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Hello guys,
I checked the casino offers at The BankrollMob site and I registered at Casino Classic. So I got the $500 NDB and I started to play at the slots. For 30 minutes I played at two slots and I played more than 200 bets, I mean I did the waggering requirements like it is said here:
Tomorrow morning I will make a deposit of $20 and I will be credited with $100 real money in my account and the $500 will disappear. Ok, this is fine. But I chatted with a Customer Support Agent and asked her, tomorrow when I deposit $20 can I withdraw my winnings at least $100 and she told me that I have to make 30 x $100 waggering requirements and after that I can withdraw. That means $3000 ??? I have to make bets for $3000???
I don't understand! I did the requirements which are written at the BankrollMob site: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When can you claim your winnings? As soon as you have made 100 or more bets and won $20 over the original $500, you will be eligible to claim your winnings into a real casino account. You will need to deposit a minimum of $20 into your casino account in order to claim your winnings." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But the Customer Agents said that i have to bet now $3000! This sounds crazy! Don't you think?
Admin, my question is: Why I can't withdraw $100 - my winnings? I made more than 100 bets + I will deposit $20 and I will inform you what will happen then!
But at The BankrollMob - Casino Classic offer which you have, you should add: If you win something you have to bet 30 times your winnings plus 100 or more bets! Am I right?
I normally play poker, never playing casinos but I wanted to try. Now I won, but it seems more complicated and I am not sure now if I can withdraw my winnings.
I hope Admin will answer my thread or someone who cashed out from Casino Classic. Here you can see a screenshot of my winning.
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well i just played this and i got it up to $890 on the roulette and lost it all in about 30 mins, so i won't be wondering how to cash out. gl to you Peter.
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You should have read the rules before playing. Thats exactly how the system works. The money you won is bonus money which have a playthrough and admin cant do anything about this.
And its in the header of your screenshot 100$ free play bonus !
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Yes, I had 60 minutes free play. But when I deposit $20, automatically $100 will be transffered into real money. And I will have $120. Maximum cash out of this bonus is $100. So, I have it. I red the Terms & Conditions:
I mean I had $600, but into real money can be converted maximum $100. But my question was: Why I have to play 30 times x $100? This I don't undersatnd. That was not mentioned at the BRM Casino Classic promotion!
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I would have thought you would have to have won $520 in total,...being the $500 and the $20 over and above that for the $520 in total!
You have to read the requirements thouroughly. I think sometimes they write them up in an ambiguous way to confuse most people,...and once your hooked.....it's then bank account extraction time....
Maybe I'm a little too cynical about all this stuff...I don't know...
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I'll break this down for you.
1. Get the bonus 2. Win at least $20 over the initial $500 in the requiered time 3. Deposit at least $20 4. Your winnings, no more then $100, will be credited to your account as a bonus 5. This bonus has a playthrough requirement that has to be met 6. When you've done this you can withdraw all of your funds
Basically, the BRM bonus is only a way to give you the chanse of getting a bonus on that site, it's not really a bonus in itself.
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Posted by erru9107: I'll break this down for you.
1. Get the bonus 2. Win at least $20 over the initial $500 in the requiered time 3. Deposit at least $20 4. Your winnings, no more then $100, will be credited to your account as a bonus 5. This bonus has a playthrough requirement that has to be met 6. When you've done this you can withdraw all of your funds
Basically, the BRM bonus is only a way to give you the chanse of getting a bonus on that site, it's not really a bonus in itself.
If this is wrong, please correct me.
erru is right !
You played a free play bonus wich is a Multi stage promotion.
You can win a max of 100 in the freeplay wich almost everyone gets... Then you must deposit and you get the 100 as a bonus. This bonus amount has to be played untill you met the playthrough.
So actually they also could have said you get 100 bonus if you deposit 20...same thing. Thats why these free play bunnuses are such BS..
You actually dont have anything right now...i am sorry
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Thank you all guys, for your replies! You are right! That helped me so much! Actually I never deposited at Casino sites, so I decided not to deposit! It is a waste of time I think.
So, when it is about deposit I always prefer to be a poker deposit. If I deposit at this casino, I think I will lose everything. So, I don't want to risk.
Thanks again for all your comments! Good luck all.
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You’re not used to casino’s way of dealing with money so, if I were you, I would keep playing there without depositing. Who knows if you can turn those $100 into something bigger? Anyway, don’t mind too much about it, and if it happens that you get a big sum there, then, at that point, you can think about depositing and still make those new bets and maybe even lose some of the profits you gathered, but in the end, at that point, you probably still have more than you deposited and you’ll always be withdrawing more than you invested. Seems safer to do it this way.
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Hello Fakiry,
Thanks for your reply. The problem is that right now I can not contunie to play, because I have $0.00 at my real money account. Do you understand how this promotion is working? Only when I deposit at least $20, after that they will add my winning of $100 at my real money account. But now I don' have $100 because I didn't deposited yet. There is one week of period during which I have to make a deposit. If I don't make a deposit during the week, the winnings of $100 will disappear.
Very strange offer. Practically now I have no winnings and I can not continue to play. That is why if I deposit, I prefer to be a poker deposit, not a casino deposit. Because this is a waste of time, I think.
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Posted by Fakiry: You�re not used to casino�s way of dealing with money so, if I were you, I would keep playing there without depositing. Who knows if you can turn those $100 into something bigger? Anyway, don�t mind too much about it, and if it happens that you get a big sum there, then, at that point, you can think about depositing and still make those new bets and maybe even lose some of the profits you gathered, but in the end, at that point, you probably still have more than you deposited and you�ll always be withdrawing more than you invested. Seems safer to do it this way.
