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Going to deposit £12 now that I have spare and see how I do grinding. Just hope it was Ladbrokes and not just me that was the source of my bad run and always losing.

Give me a shout when you intend to start grinding again and we can grind the same table/s or something, Rons.

Nice start already losing $4 to AA when I had KK. Knew after the re-raises and he went all in that he had AA, but whor folds KK pre flop most of the time. Still, it's a standard hand so nothing to moan about.

Edited by Phisix (16 January 2014 @ 14:24 GMT)


     
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Posted by RoninHarper:
G'day mate

Well you can play on PokerStars in one of 4 different currency's US$, CND$, Euro$, or BPS$
Yep that is right mate US, Canadian, Euro, Or British Pound Sterling tables are all available to play games on and I do play on them all.
It just depends on the time of the day and which style of game you want to play.
it is something to consider.
be cool

Ronin Cool



wierd I tried to find any Canadian money to play but nothing found and british pounds was almost the same? What games are you playing with the canadian money? And in euros there is only HU sng going to high stakes..

     
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I found pounds but only on medium stacks tables which is well above my bankroll. Guess sticking to $ is fine since I can lose less due to the currency exchange.

Doing well on one table now against some Russian fish, he is so easy to read.

Edit:

What bollocks. Remember that guy who had AA when I had KK? Yeah well it happened again. I had KK and he had AA again. Same table, same guy. Luckily a flush draw came down so I slow down betting so it saved me money. Never had that before. Nice.

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Had a good first session regardless of that double AA. Managed to finish down £2.15 but apart from those KK vs AA hands I played really well and no annoying things like on Ipoker. So far so good.

BR $15.90

Edited by Phisix (16 January 2014 @ 15:47 GMT)


     
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G'day mate

Well glad to here you had a decent day so far.
Would have preferred to read you day was a profit at the time you quit.
Well at least you are of the ipoker format
wishing you great success
best wishing
be cool

Ronin Cool

     
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Indeed, everything was fine. sooner you get on sooner we can milk some tables dry. Until then I am going to grind and hopefully make some profit.

     
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Micro stakes grinding is so crap sometimes. You spend all this time playing really well making a bit of profit then you keep getting sucked out on and lose to fish who call with such tripe cards, then you are back to break even and below and you have to start all over again. Been stuck on $17 for the last two days I was up to $19 a minute ago but had some Russian fish on my table calling all of my raises and cracking stuff with cards like J7o, calling a straight draw and hitting of course when I had TPTK. This is poker though and following BRM I don't really lose much. Still, prefer this over constantly losing on Ipoker.

Just tiring spending all this grinding for a pittance and it will be a very long time until you can move up to a better stake which makes things a bit better.

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Ended up having a good session after all in the end. Things were slow and steady but I played well and took my BR from $17 to $20 finally. Not much profit but I am enjoying playing hands now and not having all of those problems on Ladbrokes I poker. Hard to go busto as well now I am following BRM carefully.

Edited by Phisix (18 January 2014 @ 21:07 GMT)


     
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G'day mate

Glad to read you has a good session.
I just dropped in to wish you well and say hi
keep up the good work and stay positive
have a great weekend
be cool

Ronin Cool

     
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This site is terrible for river suckouts. Been getting them a lot when I am well ahead but as usual people luck out. Such is poker its all luck.

Just lost a massive $24 pot pre flop all in as someone was trying to bully me with position when I had KK. 3 bet him large and he went all in. Insta call and he flipped over 1010. Flops a 10. Such a joke is poker always rewarding the lesser hands as per usual. Still not as nearly as bad as Ipoker....yet

     
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G'day mate

Well I was sorry to read that you lost your coin flip.
The good thing is that you did get the money in ahead and you can take solace in that fact.
You got your money in good, it always sucks when you lose to a weaker hand but really you only had a pair so it was a very small edge which you had.
I wish it had gone your way but realistically I know you know it was a coin flip of pair vrs pair.
best wishes next time.
be cool

