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We all know how ppl can get themselves into sticky situations when money is being fronted for any form of gambling or game that has an element of luck..
Choosing the right person to stake you is your responsibility.. You simply don't choose someone who threatens you, isn't patient and doesn't accept that bad runs happen...

     
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I got good opinion about staking. However i wouldnt like to have any bussiness with you. Your attitude seems very bad and disrespectful to say the least.

Your stats seem fine so gl with getting staked.

Btw. this is a staking thread. Cheers.

To add up. If you are rly interested in selling your shares there are lot of sites that offer only these kind of stakes. On most you have to invest little amount to prove you are legit, after that you ll have no problem selling your shares fast and with decent amount of security.

     
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My dam internet went off for four hours....was freakin....anyway I'll transfer 10 BI's=33.00 in about 1 hour.

ok It's done $33.00 USD trnasferred...let me know if you received.

BTW I know who the regs are here and this is np, not even a second thought. Smile

Edited by rbdflyboy (28 November 2012 @ 10:07 GMT)


     
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I might be interested in .. something like 5 shares Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile lol
I'm at school now so I will deposit on FT later today and transfer $16.5 to your account..
If it's ok?

     
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Is this a general thread for creating BAPs or just your own thread?
Just asking as I'd be interested in creating a FTP BAP as well as I have no own BR there

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by retribution:
Posted by fcumred:
BAP is staking. whatever way you want to go around it, its staking.



Well whatever you want to call it, I'm not some random. I'm a forum reg who's been here for over a year and I've got a proven win-rate.



Fair enough, and I may be tempted to Buy a piece.

My only problem is the s**t you've given other people ( undeservedly ) when I gave them money to play poker with. I gave them that as a gift and you tore into Pochui which was well out of order.

Now your here doing exactly what you claimed he was doing ( which in fact he wasn't ) and asking for a stake...

Thats why I've got a problem with you coming out and asking for a stake, because you give crap to everyone else about it.


lmfao,
i would join in but......

Posted by retribution:
Every time I see a thread like this, it pisses me off more and more. Okay, I get that your forum regs. I get that you've built rep and trust. Kudos to you for sticking around. That doesn't entitle you to beg/borrow/get staked. This isn't a staking forum. Staking isn't allowed, and we all know it, yet people INSIST on doing so anyways. No disrespect intended, but if you can't survive on the Diamond FREE FREAKING BANKROLLS Diamond this site gives you, as well as the chance to earn points and EARN (yes EARN) more money, I don't think there's hope for you pokerwise.

Sorry for going off on you guys, but come on, you're both regs, you should fucking know better. Brain up and cut the s**t and set a good fucking example, otherwise you're just opening the door for more begging/whining threads to pollute the forums.




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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Is this a general thread for creating BAPs or just your own thread?
Just asking as I'd be interested in creating a FTP BAP as well as I have no own BR there


what sort of thing were you thinking of doing? id be intrested in buying into somthing like this, see what happens

Edited by takingdrugs (28 November 2012 @ 13:42 GMT)


     
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rbdflyboy


Yup, recieved, 10 shares reserved thanks Smile

Holding onto 20 shares for jess, and 5 for djpremier which means there's 25 total left.

Okay, on another note I KNOW I have never been easy on people posting "staking" threads, especially pochui. As I said previously, I feel bad for going off on pochui, and I apologize. He's a reg, and didn't deserve it.

However I can't pretend to apologize for going off on the 1 post randoms who stroll in here trying to beg for free money. Perhaps I am the only one that has the opinion that it's annoying. It's kind of like walking into a liquor store and some scruffy guy asking for your change, versus a friend coming to you asking for a loan.

I may sometimes have an off-putting attitude, but I always do my best to try and contribute as much as I can.

*Edit* Admin, if you read this, can I get the ability to edit my OP to keep this thread clean?

     
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Posted by retribution:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by rbdflyboy:
I'm thinking of 10 BI's...that would be $33.00. Will have to do plyr-plyr trans at FT. r u still sevendeuce?


Hang on.. are you saying he's got more than one account at FTP ?

The username you say he's used in the past isn't the same as the one he's saying you should transfer money to.

ALARM BELLLS !!!!


No, I'm retribution1979 on FT, I'm Sevendeuce79 on PS.

And minime112? it's written all over your screen shots..

