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If my banroll skills were so poor how did i manage to run my free $5 on poker770 upto £400+ How did i manage to run my free $5 on kingdomofpoker upto $500 ?? How did i manage to run my free £5 on skypoker upto £300 + ??? How did i manage to run my free $8 on 888 upto over $250 ?? The reason i ran $12 upto $250 in less than a day was because i ignored bankroll management and played games above my limits - because it was not my money and i would not have been able to withdraw this money as i already had other accounts with this site Bankroll management does not work on 888 and neither does poker odds !!! Why do you think they have no big name pros ??? They are stuck with a big fat Aussie ex cricketer If you had a million hands they would want 2 million for proof B) They don't stand to gain anything (long term) by rigging their RNG and there's no way they'd still be operating if it was rigged Who would shut them down ??? They dont stand to gain anything ??? they can rig their rng to produce action flop after action flop where they know full well that players will pile there money in to the pot ! in cash games this ensures more rake for the site ! in tournaments this means players will rebuy or buy into another game quicker ! Every night on 888 3000+ person tourney is finnished in about 3 hrs WTF how is this possible ?? Blinds ??? Donks ??? Rigging ??? or maybe a mixture of all 3. And you being a computer programer should know that is is impossible for a computer to generate a true random number !!!!! The rng is checked to ensure that the deal of the cards is fair - you have just as much chance as joe blogs and dave the rave of getting AA KK QQ or 23 34 72 So the rng is checked and YES its all good everyone has the same chance and all cards are dealt randomly ! Who checks the cards after the deal ???? Who knows for sure ??? So who checks 888s random number generator - eCOGRA Who pays these guys wages - Hmmmmmmm oh yeah its the poker sites eCOGRA was set up by the online gambling sites so they could self regulate and self comply to supposed laws and legislations . According to eCOGRA over 6000 disputes about online sites have been raised with them - with the majority found in favour of the player !!! Easier to pay them off to keep them happy When most people have a problem with a site they just leave ! How many people on bankroll mob have ever contacted eCOGRA or a simular organisation about a poker problem ???? - erm not many if any ! I think its is very commendable that someone is trying to do something about these sites and get them checked out (the guy who started this thread ) So how about we praise him and his beliefs and encourage independant reviews and audits of poker companys !!! If you guys are sooooo sure online poker is not rigged then surely you would be encouraging independant checks and audits to prove once and for all thats its all above board Also so would all the poker sites !! if they could prove from a government approved agency that their site was fair and above board then i am sure a lot more players would play online with confidence. Why do these poker sites hide in MALTA , COSTA RICA , GIBRALTOR and other off shore places ?????? If they really had nothing to hide why would they all try their hardest to make traceability and legislation as difficult as possible ??? I tell you what - you provide the statistical evidence that it is not rigged and i might even believe you Or maybe i wouldnt seeing as you are a computer programer who loves to stick up for these sites !
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Posted by kingfisha:
If you had a million hands they would want 2 million for proof
it would certainly warrant further investigation, but I assure you if you run a million hands and it shows up statistical inconsistencies, plenty of people will be interested and willing to listen to what you have to say.
The problem is, at the moment "what you have to say" is all you have and "what you have to say" is the same rubbish bollocks that every 'tard has to say about [insert poker site they lost their money on]
Also, multi-accounting is cheating, surprised you so readily admit you're a cheat on a public forum in the same breadth you accuse others (the sites) of cheating without any evidence. The mind boggles.
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fwiw kingfisha u are exactly the kind of player I like to play and do searches on. cause to be able to run up br like that, you need to be aggressive and reckless and sooner or later i will catch u and take your roll, so i can call light against you.
if u want, we could join a cash table tgether tonight and i can talk you through it
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Still no one can tell me who will shut these sites down !!! All you can do is try and discredit my poker skills Remember less than 10% of players actully show a profit online ! So that puts me in the top 10% You cant tell me why all these legitimate poker sites are based offshore !!! You dont even try to answer about eCOGRA !!!! Fact - online poker is an unregulated business making millions every day ! But you tell me its all above board and im a terrible player - even though i show a profit on nearly every site i have played on !!! Even eCOGRA state on 888s website than they cant say the games are fair 100% of the time - and this is coming from a company that was formed by the online sites for the online sites !!! It is not cheating to multi account ! - if you have read my post you will see that 888 have many skins -like luckyace and WSOP ! My only crime being i was given $12 free when already having an account on a sister site ! And ipoker has tons of skins !! so is it cheating if i have an account on bet365 , poker770 , paddypower,blueSQ + more ??? - they all use the same software and tables !!! I admit 888 has terrible security checks !! you can actually register for the same tournament from 3 different skins !! Still you guys cant answer the questions ?? Why do poker sites regulate themselves ??? Where is the proof everything is above board ??? You guys are either very trusting or very stupid I spent years in the building trade which was also self regulated. The regulator (NHBC)was paid for by the big house builders to give customers greter perceived assurances about the quality of their new house ! When the NHBC found problems with houses did they shut the builder down ?? did they fine them or report them to anyone ??? NO !! All that was done was reccomendations to the builder and in the worst cases compensation to the customer ! In my eyes the online poker industry is exactly the same - they are self regulated in obscure countries which have different laws and legislation to the countries in which they are offering their service! Any wrong doings by the poker sites are either ignored or in rare cases people are conpensated !! WOW what great regulation you have there ! Icequeenace LOL You joined 888 on the 8-2-2013 you have played 19 games and have won £3.95p I am shaking in my boots ! 1 game on ipoker network - er you lost !!! 4 games on microgaming - er you lost all 4 of them as well At least have the stats to back up your claims !!!
