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Let me set the scene... I play poker at a few different venues threw out Edinburgh (nuts poker league,Red Tooth poker) etc etc. So i was talking to one of my poker buds about online poker, the topic mainly being Pokerstars and if it was possible to not deposit but still make enough money to make a withdrawel.The obvious answer is Yes, if your good enough ofcourse its possible, but can i??? So to take that alittle bit further and keeping in the tradition of poker/gambling and prop bets we made a bet of our own, or rather i was given a challenge. CHALLENGE-RULES.... Make an account on Pokerstars which i did in the first week of Aug.. Make no deposit which i haven't, and play for 2months making enough money to withdraw.. which is $50... Allowed to only play freeroles which is obvious because i am not aloud to deposit (laughed at my friend) When i cash in the freerole i can take that and play any games of my choice, sounds simple really... At this point my friend spinned the challenge on its head He says $50 dollers is not enough since he has put a bottle of OLD PULTENY 30yr old bottle of Whisky on it (255.00 pound) fair enough... so its $250 $ from $0.00,. I have accepted ofcourse & in return will place my bottle on the table. Exciting stuff i will give it my best go , wish me luck
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for what its worth; good luck.
But to be honest - I really don't see the point of $0 - $XX challenges.. just a waste of time IMHO. Sure you can play freerolls for a while until you finally build enough to take "shots" at micro stakes. But seriously, why bother? You're from the UK and you're 31 years old, I'm sure US$50 is easily affordable for you. IMHO you're much better off trying to build from $50 to $1k or whatever, skip the months of freerolls and ultra-micros shots.
Unless you've actually got a real prop-bet running where you you actually stand to gain some good money from starting at $0, my advise is don't bother. Just make a small deposit and go from there. Save yourself a lot of headache and grinding.
------------ Although: A 30yr old bottle of whiskey would be pretty sweet
------------ Oh also - if you're used to playing pub-league poker, prepare to be out-matched.. I played pub leagues for years before moving online. The average online grinder, even at 2c/4c levels will completely destroy your average pub-league player.
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$0 to $250 in 2 months? i think you will lose not saying this is impossible, but i think odds are stacked against you- with the original offer ($0-$50) for a 250 pounds bottle of whisky probably you could have taken this on. good luck anyways- update us here- will be interesting to follow your progress. guess you have to take all of the freerolls-feeders to those saturday/sunday $1000 guaranteed freerolls and then just hope that you cash in them...
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this is a really interesting challenge please make sure you keep us posted..
also i think some people are missing your point here..i'm sure you could deposit if you wanted but i think that the challenge here is to see how much you can cash out without depositing, obviously you know its going to be a painstaking task but hey a challenge isnt meant to be easy
ive cashed a few times in the BRM freerolls, also if you go to private tournaments there is a lot listed but you should have a look at the password 1s then just google for the passwords, ive done this on many occasion and cashed and got tourney tickets etc.
good luck , i think you should make a thread to keep us all updated.
p.s. whiskey is stinking,lol, if it was me it would have been £250 worth of tennants
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Good luck for your challenge with your poker expirience it is no problem to reach that. You only need time and a tilt protection You can deposit 10$ to play the 100k freerolls for a month and you mustn´t play real money games with this money.
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Well, it sure isn't impossible but it'll be really hard! I make all of my poker money from freerolls but don't do what I do... I play at PartyPoker so I don't really know what the stakes are over at stars but anyways... I'm just to impatient so when I get to $0.20 (which is the minimum to bring to a limit hold'em table) I just try to quickly double it up by playing cash and most of the times that doesn't work. But those few times when I've been patient enough to save up to $1 from freerolls, I put that on cash and double up a few times and then when I reach around $10 I start playing $1 MTT. Last time I cashed out, I withdrew about $100 I think and it took me just over a month to get there.
Anyway, my advise is: Don't be to impatient to save your few cents before putting them on the table.
