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  27-Jan-13, 13:40   #41
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4_the_W 
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Posted by Peremoha:
Posted by justblazed1:
stop ur whinning and shove or fold and shut up freebies what do all whinners exspect??? Cool

im a donk in some freerolls depending on what mood im in shove if i really dont give a sht and smart play when i do Big Smile


Completely true!
Smile

Sometimes bluff with 7 2 can bring more chips then with KK.
If someone calls u and u win with 7 2,maybe donk but with the chips! Dollar


When you go with 7/2 all in, or call with nothing in flop, is not bluff, is just STUPID PLAY!!! And if you get lucky, is b/c is stupid luck, but only in a short term, in a long term is loose play. You can play moronic in poker, this thing will always make you loose. Poker is not a lucky game, luck it come and goes and you can't control him. Knowlege it will be in your head all the time. If 7/2 is your way...then..that is all you can.. and also, 99.5% from bad beats are made it by Russians or former Rusian states.

     
  28-Jan-13, 11:13   #42
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
Age: 57 (M)
Posts: 244
Posted by 4_the_W:
Posted by Peremoha:
Posted by justblazed1:
stop ur whinning and shove or fold and shut up freebies what do all whinners exspect??? Cool

im a donk in some freerolls depending on what mood im in shove if i really dont give a sht and smart play when i do Big Smile


Completely true!
Smile

Sometimes bluff with 7 2 can bring more chips then with KK.
If someone calls u and u win with 7 2,maybe donk but with the chips! Dollar


When you go with 7/2 all in, or call with nothing in flop, is not bluff, is just STUPID PLAY!!! And if you get lucky, is b/c is stupid luck, but only in a short term, in a long term is loose play. You can play moronic in poker, this thing will always make you loose. Poker is not a lucky game, luck it come and goes and you can't control him. Knowlege it will be in your head all the time. If 7/2 is your way...then..that is all you can.. and also, 99.5% from bad beats are made it by Russians or former Rusian states.


I was with you until you started badmouthing Russians. While it's true that many of the bad players you come across are Russian that is simply because they are new to the game and not because of their nationality.

     
  28-Jan-13, 12:32   #43
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stephensange 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Ireland
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Posts: 43
oh i do believe it is hard to play with all the all-ins from donks but there is nothing that can be done about it i do like what was said earlier in this post about having a ticket and being a member etc but if this has already been put forward to brm what can we do? sign a petition on this site?

     
  28-Jan-13, 13:19   #44
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Fakiry 

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It's always happeining, don't feel sad for it, think about it as someone you got at that point of the tourney that simply was tired from keep playing and decided to threw away all his chips to the table with whatever two cards and he happened to win that hand, sending you home earlier or finishing the hopes you could have to get further on the game. That's why freerolls are one of the toughest types of tourneys...

     
  28-Jan-13, 13:41   #45
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
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There's three types of players that go all in with rags.

the first do it early in the game and are usually have few on no poker skills.

the second type are the ones that get bored in the middle stages and start shoving looking for some action or because they have to leave due to real life.

The final ones are actually have poker sills and due to bad luck find themselves short stacked and know that they basically have the choice of folding or shoving.

     
  28-Jan-13, 13:50   #46
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
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it seems like best way to play BRM freeroll is to showe with any cards til have decent stack or are out since 70-80% times premium hands fail anyways soo why suffer 10-15 min and wait good hand Big Smile it might never come too Spade Club Heart Diamond half of players who enter brm freeroll play like that and it wont change since 5000+ player and only 25 usd only worth ya time if ya finish in top 3

     
  28-Jan-13, 13:55   #47
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Peremoha 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Ukraine
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Posts: 115
Posted by 4_the_W:
Posted by Peremoha:
Posted by justblazed1:
stop ur whinning and shove or fold and shut up freebies what do all whinners exspect??? Cool

im a donk in some freerolls depending on what mood im in shove if i really dont give a sht and smart play when i do Big Smile


Completely true!
Smile

Sometimes bluff with 7 2 can bring more chips then with KK.
If someone calls u and u win with 7 2,maybe donk but with the chips! Dollar


When you go with 7/2 all in, or call with nothing in flop, is not bluff, is just STUPID PLAY!!! And if you get lucky, is b/c is stupid luck, but only in a short term, in a long term is loose play. You can play moronic in poker, this thing will always make you loose. Poker is not a lucky game, luck it come and goes and you can't control him. Knowlege it will be in your head all the time. If 7/2 is your way...then..that is all you can.. and also, 99.5% from bad beats are made it by Russians or former Rusian states.


