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I only played SNAP tables. More volume and faster for my needs.
Managed to get back to $24. It was a solid going night apart from on stupid call I made without realizing until the last minute. I had $10 on one of my tables and someone went all in for $5 and I accidentally clicked on call with A6s. I was like shiiiiiiiii and the other guy had A2s(UTG) I was like like wtf and laughed until he flopped a two and had straight and flush draws and obviously hit them. Such a stupid thing to call while rolling a smoke while two tabling lol.
I think I have also bet the 3.1 points for every $1 of my $10 bonus now so it should be withdraw-able now, so now to take things more seriously.
------------ Running bad again. So many OOP small callers and getting sets when I have TPTK. Whenever I get a set everyone always folds and I get no action but when against me they always get action and a lot of my money since I always think they are chasing which most of the time someone us. Card dead all the time and people calling with crap like J5s and hitting two 7's when I have 88. Speaking of pocket pairs, every time I have one someone always has a higher one.
Down to last $10 now so another night of being down $14. Left as annoyed and know I will lose more if I don't. I will try later and see what happens when I am more calm. Wish me luck, because it will be sick if I go busto after all of this hard work I have done lately. Story of my poker life though. Chins up.
------------ The fourth night in a row I crush both tables and I am up nearly $10. But the pattern I keep seeing every night is at a certain point variance comes and kicks me back down. I think this site is rigged against me or something. I cannot win any flips when I am favourite or they suck out and the constant chasers always hitting as well as me going card dead or flop dead.
Pissed off with this. back to $10. had enough of this crap.
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G'day mate
Just dropped in to wish you well. Snap and zoom tables eh? you will never learn amigo. good luck to you Hope you have a great day. Good luck at the tables. May you build your bankroll ten fold. be cool
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Snap is where I play my best poker and win the most actually. Just having a lot of negative variance against me this last four days. Luckily I still have a bankroll which is good, but if things wen't my way I should be beyond $50 by now but poker can do that I guess. It's just annoying how I am playing so well on both tables then things just start going downhill in everything.
I guess not going busto is +EV I guess.
------------ Been having a great session and was just over $25. Getting fed up with when I get sets. I either get them and everyone folds, or I get them and every tom, d**k and harry chase and hit. I already have to fold one on the turn because I knew both hit a flush and then just lost to a straight chaser when I wasent thinking.
Stupid call as I was not paying attention but why do chasers always hit when chasing 90% of time, but I rarely hit mine. Luckily I am following BRM and I am only $3 or under down. But I have been against three hands in the last ten minutes and every chaser has hit. I really hate this game sometime.
------------ And now here comes the b******t. Fucking furious. It's a constant thing against me lately. Play and do well and the constant shite.
#Game No : 598039481 ***** 888poker Snap PokerHand History for Game 598039481 ***** $0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** Table Casoria 6 Max (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: PokerCPT ( $3.17 ) Seat 2: Phisix ( $2.91 ) Seat 4: grabchipsAA ( $2.41 ) Seat 6: spiritualmpa ( $1.31 ) Seat 7: shel2577 ( $0.33 ) Seat 9: GarethGlo24 ( $2.33 ) Phisix posts small blind [$0.01] grabchipsAA posts big blind [$0.02] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Phisix [ Ac, Ad ] spiritualmpa raises [$0.04] shel2577 calls [$0.04] GarethGlo24 folds PokerCPT folds Phisix raises [$0.19] grabchipsAA folds spiritualmpa calls [$0.16] shel2577 folds ** Dealing flop ** [ 2h, Js, 6c ] Phisix bets [$0.32] spiritualmpa raises [$1.11] Phisix calls [$0.79] ** Dealing turn ** [ 6h ] ** Dealing river ** [ Qs ] ** Summary ** Phisix shows [ Ac, Ad ] spiritualmpa shows [ Qd, Qh ] spiritualmpa collected [ $2.55 ]
Kill me now.
------------ Finally started running good again and actually left on profit for the first time in god knows how many days. A lot of fish and stupid players who thankfully was on my receiving end.