Ronin Cool

     
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Posted by RoninHarper:
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really you only had a pair so it was a very small edge which you had
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KK is +80% favorite against TT so I wouldn't say its a very small edge Big Smile
And even against a range of {TT+,AK} it is 66%

Too bad your kings didn't hold this time Phisix Smile Sad

     
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Thats why you are having so "bad" luck on the coin flips, because you think this is a coinflip.. Confused I would consider you to read few basic thing before you start your horse thing and play with others money! Smile

     
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just read some of your blog wish you the best of luck, a tip to remember is to try and avoid getting your money all in until the river has been flipped up, then luck isn't quite as bad because you have opportunities to fold when you realize the donkies have sucked out and can cut your losses, only thing is its harder to play big pairs thru later streets if you don't spike something big.

on a side note, u can get a hold em manager 2 trial for a month btw!

     
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I know Poker gives you suckouts all the time but it always seems to be when I am involved in a big pots that it always happens especially when I need that pot more than the other person, otherwise it would not bother me.

I try to avoid all ins mate but he went all in after I re-raised his 3 bet so what you going to do with KK, fold them?

"Thats why you are having so "bad" luck on the coin flips, because you think this is a coinflip.. Confused I would consider you to read few basic thing before you start your horse thing and play with others money! Smile"

I never said coin flip... Tongue

Other than the river suckouts and that it has been nice to be able to play poker without all the crap Ipoker gave me so it is a big difference. Things can only get better, right!

     
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I wasn't talking to you sorry Smile you didn't make anything wrongt! Ronin was calling your kk vs tt a coinflip so was just wondering what he was thinking Big Smile

     
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G'day mates

I was thinking that preflop any two pairs are basically only a 7% chance to hit a set.
There for any random pair vrs any random pair preflop is a basic coin toss to hold up during a race situation. Yes I know that KK is better then 10 10 but I do not assume that the other guy only has pairs I always put people on two live cards to error on the side of conservative caution.
I read in a couple poker book that this is a good practice that way whenever you see the cards turn and you discover you are actually 80% favoured to win it is a very pleasant surprise.

Doyle Bronson even said you should always consider your pairs preflop as just any ol pair it hurts less that way when he beats you Smile he did smile when he told this to Phil Hellmuth whom was going into a classic rant after Doyle came from behind to rape Phil for the third str8 time in a row.
It was halarious to watch and Doyles comment set several other players of into halarious laughter.
One player hand two set out 3 hands to compose himself because every time he looked at Doyle he just kept breaking out into laughter and Phil just kept going off again whenever one of them started to laugh all over again it was truly great and funny.
be cool

Ronin Cool

     
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Posted by hemuli:
I wasn't talking to you sorry Smile you didn't make anything wrongt! Ronin was calling your kk vs tt a coinflip so was just wondering what he was thinking Big Smile


I was worrying then because you know what your talking about in Poker and I don't. haha. Blink

I did not assume I would 100% win Ron's, but he had a positional advantage over me and he was a high stack so I was not willing to take the chance of playing through the streets in case he had something else than a pocket pair and was just trying to bully or steal from me using his position, plus it was a easy chance to double up with what I had made, but as usual in big pots I loss when I am ahead in a PF all in.

That said, I dropped back down a stake to the bottom as I only had $7 left and just played todays first session. Wen't rather well in the end as I clawed back to $12 something and was in profit on both tables I was playing at. Had my AA cracked a few times but I had the brains to fold before spewing more. I did have another one cracked by a set of Q's on the flop but luckily hit an Ace on the turn so for once I got a cooler. Back to where I started so it is still good.

Anyone know why it takes ages to gain VPP's on Stars? Only have 70 from a weeks playing already and I have 4 from when I last played a year back.

@Jibberish

This blog is not that great of a read as I have moaned a lot about things. I like moaning, but it makes me a losing player in this thread. My old blog was better as I was a winning player and even had picture stats until I blew my BR.