     
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Posted by takingdrugs:

Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Is this a general thread for creating BAPs or just your own thread?
Just asking as I'd be interested in creating a FTP BAP as well as I have no own BR there


what sort of thing were you thinking of doing? id be intrested in buying into somthing like this, see what happens


The original plan of going from step 1 to step 3 and then play a $26 SNG is pretty good,but not really more profitable than a proper SNG grind.. it's higher variance and thus if you run good your reward will be bigger,but because of variance there is also a bigger chance of finishing in the negative than when grinding normal SNGs. It's like the difference from SNGs to MTTs in terms of variance (although this plan is alot less variance than MTTs,but you get what I mean).
The expectation of retribution to gain 80 Step 2 Tickets and up to 50 Step 3 tickets from 100 Step 1 tickets is a big,big overestimation (it's simple maths,and no,a samplesize of 200 SNGs is NOT a "proven winrate",sorry if this comes harsh,but I'd like to keep it at the truth)
Yes,they may be piss easy to beat,but with the mentioned expectation we are talking about a ROI of like 60%.. it might be possible to have that ROI in playmoney STTs,but here,no.. lol
All also comes down to the most important games - the $26 matrix SNGs where I dont expect him to be a winning player longterm (from what I've seen in his videos etc. his pushing ranges are too tight,especially at super turbos with that structure thats a killer).
Again,sorry if this comes harsh,I'm just realistic

Edited by BeMyATMplz (28 November 2012 @ 16:40 GMT)


     
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by takingdrugs:

Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Is this a general thread for creating BAPs or just your own thread?
Just asking as I'd be interested in creating a FTP BAP as well as I have no own BR there


what sort of thing were you thinking of doing? id be intrested in buying into somthing like this, see what happens


The original plan of going from step 1 to step 3 and then play a $26 SNG is pretty good,but not really more profitable than a proper SNG grind.. it's higher variance and thus if you run good your reward will be bigger,but because of variance there is also a bigger chance of finishing in the negative than when grinding normal SNGs. It's like the difference from SNGs to MTTs in terms of variance (although this plan is alot less variance than MTTs,but you get what I mean).
The expectation of retribution to gain 80 Step 2 Tickets and up to 50 Step 3 tickets from 100 Step 1 tickets is a big,big overestimation (it's simple maths,and no,a samplesize of 200 SNGs is NOT a "proven winrate",sorry if this comes harsh,but I'd like to keep it at the truth)
Yes,they may be piss easy to beat,but with the mentioned expectation we are talking about a ROI of like 60%.. it might be possible to have that ROI in playmoney STTs,but here,no.. lol
All also comes down to the most important games - the $26 matrix SNGs where I dont expect him to be a winning player longterm (from what I've seen in his videos etc. his pushing ranges are too tight,especially at super turbos with that structure thats a killer).
Again,sorry if this comes harsh,I'm just realistic


They aren't over-estimations really. Due to the skewed payout structure of the Steps, it's relatively easy to have such a high turn-around rate on them. A typical 9man steps looks like:

1 - 2 Next step
3 - 5 Re-try
6 - Small cash prize. About half of the buyin.
7-9 nadda.

Due to how stupid wide peoples shove/fold ranges are, they are so easy to beat. Sure variance can be expected, but not that much. Yeah there'll be bigger swings once I hit the 26's, but I'm 100% confident that there will be profit. During the steps portion, you can almost litterally sit out and get at least a re-try, thus why I'm confident it'll be a good run. Absolute Worse case scenario, the BAP should at LEAST break even.

As for my ranges, I'm capable of adjusting based on opponents. I've already taken extensive notes on the "regs" during my playthrough, and my HUD takes care of the rest. Supers are all about adjusting to the dynamics of the table, and I'm fine with that.

As for further proof of my ability, sharkscope me. You can see I've been killing supers for a while now.

lukasb

And minime112? it's written all over your screen shots..

Retribution


Hey, no problem. My gf also plays on FT, and sometimes we'll play a game or 2 together, more like her playing and me wincing when she plays bad lol.

She would be minime. I'll post something funny that happens if we are playing together.

I assume you are referring to http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id...
I posted exactly 1 hand. She wanted to try a super after watching me play them. After that all-in, she said "f**k it" and I finished it for her. I can post further SS of me playing if anyone wants?

I'll just pointedly say it. I've been here over a year, made over 1 thousand posts, and openly posted both my website, my youtube channel and my FT screen shot. All have my real name AND address attached. I'm not here to rip people off for a lousy $198. I have a proven win-rate, and will continue to be a reg here for a long time. Despite my attitude, I like brm and the community here. It's been my home since the FT forums shut down.

I like the people here, thus why I decided to do this BAP. It's win win for everyone involved.