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All night I have been rivered by a set when I have had a higher pair. About five times this has happened now. Variance really hates me at the moment. I havent lost much from my BR but I must have lost about $30 tonight already from all the winnings I have made and lost. Such bollocks sometimes.
Take this hand: Knew know one had a Q after checking the flop and tiny betting the turn. Sods law loses me money again.
------------ First five minutes of today's first session and luck out b******t already. Always get my money in good and I always lose. Whats this b******t about
#Game No : 598654711 ***** 888poker Snap PokerHand History for Game 598654711 ***** $0.02/$0.05 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** Table Arlington 6 Max (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: Phisix ( $4.85 ) Seat 2: MarckNick ( $10.63 ) Seat 4: kursk19 ( $2.48 ) Seat 6: Jerzy1958 ( $0.93 ) Seat 7: grabchipsAA ( $5 ) Seat 9: thomask82 ( $8.75 ) MarckNick posts small blind [$0.02] kursk19 posts big blind [$0.05] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Phisix [ Kd, Kc ] Jerzy1958 folds grabchipsAA raises [$0.15] thomask82 folds Phisix calls [$0.15] MarckNick folds kursk19 raises [$0.77] grabchipsAA folds Phisix calls [$0.67] ** Dealing flop ** [ 7c, 8s, Kh ] kursk19 bets [$1.66] Phisix calls [$1.66] ** Dealing turn ** [ Js ] ** Dealing river ** [ Ts ] ** Summary ** Phisix shows [ Kd, Kc ] kursk19 shows [ Qd, As ] kursk19 collected [ $4.88 ]
How much more can I keep losing to short stacked players donking with nothing and getting miracles. I know it's not rigged but variance really hates me lately. I hope everyone else who plays cash is having a better run than me.
------------ If it isnt suckouts its set up's. Like I said, always a higher pocket pair when I have one.
------------ OH LOOK AT THIS. ANOTHER FUCKER SET VS SET SETUP this game is a fucking rigged set up pile of s**t. Action hands all the time for fucking rake. Cunts.
------------ All that hard work again and as usual I get fucked over with constant s**t, chasers or set vs set set ups. Like I said, when I have a set and no one else does I get no action but when someone does against me or has a better one theres always action.
------------ People say sets are rare but no I see them more then you should. Bulls**t rigged set up game, as per in cash games.
------------ Busto I am done with this s**t now. Weeks of hard grafting and as usual I just get fucked over. You could argue with me being on a higher stake but 0.1/0.2 is fucking boring and you get fucked over by calling stations 24/7.
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Been a few weeks since I updated. Taking things a bit better this last week and this time wanted to take my BR tight since we have all established my busto and money losses is due to stake jumping(I never learn from my mistakes :/) Deposited $10 and managed to reach $40 the other day but not played since then. Basically I am fully rolled for 2NL so I will continue until I am on $80/100 so I can start grinding 5NL. Bloody hate 2NL but at least I cannot go busto. Wish me luck this time.
Hey m8 ,...... When u have trouble to keep youre bankrollmanagement Tight,.. Maybe its a idea to set table limits in pokerstars options? There u can set for example for now only 0,01/0.02 cents.. When u want to change it again it take 24 hours to set a higher table,..... Sooo u can cool down for 24 hours and maybe you think 0.01/0.02 is good.. When u bored try play more table's .. Buy in for half/ore the max buy-in (normaly half buy in but its 0.80 cents so) Play tight ...double up and run And start over again with same amount,and just repeat that double up out.. When u loose one time 1,60 $ is always better then when u bigstack and get a nast suckout....
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They could be a good idea actually but I don't really like Stars anymore and only have a BR on 888. My problem is stake jumping when I lose a little bit. If I didn't do that to 20NL last time I could have saved that $140 I made from a $3.50 freeroll win.
At 888 you can also set table limits I am playing at a other pokersite..... Started with 10 euro playing cashgame buy-in 2 euro... Double up ore more i run.... Come back with 2 euro........
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Not bad at all and a much safer bankroll of course. I have been doing really well lately and find myself on $73 at the moment. See how things goes but I wont be jumping up to 20nl like I did last time and lose it all.
