah u guys should gimme a raise on posts points cause ya lolol z burntt...... haahhaahann hahahhahah,..

     
  30-Apr-12, 04:28   #46
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0HighTimes0 

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Posted by MrBokee:
Ok, respect that.. But, in my earlier post, i've not compared marijuana and alcohol.. We can now discus a lot about negative/positive things about marijuana. I just think this isnt proper place to elaborate all good/bad things..

I don't smoke / I don't drink, and I 'admire' ppl doing it everyday..
Gateway drug? Oh yes, sir!


I have never heard someone die-ing with JUST smoking Weed( you only thing is your fall asleep), as with Alcohol, people die every day from Alcohol Poisoning, and prescription drugs etc.
In my experience The Gateway statement is not true (just look Netherlands Drug Statistics, they have the least Hard drug User's, even though u can smoke(weed) cafes etc.
Alcohol, caffeine, tobacco are more Gateway drug's than Pot
IF HEMP weed/pot etc so evil/bad why was used for some of the oldest bibles made from hemp paper
It was used as Food(eat seeds, it meant to have all 26 proteins that body needs) in many places in old/new world, there more dangerous substances than pot IMO (tobacco, etc)

"Hemp has been demonised by industrial competitors and venal politicians for their own advantage, depriving humanity of a very useful plant, which, in the drug context, is far less harmful than
alcohol, heroin, amphetamines, cocaine, or even antidepressants."
http://www.hempembassy.net/

“The reasons the pro-marijuana lobby wants marijuana to be legal have little to do with getting high, and a great deal to do with fighting oil giants. The pro-marijuana groups claim that hemp is such a versatile raw material that its products not only compete with petroleum, but with coal, natural gas, nuclear energy, pharmaceutical, timber and textile companies. It is estimated that methane and methanol production alone from hemp grown as bio-mass could replace 90% of the world’s energy needs. If they’re right, this is not good news for oil interests, and could account for the continuation
of marijuana prohibition.” Hugh Downs,
(US) ABC Radio Network journalist.
http://www.hempembassy.net/

Henry Ford’s first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS
CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp
fields. The car, ‘grown from the soil,’ had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10
times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics,
1941.
http://www.rense.com/general67/FORD.HTM


     
  30-Apr-12, 05:51   #47
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retribution 

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Posted by 0HighTimes0:
[QUOTE]Posted by MrBokee:


Thumbs Up My gf and I smoke pot regularly. I agree 100% that the only reason we can't legally enjoy it, is due to a corrupt and greedy government. How can they condemn something that naturally grows in the earth. yet allow alcohol? 2 words. Regulation and taxation. They realise that it's not something THEY can easily make a lot of money on, so they ban it for everyone.

     
  30-Apr-12, 07:12   #48
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jovicakralj 

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...to smoke

     
  30-Apr-12, 10:01   #49
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by 0HighTimes0:
It was used as Food(eat seeds, it meant to have all 26 proteins that body needs) in many places in old/new world,

there are no specific 26 proteins that body needs
and i dont think its nutritional value is anywhere near a reference protein

     
  30-Apr-12, 11:14   #50
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0HighTimes0 

Joined: Feb '12
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by 0HighTimes0:
It was used as Food(eat seeds, it meant to have all 26 proteins that body needs) in many places in old/new world,

there are no specific 26 proteins that body needs
and i don't think its nutritional value is anywhere near a reference protein


It dose we/people need Amino Acids(protein's) for top health
"full complement of essential amino acids, essential fatty-acids (EFA'S)" ( in text below)
it has vege protein in hemp seeds, i read in book years ago(book written in 1970's so this knowledge been around for years) that it has 26 Amino Acid's that body needs for good health, this was from scientific research. just goggle Hemp+Food

"Hemp as food
Hemp seeds are drug-free and extremely nutritious. They can be eaten whole, pressed into edible oil like soybeans, or ground into flour for baking. They are one of the best sources of vegetable protein. They contain a full complement of essential amino acids, essential fatty-acids (EFA'S), and have been shown to lower blood cholesterol and dissolve plaque in coronary arteries.

Because hemp is such a hardy plant, it can grow easily and abundantly almost anywhere, and can provide nutrition where other edible crops just won't grow. Hemp can even be cultivated in arid regions with poor soil like Saharan Africa or in places with a very short growing season like Scandinavia."
http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

(This is why alot people went hungry when it was outlawed 1960's, food source despaired for culture's that been using for 1000's yrs. EXP in Himalaya's, India, Pakistan etc )

"Hemp is one of the oldest crops improved by man. The history of hemp in the Netherlands goes back thousands of years. The stalk of the hemp plant produces one of the strongest natural fibres in the world. It was used, for example, for making rope, textiles and paper. Furthermore, the seed of the hemp plant contains highly nutritional oil which was not just used for human and animal consumption, but also as lamp oil and to make soap and paint."
http://hempflax.com/en/what-is-hemp/a-brief-history-of-hemp


"hemp seed for protein"( in text below) & "highly nutritional oil" ( in text above)
"1631
Hemp used as money throughout American colonies.
1776
American 'Declaration of Independence' drafted on hemp paper.
1791
President Washington sets duties on hemp to encourage domestic industry; Jefferson calls hemp "a necessity", and urges farmers to grow hemp instead of tobacco.
(added it say's in George Washington diary "He couldn't wait get home for Hemp festival", as he grew it)
1801
Certain premiums offered to encourage the cultivation of hemp in Upper and Lower Canada.
1800's
Australia survives two prolonged famines by eating virtually nothing but hemp seed for protein and hemp leaves for roughage."
http://www.hemphousemaui.com/resources/history.php

"Hemp used as money throughout American colonies."
Was/is this why the term POT Dollar (poker) is called what it is today?
All Thee Best Thumbs Up

Edited by 0HighTimes0 (30 April 2012 @ 11:24 GMT)


     
  30-Apr-12, 12:02   #51
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bullettooth1 

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some great info there by hightimes. i never knew that much about hemp.
its such a good plant for various things. its definately all about taxation when it comes to legalisation. i dont smoke it myself and have no desire to, although i used to do it when i was 15/16 quite regular.
i do think its alot less damaging than alcohol.