Edited by retribution (28 November 2012 @ 17:28 GMT)


     
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Posted by retribution:
Okay, on another note I KNOW I have never been easy on people posting "staking" threads, especially pochui. As I said previously, I feel bad for going off on pochui, and I apologize. He's a reg, and didn't deserve it.

ok that's fair- apology accepted, lets roll on. btw do u know hitler Confused

     
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Posted by pochui:
Posted by retribution:
Okay, on another note I KNOW I have never been easy on people posting "staking" threads, especially pochui. As I said previously, I feel bad for going off on pochui, and I apologize. He's a reg, and didn't deserve it.

ok that's fair- apology accepted, lets roll on. btw do u know hitler Confused


Lol Big Smile Big Smile I'm a tit head, I know Smile

     
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Actually i was referring to ur screen shots on this thread lol. But ok, not saying anything, just pointing out what i was seeing. wish my wife played poker also... hmm... then again i think i don't lol... wouldn't be MY THING anymore would be ours Disagree

Can't wait to see the results. kick ass Thumbs Up

     
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Posted by lukasb:
Actually i was referring to ur screen shots on this thread lol. But ok, not saying anything, just pointing out what i was seeing. wish my wife played poker also... hmm... then again i think i don't lol... wouldn't be MY THING anymore would be ours Disagree

Can't wait to see the results. kick ass Thumbs Up


Before FT went down, she had RB, I didn't. She didn't play high-volume, so we switched accounts so I could get the RB. After FT came back, minime112(the account with RB I was playing) still had a lot of points and bronze status, so I just kept using it. After my run, I decided to just switch back since she no longer gets RB. Yes I did the run on her account, but since RB is no longer an issue, I'm just going back to using my account (Retribution1979). I guess I should have just come out and said that, but I guess I didn't want to scare people off.

Like I said, it's a good venture. I'm a solid player, and I'm not gunna roll over a lousy $198. If this discourages people from investing, then so be-it.

So to clear things up I am:

Sevendeuce79 on PS
Retribution1979 On ft
Minime112 on FT is my GF, who YES I was playing on her account because of RB pre-shutdown. And post-comeback because of points/edge status.
I'm also Sevendooce79 on PP
Retribution1979 on PKR
Retribution on Yachting (For the love of GOD don't ever play at that crap site).


Edited by retribution (28 November 2012 @ 18:16 GMT)


     
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I may be interested in buying one or two shares from you Retribution. I see you'll do it on FTP, but i need to know some more info, because i've never done this before. How do i make the transfer? When (between a date and another) do you want me to do that transfer? How long will you take to play all the games (when will people be able to receive their increased shares again)? Is the fact of you being a reg mobster enough to make someone like me going to support you on this (even if, in fact, what i am doing is to try to win money without doing nothing, just by investing on you)? Hope you can clarify me so we can advance to business! GL on your game mate, i know you're good at the tables! Blink

     
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Posted by Fakiry:
I may be interested in buying one or two shares from you Retribution. I see you'll do it on FTP, but i need to know some more info, because i've never done this before. How do i make the transfer? When (between a date and another) do you want me to do that transfer? How long will you take to play all the games (when will people be able to receive their increased shares again)? Is the fact of you being a reg mobster enough to make someone like me going to support you on this (even if, in fact, what i am doing is to try to win money without doing nothing, just by investing on you)? Hope you can clarify me so we can advance to business! GL on your game mate, i know you're good at the tables! Blink


You can ship money any time, either on FT or on poker stars.

Thanks for pointing out the fact that I forgot to talk about a time line.

My last run took around a week and a few days. Due to what I think will end up being double the volume, I think It should be done in around 2 weeks. I've got a lot of free time right now, since I've got no projects going on atm aside from videos, so I'll be able to focus on putting in the volume it'll take to do this.

Edited by retribution (28 November 2012 @ 18:56 GMT)


     
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Shipping funds is easy...took less than a minute. The minimum is $1. Only thing that might concern me is the pop up that states one can transfer money to help a friend out but not to withdraw. Understand where they're coming from. A stake is different so I can see some emails going back and forth to the cashier at first. Then again once more ppl ship you funds they may see it as a stake.

     
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regardless of your projections the principle of BAP is what i proposed and am setting up after 3 yrs research with a USP the website is under construction but u knocked what i and many others put on forward on BRM and my thread was busted by admin, yet u r doing the same thing regardless of presentation, well i think it;s totally double standards to every1 who seeked a BAP or buy a piece which goes way back to the early beginnings of poker in usa and is a tradittion that as helped bankroll
many a pro or recreational player, this method gave many the break they needed, so lets live n let live
i don't need BRM really there's many poker forums i link with, but man this ain't fair just coz u s.et out ur proposal in a round about way i am supporting it as i believe in it BAP or staking but ...eh Confused gl anyway

     
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Working on putting together an online google spread sheet, so I can keep track of results, and people can easily see the progress. Keep in mind, I SUCK at spread sheets, so it may be a bit ugly lol.

     
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Okey I just made the transfer on FullTilt , you should see $16,5 in your account anytime soon..

     
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