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Been on a great run lately, not on a heater but I am running into a lot of peoples stupid actions and stuff and my hands and plays are doing what they should be against these players: winning. Everything seems to be going my way even though the suckouts, chases and losing when I get my money in good. Currently on $115 and quit so I could bank.
Now I am properly rolled for 5NL. Cannot wait until I have enough to play 10NL fulltime as it'smy favourite stake since I always make tons there. Not liking the dollar to pound conversion though. If I cashed out now I would only make £70. Meh. I also just recieved a free $10 on Party Poker for it's Casino so hopefully I can get a roll going on that by playing little bets on the slots.
The most important thing lately though is my tilt is being controlled a bit better and of course I have not moaned for a long time. Weird huh?
Be carefull for the downswing Its nice to hear that you doing good.....and u rolled for nl5... Sooo what are the plans when u moving up to nl10.... What kind off roll you will play fulltime Nl10 ore maybe take a shot? Good luck in the games for today
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Yeah I have been waiting for it and in the last three days I have had two break even/just under sessions, then a bad run then ran hot again.
My plans with NL10 like always is to take little shots at it like last time. 888 10NL Snap is usually where I play my best but a shot and hit and run here now and again while playing NL5 works. Currently on $150.12 as of last night when I won a bit on 5NL and 10NL and also unlocked two separate $5 bonus's. I am now well rolled for 5NL and can keep taking shots at NL10 if I need too. Only $50 more and I am minimum rolled for 10NL so it is worth it especially since my shots have been going well every time.
After that I will nit grind 10NL as 30NL on 888 Snap features better players, more fish and more set ups so I won't play those stakes until I am beyond 30 BI's for that stake.
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Not doing great actually. Lost a couple of BI's on 10NL last night due to fish and always hitting one card needed and tilted myself to 50NL and eventually lost most of my BR to set ups, bad calls and crap. Funnily enough it was not angry tilt just wanting my money back and of course I should have just quit or jump down the stakes after the first few losses.
On the plus side I still have a BR so I can just start over again.
------------ And my hatred for poker returns. This last month I have been playing some great poker and it has been going well but now it is constant lose after lose after loss when I am always the better player or odds or fucking whatever.
Obviously I am stupid for losing all of that money which is my fault so I deserve to lose it, but I am getting fucking fed up with these b******t idiot shite poker players who always seem to beat me even though I am 90% a better player then them and playing great against them all of the time. Either that or the good old "set up" action hands all of these sites like to do.
Was on my last $11 today and came online after a good night and thought I would play. 20 minutes later and I was up to £23 playing some great poker. No idiot calls, chasing or mistakes just good poker. Of course poker sods law has to come and gift all the bad players wins constantly and take my bankroll. I hate low stakes, players just call any raise or bet with anything and ALWAYS manages to hit two pair or something. Set up city. Ended up losing to crap time and time again until I was on my last £5 until the last hand I had was the old set up city AA VS KK. Standard and lost. Funny how in two weeks of playing when I have had AA everyone folds or I never run into many QQ/KK.
Busto again, pissed off and skint. Not a happy Phisix at all, even though it was my fault for stake jumping again, but never bad play just b******t.
Maybe next time, but poker is starting to piss me off. Not poker itself, but these players who are shite but always seem to LUCK out.
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Been playing freerolls this past week as I cannot deposit on 888 until Tuesday. Don't know if it is variance or me being basically card dead but I have been on a bad boring run all week. Nothing to get angry or anything about though but a nice bankroll start would be nice.
Got that big living the dream 888freeroll so hopefully I luck changes in that.
Speaking of luck, after three years of playing I finally hit my first ever Royal Flush today and in a freeroll of all things:
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Had a good day overall in freerolls. Cashed in two pokerstars 20fpp bronze star MTT's netting myself $1.20 and I have just turned it into $2.50 so far on Zoom.
I also jut finished 301/10000 people in the 888 Living the dream freeroll and netted myself $1.50 just one place away from an extra 25 cents. I played a blinder but as usual once I hit the money I go card dead and get put on tables with mega stacks so I just had to wait for a decent hand to push. Pushed my last 25k and could have been up to 60k with AQo but the biggest stack in the tournament called with 45o and of course hit's two pair. I really am unlucky with coin flips as I always lose, especially deep in a MTT.