     
  30-Apr-12, 13:12   #52
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SuperNoob 

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1- many amino acids do form protein but amino acids are not proteins.

2- in ref to humans, there are only 20/21 proteinogenic amino acids and out of which only 9 are absolutely essential for protein synthesis.

3- nutritional value of protein is not in terms of amino acids it contains (as most proteins will contain almost all standard amino acids) but their relative amount in the protein.
PDCAAS is the present gold standard for comparing protein quality, and its value is rather low for hemp seeds(66% max vs 100% for milk protein/egg protein).
and now a link which has some actual scientific information
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20977230

     
  30-Apr-12, 13:18   #53
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pothead2012 
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Delicious Blink

     
  30-Apr-12, 15:52   #54
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Mober 
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I havent met anyone so far getting dumb from smoking weed and im talking for
normal consumption not putting one down and making another Smile all day.
Havent met such person, though to see if that goes true there Smile
I believe its a myth.



     
  30-Apr-12, 15:54   #55
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sadamman 

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Loving supernoobs endless intellect. Thumbs Up Worship Worship Worship Worship

     
  30-Apr-12, 16:07   #56
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remco2504 
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I am from the Netherlands and most of you know its the weed capital of the world

About 10% of people have negative reactions of weed from mild to very bad
Talking about paranoia,pain getting passive, losing family jobs going CRAZY

BUT most people just enjoy it and its in no way a gateway drug
You can however get involved with the wrong people and in that way it is a gateway drug though

I think if you dont experience these bad reactions its better then alcohol if you want to relax

And of course there is also a group of people that actually function better with weed

So....wanne smoke ??...Only do it if it helps you relax,function
NEVER use it to excape the real world

mmm...very hungry right now...gonne munch some downstairs Blink

     
  30-Apr-12, 17:06   #57
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jovicakralj 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
1- many amino acids do form protein but amino acids are not proteins.

2- in ref to humans, there are only 20/21 proteinogenic amino acids and out of which only 9 are absolutely essential for protein synthesis.

3- nutritional value of protein is not in terms of amino acids it contains (as most proteins will contain almost all standard amino acids) but their relative amount in the protein.
PDCAAS is the present gold standard for comparing protein quality, and its value is rather low for hemp seeds(66% max vs 100% for milk protein/egg protein).
and now a link which has some actual scientific information
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20977230

What school you are finishing? I consider myself to know lot about everything but you... Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship
And its proof that ppl from ''second and third world countries" have lot wider knowledge then people fro western countries. I guess they dont go wide but deep...

     
  30-Apr-12, 18:04   #58
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by jovicakralj:
What school you are finishing? I consider myself to know lot about everything but you... Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship
And its proof that ppl from ''second and third world countries" have lot wider knowledge then people fro western countries. I guess they dont go wide but deep...

lol i'm not a genius or something. i am a medical graduate that's why i know this stuff.
but hav to admit that's partly because i'm from a third world country.
here if u dont have a good education, its hard to get a good job

     
  30-Apr-12, 18:08   #59
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rbdflyboy 

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I have a friend...his wife is a first responder paramedic. One day we were all sitting around chatting and smoking. 7 years ago I was involved in a major high speed 70+ mph side impact collision. I walked away at the time because I was numb and didn't feel anything...nothing was actually broken, I continued working. I went down 8 months later...hard. What I didn't realize was my body was twisted worse than a pretzel and stuck there. No one in the medical community would touch me...they just tried to give me pills and make me a legal drug addic. I don't use pills for anything.
So I ask my paramedic friend how come when I smoke not only do I feel better but I can also isolate where the source of the pain originates. She replied pot use constricts blood vessels, so if there isn't a problem with a body all is well. In my case the restricted blood vessels, restricted more and I cud work on that area my body and then find the next weakest link.
Been doing this for 7 years now and I'm 90% healed and almost ready to go back to work. I don't have an addictive personalty so when I can't afford the pot I don't jones, nor do I have any interest in using something stronger to kill pain..that defeats the purpose...I want to know where I messed up.
There is a methodone clinic here in town...Know what its primary purpose is? To get people off all the percs, oxys, and cets the fucking doctors over prescribed to people in pain, to boost the profits of the drug companies so the docs receive a royalty. Many people are worse off now, not only are they addicted to this s**t...it doesn't heal...it masks the pain so one does things they should not be physically going. Then when the the pain killer wears off they've reinjured or made matters worse for themselves. They created an epidemic here and now many of those drugs are illegal to prescribe. (not to mention the crime waves at pharmacies and home invasions)
As for playing while high, personally, makes no difference unless I get blasted...then I don't play.

     
  30-Apr-12, 18:25   #60
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sadamman 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
lol i'm not a genius or something. i am a medical graduate that's why i know this stuff.
but hav to admit that's partly because i'm from a third world country.
here if u dont have a good education, its hard to get a good job


Modest. Like a true genius. All bow to supernoob. Worship Worship Worship

     
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