Who plays bluff with 7/2 in long term?There are situations where is very good reason to go all in.
On the bubble with weak players.They are afraid to lose their chance of not getting the awarding place.Later I'll show you some images where it is recommended. Blink

If you don't like the way people play poker from countries that were in ussr it is your problem.
Just be a good player and time will show who is who Sleepy

     
  28-Jan-13, 14:00   #48
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
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Posts: 244
Posted by nipitiri3:
it seems like best way to play BRM freeroll is to showe with any cards til have decent stack or are out since 70-80% times premium hands fail anyways soo why suffer 10-15 min and wait good hand Big Smile it might never come too Spade Club Heart Diamond half of players who enter brm freeroll play like that and it wont change since 5000+ player and only 25 usd only worth ya time if ya finish in top 3


The problem with that approach is it players that start doing that tend to start playing that way all the time. I'd rather try to play my best poker even if the pot is only worth $25.

     
  28-Jan-13, 14:05   #49
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
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Posts: 614
i used to take that tourney very seriously but not so much anymore = not been on cash for while lol
bad luck + some bad play and not played many of brm freeroll anymore too few months ago i played mostly 2-4 tourneys in 24h Big Smile

     
  28-Jan-13, 14:35   #50
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
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I sometimes have 2 or 3 hours between classes. so, I bring my laptop to work and when I have long breaks will play freerolls in my longer breaks. If I have to stop to do something work related it's no big deal.

     
  28-Jan-13, 17:53   #51
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4_the_W 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Romania
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Posted by Zen1004:
Posted by 4_the_W:
Posted by Peremoha:
Posted by justblazed1:
stop ur whinning and shove or fold and shut up freebies what do all whinners exspect??? Cool

im a donk in some freerolls depending on what mood im in shove if i really dont give a sht and smart play when i do Big Smile


Completely true!
Smile

Sometimes bluff with 7 2 can bring more chips then with KK.
If someone calls u and u win with 7 2,maybe donk but with the chips! Dollar


When you go with 7/2 all in, or call with nothing in flop, is not bluff, is just STUPID PLAY!!! And if you get lucky, is b/c is stupid luck, but only in a short term, in a long term is loose play. You can play moronic in poker, this thing will always make you loose. Poker is not a lucky game, luck it come and goes and you can't control him. Knowlege it will be in your head all the time. If 7/2 is your way...then..that is all you can.. and also, 99.5% from bad beats are made it by Russians or former Rusian states.


I was with you until you started badmouthing Russians. While it's true that many of the bad players you come across are Russian that is simply because they are new to the game and not because of their nationality.


I don't have anything with his nationality. Reality is that, 99.5% bad beats are made by Russian blood. If you don't believe me, ask any poker player... If they are new in the game, there is forums, books and sites(in Russian language), for new players, also when you make an account, PS (don't know about other sites) gives you tickets after you read simply rules and pass the tests. There you can learn about bad beats, outs, odds! No one started as a pro. Also i watch high buy-in tourneys...not only Russians begginers play that way!!! I'm not a pro, i don't afford to give advice to anyone, but i can't play moronic...it will be an insult for the game, for other players and for myself. Just now i was out, coz an Russian BB, doesen't know to fold, and call my all in with T/6 off suit..earlier, in the same tourney, other table, another russian blood, belarus, call with 5/2 off suit 3xBB preflop, nothing in flop and he keeps calling till the end... I watched IDOLLS yesterday, and on his table, an K/T suited call 3xBB, against Aces...he wins but he apologize for his call, but still K/T suited, not all stvpid cards.

Edited by 4_the_W (28 January 2013 @ 18:55 GMT)


     
  28-Jan-13, 19:29   #52
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Peremoha 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Ukraine
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 115
Posted by 4_the_W:
Posted by Zen1004:
Posted by 4_the_W:
Posted by Peremoha:
Posted by justblazed1:
stop ur whinning and shove or fold and shut up freebies what do all whinners exspect??? Cool

im a donk in some freerolls depending on what mood im in shove if i really dont give a sht and smart play when i do Big Smile


Completely true!
Smile

Sometimes bluff with 7 2 can bring more chips then with KK.
If someone calls u and u win with 7 2,maybe donk but with the chips! Dollar


When you go with 7/2 all in, or call with nothing in flop, is not bluff, is just STUPID PLAY!!! And if you get lucky, is b/c is stupid luck, but only in a short term, in a long term is loose play. You can play moronic in poker, this thing will always make you loose. Poker is not a lucky game, luck it come and goes and you can't control him. Knowlege it will be in your head all the time. If 7/2 is your way...then..that is all you can.. and also, 99.5% from bad beats are made it by Russians or former Rusian states.


I was with you until you started badmouthing Russians. While it's true that many of the bad players you come across are Russian that is simply because they are new to the game and not because of their nationality.