No matter maybe one day, but I have two tiny 1BI bankrolls to play with and see if I can grind them until something.
ok, this hand - You should probably fold pre-flop, small PPs UTG are extremely difficult hands to play profitably.. If you have tracking software, check all your small PPs played from UTG and I'd be extremely surprised if you saw a profit.. That aside, it's not a terrible call, it's just marginal and generally leaning slightly on the -EV side, the exceptions are generally extremely table-dynamic/villian specific (i.e; you have a good reason to believe it's profitable vs the standard negative expectation of such a call).
But moving on:
You need to play boards like this with a view of pot-control, you flopped a set, which is great, but the board is extremely connected, in fact- someone could have even flopped a straight, holding 67. As well as the danger of straights, it's an extremely wet board for another reason; flushes.. So immediately, if you flop a set on a board with great straight AND flush potential - the aim is to get to show-down (folding your set is a weak play) and pay as little as possible. Basically- you want to essentially check/call the whole way through, the only reason to alter into a raising pattern is if you improve to a full house / quads.
Instead, on the flop, you put in a huge raise (and get calls).. OK -not the worst play, it's a fairly wet board, you have a strong hand, you want to make people PAY to see the turn, ok, fine.
Turn comes and completes another straight and a MUCH more dangerous one too: 10J is a VERY commonly played hand.. At this stage, you basically want to get to the river without putting anything else into the middle.. Pot-Control should be the only guiding factor at this stage, you have show-down value, but you're facing a very dangerous board. Basically -you want to check it through and hope you get away with it. If somoene puts in a decent bet, then you need to make a tough decision about either calling or folding.
Instead-you rapidly inflate the pot as much as possible. This is the exact opposite of what you need to be doing.
Yes, you were unlucky to flop a set and lose to a better hand.. And, almost everyone in this situation would also lose at the river.. The difference is, playing the hand correctly still would have lead to losing the hand, but it shouldn't have cost you that much.. Pot-Control is key in this hand and your lack of pot-control is the reason you lost a lot instead of a little. I'm guessing you must have been on tilt.
Posted by Phisix: ------------ And now here comes the b******t. Fucking furious. It's a constant thing against me lately. Play and do well and the constant shite.
okay... seeing a pattern here... Once again, unlucky, but why that huge bet? The idea of huge hands like AA/KK is to HOPEFULLY manage to get in a large amount of your stack pre-flop (ideally, you raise, then get 3bet and hopefully you can 4bet, etc). However, if you end up seeing a flop, with AA/KK and the pot is small.. then once again, you need to exercise pot-control.. You need to consider- why would someone who has only put in a few BBs pre-flop / on the flop want to get the rest of their stack in, if they only have a pair? Basically by raising a huge amount, you pretty much ensure that all the hands you beat, fold and all the hands the beat you, call..
You need to think about the villains hand, as well as your own.. Yes - you have a strong hand - but when you make a bet, you have to ask "What is a good amount to bet, that would entice people with a weaker hand to call?" and when you decide on a bet amount, consider this "If I had a hand, worse than a pair of kings, would I call this bet?" If the answer is 'no', then it's a bad bet, you're essentially turning a monster hand (KK) into a bluff. It's like you're daring the villain to have a better hand, or more to the point, you're doing it in spite of your own good hand.
There's nothing wrong with getting it all in, on the flop, or turn, with ONLY a pair of KK or AA, but only if the play/pot calls for it.. If you've got in a third of your stack pre-flop for example, then there's no issue stacking-off on the flop with KK.. But if you only manage to get in a normal raise pre-flop, then you need to consider that people aren't going to go all-in with worse than a pair, because the pot-odds aren't there.