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i dont think this a good bet to take to be honest.
really cant be bothered with the feerolls on stars tried to build a free bankroll on stars myself but without a no deposit bonus it seemed far to tough
but i could be wrong and youll be enjoying retirement with a lovely bottle of whiskey. good luck though
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Cheers for your comments folks
Will keep updated as best i can "iplaynakd2 is username for stars, 26 hours of play and as for the $$$ side of things, it stands @ $0.00
haha, but on the flipside of that, got the tickets needed for the saturday/sunday weekly round 2, One in NL Hold-em and the other in 7card stud happy days
From now till then its happy grinding in the Stars League/BRM & any other freerole that is on offer
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[QUOTE]Posted by jessthehuman: for what its worth; good luck.
But to be honest - I really don't see the point of $0 - $XX challenges.. just a waste of time IMHO. Sure you can play freerolls for a while until you finally build enough to take "shots" at micro stakes. But seriously, why bother? You're from the UK and you're 31 years old, I'm sure US$50 is easily affordable for you. IMHO you're much better off trying to build from $50 to $1k or whatever, skip the months of freerolls and ultra-micros shots.
Unless you've actually got a real prop-bet running where you you actually stand to gain some good money from starting at $0, my advise is don't bother. Just make a small deposit and go from there. Save yourself a lot of headache and grinding.
This is good advise for normal or average player . If you know ELJEFE ( ? ), Jammy or you have skill like him you can continue your try If you very serious built poker career , follow this advise. Good luck
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GL with your challenge, but I think its really hard to do this on Pokerstars from ground up. Not many valuable freerolls at PS for building up from 0$. Even the BRM freerolls have a huge player field and only 117 places paid. Tough competition. Maybe you should look at the private tab in tourneys and search for some good private freerolls.
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GL with the challenge.
I have to admit that doing this on PS will be very difficult. I left PS 2 years ago as there were to much players at their freerolls (the relation of players vs pricemoney is very poor) Also there are a lot of gamblers on their freerolls which means they are all in at the beginning and a few of them gets a huge stack. So you have the following options :
- do the same, go several times all in and cross your fingers (you might be lucky) and be a bigstack in the middle staduim of the turney, then use your pokerskills.
- play very tight at the start and hope you will not loose a hand with a bad beat. Even then it will be hard not to get into the FT.
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Posted by jammy30: 26 hours of play and as for the $$$ side of things, it stands @ $0.00
well that leaves you with only $250 to go will be interesting to see your progress- i told u right from the start that i think you will fail- but really deep inside i would want to see you win! nah just trying to look nice no really good luck with your challenge, don't give up- and update as often as possible
GL man....0-250 is quite difficult for 2 months in pokerstars but if you really have the skills its not impossible because if you can take down one of there weekly round 2 tourney its quite a big BR already and making it 250 is just a matter of luck and time.....
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Posted by jessthehuman: for what its worth; good luck.
But to be honest - I really don't see the point of $0 - $XX challenges.. just a waste of time IMHO. Sure you can play freerolls for a while until you finally build enough to take "shots" at micro stakes. But seriously, why bother? You're from the UK and you're 31 years old, I'm sure US$50 is easily affordable for you. IMHO you're much better off trying to build from $50 to $1k or whatever, skip the months of freerolls and ultra-micros shots.
Unless you've actually got a real prop-bet running where you you actually stand to gain some good money from starting at $0, my advise is don't bother. Just make a small deposit and go from there. Save yourself a lot of headache and grinding.
------------ Although: A 30yr old bottle of whiskey would be pretty sweet
------------ Oh also - if you're used to playing pub-league poker, prepare to be out-matched.. I played pub leagues for years before moving online. The average online grinder, even at 2c/4c levels will completely destroy your average pub-league player.
+1 to this. For the amount of time you would waste playing freerolls, you could easily be using to play cash/mtt/sngs and making more money. Sure it's nice to win bragging rights, but the time you'd need to invest making this happen just doesn't seem worth it. Couple that with the fact that you'd have to run extremely good to make anything from the few cents you'd win playing freerolls, it's highly unlikely you'd even have a chance of winning the bet.