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Kingfisha you may or may not know this but your the only guy that I've seen on here that actually knows his shiit and your the 1st guy these hero pokersite defenders haven't jumped on....because they know they have no argument with you because you have actually done your research about this subject .....where as most of us just go by what we have seen and experienced.... it doesn't take a genius to work out what you say is the truth, just a tiny bit of common sense .....but these kiss ass poker pimps love to jump on people who only go by what they have experienced and don't have the true facts, like you have put in this thread .....I find it very funny that none of them have tried to kick up and argument with a guy (kjngfisha) who knows the exact facts .....good to see and hear from
------------ Jessthehuman why are you even arguing with this guy....all your doing is making yourself look very silly
Edited by my_bankroll (20 February 2013 @ 12:35 GMT)
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Posted by my_bankroll: .because they know they have no argument with you because you have actually done your research about this subject .... Jessthehuman why are you even arguing with this guy....all your doing is making yourself look very silly
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Posted by my_bankroll: Kingfisha you may or may not know this but your the only guy that I've seen on here that actually knows his shiit and your the 1st guy these hero pokersite defenders haven't jumped on....because they know they have no argument with you because you have actually done your research about this subject .....where as most of us just go by what we have seen and experienced.... it doesn't take a genius to work out what you say is the truth, just a tiny bit of common sense .....but these kiss ass poker pimps love to jump on people who only go by what they have experienced and don't have the true facts, like you have put in this thread .....I find it very funny that none of them have tried to kick up and argument with a guy (kjngfisha) who knows the exact facts .....good to see and hear from
------------ Jessthehuman why are you even arguing with this guy....all your doing is making yourself look very silly
I don't think he has posted any facts. No-one is saying it is guarenteed 100% fair, just asking for some facts
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Posted by kingfisha: Icequeenace LOL You joined 888 on the 8-2-2013 you have played 19 games and have won �3.95p I am shaking in my boots ! 1 game on ipoker network - er you lost !!! 4 games on microgaming - er you lost all 4 of them as well At least have the stats to back up your claims !!!
Claims? I don't think I made any claims? Feel free to point out where I did.
All I did was offer to watch your game on a cash game and give you some advice.
And for the record (anyone can use pokershark or any of the other sites) I have been playing winning poker on many sites for many years. I am more than happy to discuss strategy and things in depth with you.
I am just broadening the sites I use and having this site build BR's from nothing is just a bit of a challenge and fun (and brm gain from rakeback etc from the sites I use anyway).
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Posted by kingfisha: Still no one can tell me who will shut these sites down !!! Still you guys cant answer the questions ?? Why do poker sites regulate themselves ???
Just go to any legitimate poker site, check the T&C and see who provides their gaming license. These people actually certify the RNGs of sites after checking over the code. And if the sites are found to be 'rigged' then the companies providing the gaming licenses will revoke the license.
It's that simple, seriously - check any poker site you like and you'll be able to find this information.
my_bankroll: I'm handing his ass to him on a plate, he's not making me look silly. He's a moron. Just like you. All I am asking for is evidence. The burden off proof is always on the person making the claim. So far no evidence is provided, just a bunch of dribble from another losing player, all you rigtards are the same. See how long I've been active on here - check older threads over the years, you losers come and go all the time, you all post all the same crap and you ALL refuse to provide any evidence for your claims.
You're a bunch of losers and the jokes on you because despite your retarded theories, you STILL play on the sites. You're just a bunch of morons.
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That's when you know a guy is losing a discussion he's having .....starts calling people retards and deflects away from answering any questions .
------------ No one has ever said the RnG isn't legit
------------ Go crawl back under your rock you came from jess.
Made yourself look like a total fool
------------ The reason I still play in the sites is because I play mostly freerolls and also we know these sites aren't rigged all the time the guys who own these sites are not stupid enough to have them rigged 100% of the time
Edited by my_bankroll (20 February 2013 @ 13:19 GMT)
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Posted by my_bankroll: The reason I still play in the sites is because I play mostly freerolls and also we know these sites aren't rigged all the time the guys who own these sites are not stupid enough to have them rigged 100% of the time
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Posted by IceQueenAce:
Posted by my_bankroll: The reason I still play in the sites is because I play mostly freerolls and also we know these sites aren't rigged all the time the guys who own these sites are not stupid enough to have them rigged 100% of the time
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Well like we all have said we can't show 100% proof its rigged and on the same hand no one can show 100% proof it isn't
What we all can be 100% sure of is, if these big sites wanted 100% proof the integrity was good ...they could have it by doing what kingfisha has stated in previous comment I.e why set up in Costa rica., why are they not audited by a government regulated bodies instead of there own self regulators
Pretty sure if they were regulated by official regulators we would all have 100% trust in them
------------ Just of a matter of interest jess how much profit have you made online?
Edited by my_bankroll (20 February 2013 @ 13:43 GMT)