Posted by Phisix:
#Game No : 598039481 ***** 888poker Snap PokerHand History for Game 598039481 ***** $0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** Table Casoria 6 Max (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: PokerCPT ( $3.17 ) Seat 2: Phisix ( $2.91 ) Seat 4: grabchipsAA ( $2.41 ) Seat 6: spiritualmpa ( $1.31 ) Seat 7: shel2577 ( $0.33 ) Seat 9: GarethGlo24 ( $2.33 ) Phisix posts small blind [$0.01] grabchipsAA posts big blind [$0.02] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Phisix [ Ac, Ad ] spiritualmpa raises [$0.04] shel2577 calls [$0.04] GarethGlo24 folds PokerCPT folds Phisix raises [$0.19] grabchipsAA folds spiritualmpa calls [$0.16] shel2577 folds ** Dealing flop ** [ 2h, Js, 6c ] Phisix bets [$0.32] spiritualmpa raises [$1.11] Phisix calls [$0.79] ** Dealing turn ** [ 6h ] ** Dealing river ** [ Qs ] ** Summary ** Phisix shows [ Ac, Ad ] spiritualmpa shows [ Qd, Qh ] spiritualmpa collected [ $2.55 ]
Now - this one is really unlucky, but, if you hadn't played the other two hands wrong and lost so much on them, this wouldn't seem so bad..
From what I can see, basically you only think about your own hand and not the villains hand..
My honest advice to you is to learn A) It's okay to fold AA/KK- everyone says 'yeah I know' - but in practice, VERY few people actually have the discipline to lay-down these hands. Or to lay down sets- it's really hard to do.
But - folding big hands isn't really the issue - they're generally marginal folds anyhow and in most cases where it is correct to fold AA/KK or a set, it's only marginally better, so it's not a huge deal.
But the real problem I see is that you don't exercise pot-control. Stacking-off on AA/KK is fantastic, if you can build the right kind of pot / action.. But in many situations, you need to understand that with AA/KK you'll probably only win a small amount of money, trying to FORCE a different result just ends in disaster. Because you'll find, if you're over-betting these hands, most times villains are folding and you're losing equity, because you could have made some smaller bets and won a little bit more.. And then, even worse - these the times they're NOT folding to your over-bets and that is because they have you beat.
So basically, when you DO have the best hand, you're probably not extracting the most value, because you're betting too much and getting people to fold their marginal holdings, instead of extracting a little bit more value. And when you DON'T have the best hand, you're losing the MAXIMUM amount, because you're over-playing your hand..
You probably wonder why it seems like every time you play a big pot with AA/KK you lose, its because you're playing too many big pots with these hands.. The reality is, like with most other hands, it's rarely the right play to go allin.. Most times with AA/KK you'll probably just win a tiny amount - for example a huge percentage of the time, you'll probably take down the pot pre-flop, because people fold to 3bets, etc. And then - the times you do see a flop, its most likely because you opened and everyone just called, so you see a flop, but the pot is small, in which case - you should be trying to keep it small and get to show-down, because you have great show down value.
It's only the rare occasion, where you get AA and someone else happens to have AK and maybe you had AA a couple hands earlier and bet big and now you're doign it again and the person with AK thinks you're full of it and keeps raising you and then BAM - you end up getting your whole stack in and you stack them AA vs AK... but those situations are rare.. You're trying to force them and you're paying dearly.
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Thanks for the post it's appreciated and was good advice. Your right with the pot control, I need to learn how to do it. I usually bet big as I get scared of draws and stuff. It just goes to show I still have a million years to go in this game.
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Have you taken any good breaks lately to calm down and rethink your strategy? Also which pot control you ae taling about. The one you smoke, or the one you bet ? Its is a big difference And if you lose control in both of them at the same time, results can be very bad
Posted by Mober: Have you taken any good breaks lately to calm down and rethink your strategy? Also which pot control you ae taling about. The one you smoke, or the one you bet ? Its is a big difference And if you lose control in both of them at the same time, results can be very bad
Yea how is it going,... Breaks are not bad iff you loosing money,.. Did you wright things down that makes you tilt,.. And put it in the sight of the pc/laptop were you play poker on,... A good thing is to write down what happens when you loose a hand... Do you shout at the player that doesnt hear you.. You curse?? Ore something else.... Take a note and if something of the list happens a few times to quit,'