Fakiry you obviously dont understand anything about online casino's also..
He cant play with the 100 because its the maximum he can get out of the first stage of the promotion.He has to deposit and then the 100 will become bonusmoney.Then he has to make a playthrough and THEN he can withdraw winnings.
This is explained already by several people in this thread..
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Posted by remco2504:
Posted by Fakiry: You�re not used to casino�s way of dealing with money so, if I were you, I would keep playing there without depositing. Who knows if you can turn those $100 into something bigger? Anyway, don�t mind too much about it, and if it happens that you get a big sum there, then, at that point, you can think about depositing and still make those new bets and maybe even lose some of the profits you gathered, but in the end, at that point, you probably still have more than you deposited and you�ll always be withdrawing more than you invested. Seems safer to do it this way.
Fakiry you obviously dont understand anything about online casino's also..
He cant play with the 100 because its the maximum he can get out of the first stage of the promotion.He has to deposit and then the 100 will become bonusmoney.Then he has to make a playthrough and THEN he can withdraw winnings.
This is explained already by several people in this thread..
G'day mates
Well I am shocked Rick to discover that there is gambling going on in this establishment Online casino's almost never have to payout mate. Kiss your deposit goodbye too. Stick to Poker where your playing skills can give you a fighting chance.
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Im very surprised that there is still people left in the world, who think, they can actually make profit from casinobonus offers. And its not strange offer, ist standard hook for beginners. I have tried many of those offers for fun and you never managed to lose those 500, so you always end up with winnings, so you have to depostit etc.
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Posted by pokkerimees: Im very surprised that there is still people left in the world, who think, they can actually make profit from casinobonus offers. And its not strange offer, ist standard hook for beginners. I have tried many of those offers for fun and you never managed to lose those 500, so you always end up with winnings, so you have to depostit etc.
I hate to be the stone in the shoe of all the negativism regarding casinopromotions here but i guess i should, if nothing else, to say my different story.
I got paid WITHOUT depositing from an online casino. Lock casino it was called. I got the ndb... met the playthrough requirements... confirmed my identity and got my $50 max cashout to my moneybookers account without any hassle. On a more recent adventure i also got paid from the 138sungame one advertised here but this one i had to deposit before withdrawing. Main point here is: It is possible to get free cash from a casino... u just have to find an honest one.
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Posted by pokkerimees: Im very surprised that there is still people left in the world, who think, they can actually make profit from casinobonus offers. And its not strange offer, ist standard hook for beginners. I have tried many of those offers for fun and you never managed to lose those 500, so you always end up with winnings, so you have to depostit etc.
you should have seen me last night,i lost my 500 quite easily,
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You actually can make a profit from No Deposit casino offers. I have done so a couple of times in the past myself so i assure you its not impossible. But i also have just lost time playing in some others
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Mober, so, your advice is that I have to deposit $20 and that way I will receive $100 my winnings.
But I am scared how can I bet 30 times per $100? That means $3 000! I have to reach $3 000! This is the condition of this offer. If I reach less than $3 000 I am not allowed to withdraw! So, how will I convert $120 into $ 3000? Too difficult, don't you think?
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Posted by Peter7878: Hello guys,
Tomorrow morning I will make a deposit of $20 and I will be credited with $100 real money in my account and the $500 will disappear. Ok, this is fine. But I chatted with a Customer Support Agent and asked her, tomorrow when I deposit $20 can I withdraw my winnings at least $100 and she told me that I have to make 30 x $100 waggering requirements and after that I can withdraw. That means $3000 ??? I have to make bets for $3000???
I don't understand! I did the requirements which are written at the BankrollMob site: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When can you claim your winnings? As soon as you have made 100 or more bets and won $20 over the original $500, you will be eligible to claim your winnings into a real casino account. You will need to deposit a minimum of $20 into your casino account in order to claim your winnings." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But the Customer Agents said that i have to bet now $3000! This sounds crazy! Don't you think?
Yeah, unfortunately this is super standard. The first 'play through', the one hour thing is just a kind of luck dip to see how much your 'bonus' will be, no casino will ever let you withdraw after 1 hour of play like this.
Once you get through this and earn a bonus amount, $100 for you, then you still have the usual bonus playthrough requirement that you will get with all casino bonuses, 30X is pretty standard these days..
Good luck!
P.S: Casinos is like blood from a stone, honestly - I wouldn't really bother, if you must take the offers - just have a bit of fun and pretty it is play money, that is what I do. Never tried withdrawing anything, seems like a massive hassle and unlikely pay-off.
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Posted by Peter7878: But I am scared how can I bet 30 times per $100? That means $3 000! I have to reach $3 000! This is the condition of this offer. If I reach less than $3 000 I am not allowed to withdraw! So, how will I convert $120 into $ 3000? Too difficult, don't you think?
Yeah - and to make it worse, often they restrict you from playing the games with low house edge. If there are NO restrictions - I would suggest making minimum (5c, 10c, etc) black/red bets on roulette. The edge is small enough that I think you should still have some of your $100 left by the time you've made $3,000 worth of bets.
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Posted by Peter7878: But I am scared how can I bet 30 times per $100? That means $3 000! I have to reach $3 000! This is the condition of this offer. If I reach less than $3 000 I am not allowed to withdraw! So, how will I convert $120 into $ 3000? Too difficult, don't you think?
Just to clarify; you don't have to reach $3,000, you have to wager $3,000.
That just means, say for example you make 100 bets of $1 each on red, at the end you may have $98.00 left, you have now wagered $100
(Add up the value of each bet you make, until you reach $3,000).