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Posted by jammy30: Cheers for your comments folks
Will keep updated as best i can "iplaynakd2 is username for stars, 26 hours of play and as for the $$$ side of things, it stands @ $0.00
haha, but on the flipside of that, got the tickets needed for the saturday/sunday weekly round 2, One in NL Hold-em and the other in 7card stud happy days
From now till then its happy grinding in the Stars League/BRM & any other freerole that is on offer
I am wondering if your already made any progress.
I just remembered that there was a FT-pro (Chris Ferguson I believe) that made the challenge from 0$ up to 10000 $
It took him almost a year and the most difficult part was in the beginning to get up to 100$
and keep in mind, he knew how to play poker and the freerolls a couple of years ago were less crowded.
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I hear what you are all sayin, waste of time with the free roles etc etc, at the end of the day its for a bit of fun. We all challenge ourselfs in poker one way or another and to some people this challenge seems a waste of time but to me a challenge is a challenge and i just want to see if i can do it, and in the process get myself i nice bottle of whisky
Before my last account on pokerstars was hacked i had a few good results, 4th in the 12k G,taking $873 if i remember correct, 6th in the BIG $8.80 $25k G taking home just shy of $1500 so in that respect i have some skills but there is and always will be room for improvment...
Challenge UpDate.... Of to a good start in the bankrole thats has just began
5 tickets under my belt so far, 3 from the Hubble, 1 from Sagans (HORSE) & 1 from Cassinis (STUD)
And 5c from the 6am BRM freerole, so i am off the mark, feels good to get the account of the zero mark no matter how small the cash was
So 5 tickets down 11 to go to beable to play the 2 second round freeroles a week on the sat and sunday Thanks again ppl for your comments, and for the people who think its a waste of time and i will fail this, please i ask you kindly, if you have any further advice for me please feel free to share it
Further updates will follow
------------ @thefly131 I do make a point of getting up at strange hours to play the freerole with less entrants, the 2am & 6am BRM there is only a couple thousand ppl at these times, i would like to add i am not taking this challenge atall lightly, i am fully committed and am putting alot of hours into this 4days down and ruffly 41hrs of play, thats commitment to the freerole haha, i agree its going to be vry difficult and if i dont manage to succeed in this atleast at the end of the day i no i have put the hrs in and been 100% committed. There no half measures when i set my sights on a poker goal, take it easy m8
------------ @noonlion i am currently putting in between 8-12hrs a day on this, 6months ago i decided to play poker on a kinda full time basis between online & the nuts poker league/redtooth poker league and playing in a casino in my home town playing on small stake tables @ the weekends with a group of regulars that i have become close friends with @ and away from the tables, aswell as this challenge i also play on 888/pkr and Party Poker so all in all i am currently doing about 10-15hrs daily including my normal med stake tourneys and ring games....
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Jammy. Playing in Edinburgh! Do we assume you are Scottish? and therefore if so, the good old stereotype comes good and provides some context to your challenge!!! Spend no money and try and make some! Either with or without the stereotype, good luck and hope you do well.
When i cash in the freerole i can take that and play any games of my choice, sounds simple really...
He says $50 dollers is not enough since he has put a bottle of OLD PULTENY 30yr old bottle of Whisky on it (255.00 pound) fair enough... so its $250 $ from $0.00,. I have accepted ofcourse & in return will place my bottle on the table.
i will give it my best go , wish me luck 
not saying this is impossible, but i think odds are stacked against you- with the original offer ($0-$50) for a 250 pounds bottle of whisky probably you could have taken this on. good luck anyways- update us here- will be interesting to follow your progress. guess you have to take all of the freerolls-feeders to those saturday/sunday $1000 guaranteed freerolls and then just hope that you cash in them...
haha, but on the flipside of that, got the tickets needed for the saturday/sunday weekly round 2, One in NL Hold-em and the other in 7card stud happy days
