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Full Tilt Poker has announced that it will retrospectively de-track all players from their affiliates Even though the Full Tilt software and player database has been acquired by new owners, Full Tilt Poker has stated that they do not consider themselves to be liable for any previous affiliate relationships.
Poker Affiliates was the old FTP's marketing strategy. the fact that PS does not wish to honor these deals is understandable in my point of view. PS has been very clear and informative that they will not be honoring them so that allows the players to think if they wish to play on FTP or not. If you are really offended from this, they when FTP opens, hit the cashout button and never look back. I dont think that PS should be locked into agreements that Ray Bitar had set up in the passed.
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That messes thing up. What will happen to alll those that have got deals like rakeback from specific sites? Are they gonna keep the rakeback? Are they gonna give the players the choice to opt in, in a rake back deal? And thats not the only thing. Specific tournaments that were tracked, now it wont be any more. I wonder what will happen to the money, affiliates had invested in, like BRM in freerolls.
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probably bad news to many bigger affiliates, but in reality when full tilt went into the sh1t hole i doubt they had big expectations anyway- most of them just had to accept that this source of income is gone...now when pokerstars came with the news that they are buying tilt, affiliates maybe were hoping for good news, but only hoping, nothing more imo
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Posted by Mober: That messes thing up. What will happen to alll those that have got deals like rakeback from specific sites? Are they gonna keep the rakeback? Are they gonna give the players the choice to opt in, in a rake back deal? And thats not the only thing. Specific tournaments that were tracked, now it wont be any more. I wonder what will happen to the money, affiliates had invested in, like BRM in freerolls.
if i remember right, not looked up what is going on in the poker world recently, they will structure it pretty much the same as PS do, not surprising.
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I really don't know if i should return to Full Tilt Poker because they change a lot of rules... rakeback... promotions... and i really think when will be the next black friday :X
Joined: Nov '11
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Yes - the option of Black Friday is the strongest fear. I wasn't a player on FTP, but now I will try to start... maybe I will suit in no-deposit bonus for new player or som? But how can I play there, when I will be in fear that my money could be frozen by FBI ?
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In essence the stars vip ssytem is better than the fix 27% rakeback deal that ftp used to had, but this is valid only for players that generate tons of rake...
The fact that the rakeback deal is gone will affect the majority of cash players that did not made so much rake to qualify to the highest levels of the vip sytem.
Joined: Feb '11
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Full Tilt was never everr going to be the same as it was before and I dont think anyone should everr try to think that it would be. As usual anything that seemed too good to be true probably is and lets face it FTP probably was far better than anything else in its day
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Can't expect them to honor previous agreements with affiliates, but they'll develop their own and yes it might be simular to what PS has or they might be totally different. The main thing would be to keep the gaming structures the same and use the software that was FT's. maybe that's not enough for some players, but I'll be happy just to be playing elsewhere other then Bravada or Carbon.
Remember this is only my opinion and everyone should get one1 Lol
Posted by Mysik86: Yes - the option of Black Friday is the strongest fear. I wasn't a player on FTP, but now I will try to start... maybe I will suit in no-deposit bonus for new player or som? But how can I play there, when I will be in fear that my money could be frozen by FBI ?
if you dont want to play in fear of the Department Of Justice (not the FBI) Then simply stay away from websites that offer poker in markets that are currently unregulated (ie United States). The fact that old full tilt accounting decided to disguise gambling transactions so that us players could deposit and withdraw is something that was done in the past.
I am more than sure that a black friday 2 will not happen to pokerstars, or fulltilt. I feel that black friday happened because there were a lot of grey areas when it came to how to operate a poker site for US players and since pokerstars has been a large part of the first black friday process they should have learned their lesson.
If full tilt poker opens and they dont offer service to US players (which i dont believe they will) there is no worry about the US DOJ taking your money again.
Stars know what their doin and they seem to run a damn fine poker site in my opinion.
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Posted by WinAllDay: if you dont want to play in fear of the Department Of Justice (not the FBI) Then simply stay away from websites that offer poker in markets that are currently unregulated (ie United States). The fact that old full tilt accounting decided to disguise gambling transactions so that us players could deposit and withdraw is something that was done in the past.
But what can I do, when I live in country, which have unregulated law about poker? In Poland playing poker for prize (it doesn't matter if the prize is $1000 or 2 beers) is illegal. Of course, the police and courts not pursuit the players too strictly, but if I will won $1M from poker, I would be on crosshair of Polish law.