Downloaded HM2 last night(Downloaded it before but it never worked) and it said my trial had run out. I prefer using Pokertracker so when I have saved up enough I need to buy it, but don't know if ifs better to buy the full holdem version or the micro stakes version which is cheaper.

Edited by Phisix (20 January 2014 @ 17:44 GMT)


     
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I like pokertracker better too Thumbs Up

     
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Posted by RoninHarper:
I was thinking that preflop any two pairs are basically only a 7% chance to hit a set.
There for any random pair vrs any random pair preflop is a basic coin toss to hold up during a race situation. Yes I know that KK is better then 10 10 but I do not assume that the other guy only has pairs I always put people on two live cards to error on the side of conservative caution.


I'm not sure if I understood you correctly so please ignore me if im saying something stupid Big Smile

But phisix said he 3bet the villain OOP, so I believe it was a blind vs steal situation...
And I believe KK is in very good shape against an average micro-stake player's 4bet-shove range.

KK vs {77+,KQs,AQs+,AKo} : 71% vs 29%
KK vs {TT+,AKo,AKs} : 66% vs 33%
KK vs {JJ+,AKs} : 61% vs 39%

The shove range could also be capped if he's being tricky with aces and tries to induce a 5bet shove. If you remove AA from the shove range, KK is totally crushing it.

So what I'm trying to say here is , even if he "only has a pair", it is KK, the second best starting hand, and he is coinflipping only if villain is 4betshoving only like 2,5% or tighter.


Sorry for hijacking your thread Phisix Big Smile

GL guys Smile

Edited by djpremier (20 January 2014 @ 18:47 GMT)


     
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Posted by RoninHarper:
G'day mates

I was thinking that preflop any two pairs are basically only a 7% chance to hit a set.
There for any random pair vrs any random pair preflop is a basic coin toss to hold up during a race situation. Yes I know that KK is better then 10 10 but I do not assume that the other guy only has pairs I always put people on two live cards to error on the side of conservative caution.
I read in a couple poker book that this is a good practice that way whenever you see the cards turn and you discover you are actually 80% favoured to win it is a very pleasant suprise


U consider any pair against any other pair a coinflip? Ur holding KK and u say that u play against any random pair its a flip? KK is pretty strong hand like djpremier said, the second best hand Smile

So you play like the other is holding 2 jokers in his hand or what? And then the book told u that its a pleasant suprise when ur 80% up? Sorry im getting confused, not the first time so my bad Smile

@phisix

For sure i am THINKING I know something until almost everyday I learn something new Smile just trying to discuss things with people who see things the other way as I do..

     
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Don't mind the hi-jacking guys it's good reading so keep it up. Smile

I was actually thinking he had AA at first but most people would shove KK in that position anyway but then I thought he could be trying to bluff me or bully me with something smaller(I was right as he had 1010) Tbh I would call an PF all in KK about 90% of the time unless there are more than three people in it.

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This site is really starting to piss me off now with pre flop all ins. Had AA in MP and raised 3x the BB then got a massive 3 bet from someone on the button, and then someone in the BB called, so I went all in knowing I had them beat. Both called. Nice I though as one guy showed JJ and the fish of the table called with KQ. Worst hand wins again as he spiked a K on the flop and a Q on the turn. I know he had more outs post flop but come on I always get my money in good and once again lose. Luckily I only lost 3 quarters of my $2.70 BI but I could have made $3 profit but as usual I lose. Bah.

Other than that everything is going well but it just proves I will always lose big pots when I am favourite pre flop.

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Just had a really great session domination both the tables I was on. Decent profit on both tables. Getting pissed off with hitting sets though. Every time I get them stars likes to give out four or five street suited cards gifting the person who was well behind a win. Three times I had it and its pissing me off, I can never get a set without a draw of any kind flopping as well.

Bankroll: $18.14

Could have been around $25 if not for the coolers and suckouts which this site always gives people when they have no way to win.

Edited by Phisix (20 January 2014 @ 23:25 GMT)


     
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