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Hi all,
Probably a dumb question, but is there any issue with her signing up from the same address. I know we wouldn't be able to do the same offers, which is fine, she wants to do the casino offers. And she can have them.
Well if you are living together ... I think she won't. If rules haven't changed, as far as I know, I remember that this question was also asked in the past and the response was that you are only allowed to create one account per IP. But I'm pretty sure Tony will give you a more accutared answer.
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Posted by DaMessiah666: Well if you are living together ... I think she won't. If rules haven't changed, as far as I know, I remember that this question was also asked in the past and the response was that you are only allowed to create one account per IP. But I'm pretty sure Tony will give you a more accutared answer.
Just out of curiosity and the fact my son is about to turn 18 and enjoys poker also. If I had two separate computers in the same household would he be able to join BRM or some of the same poker sites I play on. Truth is, there's only one poker site, but would like to know.
Posted by Greenmohave: Just out of curiosity and the fact my son is about to turn 18 and enjoys poker also. If I had two separate computers in the same household would he be able to join BRM or some of the same poker sites I play on. Truth is, there's only one poker site, but would like to know.
Even if you had 4 computers at home, they all are sharing the same IP so, the answer should be no. Besides, I've read (I don't know if it's really true or not) that some sites detect if two different players are playing from the same IP, in order to avoid an "easy collution". Of course you can make collution with a friend of yours in Japan using Skype but ... you know what I mean.
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Posted by Greenmohave:
Posted by DaMessiah666: Well if you are living together ... I think she won't. If rules haven't changed, as far as I know, I remember that this question was also asked in the past and the response was that you are only allowed to create one account per IP. But I'm pretty sure Tony will give you a more accutared answer.
Just out of curiosity and the fact my son is about to turn 18 and enjoys poker also. If I had two separate computers in the same household would he be able to join BRM or some of the same poker sites I play on. Truth is, there's only one poker site, but would like to know.
It's best to both check the T&C on a particular site AS WELL as ask their customer support BEFORE creating the new account.
FWIW: I used to play on PKR at my dads place, we'd both play at the same time (never the same tables) from the same IP. We also used to play FTP from the same IP. Some sites explicitly ban it - however, most seem to allow it - so long as you're never sitting together, tournaments are usually the exception - you'll be able to join the same MTT on most sites.
But definitely run it by CS before you create a new account, that way it's on record straight away - which is infinitely better than trying to explain yourself 6 months down the track after security freezes both the accounts.
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Posted by DaMessiah666: Besides, I've read (I don't know if it's really true or not) that some sites detect if two different players are playing from the same IP
They certainly do. Although - not sure it has that much to do with collusion - it's more about breaking the multi-accounting rule as far as i know. Which can be minor cheating (such as changing your screen name, getting rakeback, etc) to major cheating - joining the same game with multiple accounts, etc.
It happened to myself on FTP - when I was living with my dad - we all started on FTP.org (play money site) and later found no deposit bonuses and attempted to make real money accounts. The NDB page we came across said only 'if you've never had a real money FTP account' which we hadn't. But the .org accounts didn't allow for real money, so we created new, .com, accounts for the bonuses.. It didn't help that my dad and his partner stuffed up a couple accounts during creation and ended up with about 5 each lol..
Anyway - they definitely detected all the accounts connected to our IP and froze them all. However - we weren't really breaking any rules, they were just doing a security check. We were able to provide a bunch of ID each (quite a bit actually, bank statements, bills, drivers licenses, etc) and they gave us each one of our .com accounts to play with - and that was fine, we were all allowed to play after that.
But with 100% certainty - ALL sites will detect multiple logins from the same IP.
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Posted by windy88: i think ur ok to have the two accounts on most sites but one will lose out on the bounes when u sign up ,
That is an excellent point. Most sites DO allow multiple accounts within a household, but you're right - pretty much every bonus on every site (1st deposit, reloads, sometimes rakeback, etc) has T&C that state only 1 per household..
And given that to win in online poker, you pretty much need to be capitalising on rakeback, reload bonuses, etc - as well as general winnings - I suppose it's not the most fantastic idea for your whole household to play the same site - as you would essentially be burning money.
The exception would probably be if you're an MTT player - the amount that bonuses/RB contributes towards you bottom line is a lot less for tournament players, relative to Cash or even SNG.
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I am no computer wizz, but surly a decent phone will have a diffrent IP, or hook up IP, so that some of the above problems are overcome. I know I have played on my account from other computers and a few friends have used mine to play their accounts.
