Joined: Feb '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 41 (M)
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hey guys played a horse freeroll i never played razz before i only know that the low hand wins !!!
PokerStars Game #16574702302: Tournament #83583856, Freeroll HORSE (Razz Limit) - Level III (40/80) - 2008/04/08 - 07:58:24 (ET) Table '83583856 429' 8-max Seat 1: eseerf (1123 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: klajae (2983 in chips) Seat 3: beby1923 (2389 in chips) Seat 4: bubbelinchen (3188 in chips) Seat 5: Nacco (1652 in chips) Seat 6: th€_6th$€n$€ (1224 in chips) Seat 7: gerwig73 (1385 in chips) is sitting out Seat 8: spursfan01 (1419 in chips) eseerf: posts the ante 8 klajae: posts the ante 8 beby1923: posts the ante 8 bubbelinchen: posts the ante 8 Nacco: posts the ante 8 th€_6th$€n$€: posts the ante 8 gerwig73: posts the ante 8 spursfan01: posts the ante 8 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to eseerf Dealt to klajae Dealt to beby1923 Dealt to bubbelinchen Dealt to Nacco Dealt to th€_6th$€n$€ [4s Tc 5d] Dealt to gerwig73 Dealt to spursfan01 gerwig73: brings in for 12 spursfan01: calls 12 eseerf: folds klajae: calls 12 beby1923: raises 28 to 40 bubbelinchen: calls 40 Nacco: calls 40 th€_6th$€n$€: calls 40 gerwig73: folds spursfan01: calls 28 klajae: calls 28 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to klajae Dealt to beby1923 Dealt to bubbelinchen Dealt to Nacco Dealt to th€_6th$€n$€ [4s Tc 5d] Dealt to spursfan01 beby1923: bets 40 bubbelinchen: calls 40 Nacco: raises 40 to 80 th€_6th$€n$€: raises 40 to 120 spursfan01: folds klajae: folds beby1923: raises 40 to 160 Betting is capped bubbelinchen: folds Nacco: calls 80 th€_6th$€n$€: calls 40 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to beby1923 [2h 4h] Dealt to Nacco [5h 2s] Dealt to th€_6th$€n$€ [4s Tc 5d As] th€_6th$€n$€: checks beby1923: bets 80 Nacco: raises 80 to 160 th€_6th$€n$€: calls 160 beby1923: calls 80 *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to beby1923 [2h 4h Js] Dealt to Nacco [5h 2s 9h] Dealt to th€_6th$€n$€ [4s Tc 5d As 6c] th€_6th$€n$€: checks beby1923: checks Nacco: bets 80 th€_6th$€n$€: raises 80 to 160 beby1923: calls 160 Nacco: calls 80 *** RIVER *** Dealt to th€_6th$€n$€ [4s Tc 5d As 6c 7d] th€_6th$€n$€: bets 80 beby1923: calls 80 Nacco: calls 80 *** SHOW DOWN *** th€_6th$€n$€: shows [4s Tc 5d As 6c 7d Jd] (Lo: 7,6,5,4,A) beby1923: mucks hand Nacco: mucks hand th€_6th$€n$€ collected 2036 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2036 | Rake 0 Seat 1: eseerf folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 2: klajae folded on the 4th Street Seat 3: beby1923 mucked [6h Ah 2h 4h Js 2c Td] Seat 4: bubbelinchen folded on the 4th Street Seat 5: Nacco mucked [Ts Ac 5h 2s 9h 5s Qd] Seat 6: th€_6th$€n$€ showed [4s Tc 5d As 6c 7d Jd] and won (2036) with Lo: 7,6,5,4,A Seat 7: gerwig73 folded on the 3rd Street Seat 8: spursfan01 folded on the 4th Street
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Croatia
Age: 48 (M)
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Only thing that i would do different is bet on 5th street. You did got lucky though with both opponents getting pairs on 6th. Pokerstars HORSE tournament... I miss them sometimes. People register for HORSE tourneys without knowing how to play all games. LOL
yea i would of dropped that hand preflop, starting with T high is not a good place to be.
you got very lucky, especially considering the other up cards were quite low meaning you were probably behind and it was going to be difficult to catch up
apart from the preflop round of betting i think you did nothing wrong per se,
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Croatia
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1308
Dont feel bad about your hand pick it is not that bad. You did what probably they would do on that level at tourney. It is not good hand but it is not totally worthless. You won the hand after all didnt you. One thing about Stud games, not including 5 c ards stud, is that you have to pick on first 3 cards is this your playing hand or not. And you did missed or i dont know what, those low cards others were getting so it was little ambitious to go into hand, but as i said it is a tourney level 3. Those first 3 cards are important because you have to compare your hand with others 3rd to see are you having any chance to get that hand if not, fold it. You are showing your 5, and there are two 2`s, 3, 5, 7. which means low cards are scarcer and you dont have an ace.
Razz starting hands are probably the easiest to choose
if with your first 3 cards you have a:
a 3 low raise/reraise same with 4 low 5 low i start calling completing or calling a raise with a 6 and 7 low 8 and nine low are maybe playable depending on position other players up cards and other players beting action
10 low and above are only playable from very late position with folds lround to you, in this situation you are raising hopefully just the bring in and one or two others who havent acted, and only if your up card is much lower than theirs.
this is just a very simple guide, and it doesnt really take into account all the things you should, like predobar said you have to see what other peoples up cards in razz games are, you also have to consider your table image, other peoples at the tablesplaying style, the betting actino before you and finally and most importantly stack size, you can go a long time without finding many playable hands in razz, and it can sometimes be a wise idea to drop the hand no matter how good it started on fourth st if you catch a picture card. So to follow this guide you would need to be quite deep stacked, of course as soon as you start to get shorter stacked, either because you lost a few big hands or the blinds are going up its almost always better to make a stand, even if your odds arent great, than simple blind or ante out