I don't have anything with his nationality. Reality is that, 99.5% bad beats are made by Russian blood. If you don't believe me, ask any poker player... If they are new in the game, there is forums, books and sites(in Russian language), for new players, also when you make an account, PS (don't know about other sites) gives you tickets after you read simply rules and pass the tests. There you can learn about bad beats, outs, odds! No one started as a pro. Also i watch high buy-in tourneys...not only Russians begginers play that way!!! I'm not a pro, i don't afford to give advice to anyone, but i can't play moronic...it will be an insult for the game, for other players and for myself. Just now i was out, coz an Russian BB, doesen't know to fold, and call my all in with T/6 off suit..earlier, in the same tourney, other table, another russian blood, belarus, call with 5/2 off suit 3xBB preflop, nothing in flop and he keeps calling till the end... I watched IDOLLS yesterday, and on his table, an K/T suited call 3xBB, against Aces...he wins but he apologize for his call, but still K/T suited, not all stvpid cards.



Look here for a second.Here is situation when you can go all in with 7/2.

And come down man
Sleepy
If you know that "some" people play stupid hands so just use it,don't blame anyone.

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  28-Jan-13, 19:44   #53
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4_the_W 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Romania
Age: 43 (M)
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I din't say you can play 7/2. 7/2 like whatever stupid hand can be played on high stakes and only preflop. What i see here... i don't like it, all in with that hand. Maybe b/c i know myself..if i have a good hand...in that situation, i will force you to believe i have a bad hand and you will do like that, then we will see.... If i have a hand like that and know the player good enough, i will force the raise...but not all in. These, like all my post are my opinons. Look an exemple, 13 players still in the BRM, i'm SB, all players fold till me, my hand is A/4 off suit, obv go all in, BB, don't remember his nick, calls. Cards up, my A/4 off suit and his 7/4 also off suit, he gets an 7 on turn... So...go all in with 7/2 Blink

     
  29-Jan-13, 06:30   #54
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pinku135 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: India
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 335
Good day everyone Smile
Bad beats are so inevitable in the freerolls ...even though you play super tight .... you may get out with a donk call ... thats sick ...and the brm freeroll is gets filled with donks and outsiders and make the experience worse and even more worse with the shoving fest !!! all the freerolls are just donk fest !!

Good luck at the tables Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
  29-Jan-13, 07:24   #55
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 1437
Well it s always the same story....

There s a quote :

preflop any hand can win the pot, you just have to hit....

So I can understand you play "bad starting hands" when you can play them cheap and you have a decent stack. If you hit big (at least 2 pair) it pays of as nobody assumes you will play with such cards.

     
  29-Jan-13, 07:27   #56
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boghy_sen 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Romania
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 8
on freerolls will always find haotic players hwo will go all in with any two cards ,generly speking is good think becouse most time you ll win .... but some time ...... you will lose in front of 2,7 (i ll lose today kk vs 8,3 ) i was angry but after all that is it i ll get over it ..... Aww crap!

     
  29-Jan-13, 09:35   #57
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 614
ya mostly best paydays are if someone does raise preflop and ya call with crapp if u hit flop that who raised preflop are prollly out ater hand Big Smile but i think thats not donking donking is if call all in preflop or raise yaself all in preflop with crappy cards watch youtube videos worlds best players call with crapp sometimes to see if they hit and get opponent trapped

     
  29-Jan-13, 09:52   #58
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
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If you can t deal with the fact that your good starting handsmany gets beaten in freerolls (there it happens more often).

Just avoid playing them, if you can ...

If you have already a bankroll --> you do not need to play a 50$ freeroll (itr will take a lot of time and luck to get ITM) and to make a decent profit you ll have to reach at least the top 5.

I only play freerolls with high prices (5000$ give-away at PP) and (500 euro freerolls at terminal (small player field)
This makes it profitable

     
  29-Jan-13, 12:26   #59
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
Age: 57 (M)
Posts: 244
Posted by thefly131:
If you can t deal with the fact that your good starting handsmany gets beaten in freerolls (there it happens more often).

Just avoid playing them, if you can ...

If you have already a bankroll --> you do not need to play a 50$ freeroll (itr will take a lot of time and luck to get ITM) and to make a decent profit you ll have to reach at least the top 5.

I only play freerolls with high prices (5000$ give-away at PP) and (500 euro freerolls at terminal (small player field)
This makes it profitable


Some people just need to talk about their bad beats to help deal with their frustration. It's not helpful in the least to whine about them doing just that in a thread specifically titled for the purpose.

     
  29-Jan-13, 15:04   #60
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
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Posts: 614
playing with any hand is ok if someone not hit monster hand ya prolly raise til everyone fold lol works loads in real cash tourneys but it requires raise preflop kinda risky but nice profit if works =no risk no glory cant keep folding til get pocket pair or AK Worship

     
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