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Posted by B1gfoot: I am no computer wizz, but surly a decent phone will have a diffrent IP, or hook up IP, so that some of the above problems are overcome. I know I have played on my account from other computers and a few friends have used mine to play their accounts.
i know what ur saying their but yes u and ur freinds may share computers because accounts have been made so ip,s wont matter, but to sign up u need an adress and that will be sheared ,my girl car,nt join as we share bank account and can only use one visa, for one account ,,,they will pick up on adress ,
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i don't quite see the reason to have a second account if you do not plan to get the same bonuses (you mentioned she wants only casino offers)- you just take those offers which you haven't taken yet, and your gf plays under your name in an online casino she wants...what's the point of having a separate account?
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So the rule is with same ip can't happen? What about the other security requirements like bank account photograph personal information that's not suffice?
I understand in a way the policy coz even if some people are honest others will try to use this as an unethical advantage but well..
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I dont think you can have a second one from the same house. Most of the sites are saying in their rules its one account per household, so if that is written in BRM rules no point for even asking
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Posted by Mober: I dont think you can have a second one from the same house. Most of the sites are saying in their rules its one account per household, so if that is written in BRM rules no point for even asking
I know my friend created his account from my computer and even signsin and plays from here all the time. Of course we both can't play at the same time, but I was wondering if one computer is online using the phone service and the other computer is a wireless would that allow two players to play simultaneously?
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by Greenmohave:
Posted by DaMessiah666: Well if you are living together ... I think she won't. If rules haven't changed, as far as I know, I remember that this question was also asked in the past and the response was that you are only allowed to create one account per IP. But I'm pretty sure Tony will give you a more accutared answer.
Just out of curiosity and the fact my son is about to turn 18 and enjoys poker also. If I had two separate computers in the same household would he be able to join BRM or some of the same poker sites I play on. Truth is, there's only one poker site, but would like to know.
It's best to both check the T&C on a particular site AS WELL as ask their customer support BEFORE creating the new account.
FWIW: I used to play on PKR at my dads place, we'd both play at the same time (never the same tables) from the same IP. We also used to play FTP from the same IP. Some sites explicitly ban it - however, most seem to allow it - so long as you're never sitting together, tournaments are usually the exception - you'll be able to join the same MTT on most sites.
But definitely run it by CS before you create a new account, that way it's on record straight away - which is infinitely better than trying to explain yourself 6 months down the track after security freezes both the accounts.
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Posted by DaMessiah666: Besides, I've read (I don't know if it's really true or not) that some sites detect if two different players are playing from the same IP
They certainly do. Although - not sure it has that much to do with collusion - it's more about breaking the multi-accounting rule as far as i know. Which can be minor cheating (such as changing your screen name, getting rakeback, etc) to major cheating - joining the same game with multiple accounts, etc.
It happened to myself on FTP - when I was living with my dad - we all started on FTP.org (play money site) and later found no deposit bonuses and attempted to make real money accounts. The NDB page we came across said only 'if you've never had a real money FTP account' which we hadn't. But the .org accounts didn't allow for real money, so we created new, .com, accounts for the bonuses.. It didn't help that my dad and his partner stuffed up a couple accounts during creation and ended up with about 5 each lol..
Anyway - they definitely detected all the accounts connected to our IP and froze them all. However - we weren't really breaking any rules, they were just doing a security check. We were able to provide a bunch of ID each (quite a bit actually, bank statements, bills, drivers licenses, etc) and they gave us each one of our .com accounts to play with - and that was fine, we were all allowed to play after that.
But with 100% certainty - ALL sites will detect multiple logins from the same IP.
I had forgotten about my friend who signed up on the same sight I'm on and he did it here from my home using the same computer.
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If it's clear that it's two different persons and one of them doesn't take no deposit poker offers, then it shouldn't be a problem, so if you say she's going to take casino offers, and only you take no deposit poker offers, then it should be fine.
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If you live in the same address that will not be possible. It's the same of having son (more than 18, of course) and father living in the same house and both wanting to have mobster acount. It's understandable that BRM keeps this type of limitation, we have to defend from those who may not have good intention if there was the possibility of having two acounts registered in the same address and accesing BRM through the same IP.
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It'll be clear, she'll register with her license it'll just show that we live in the same house. And definitely she's not interested in Poker and I'm not interested in the Casino offers, so we definitely won't be trying to double dip any offers.
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Thats a good thing you, will be able to do this. But try to keep an eye on her, in case she get carried away and start depositing from any joint accounts
