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  23-Oct-13, 18:30   #21
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Posted by Phisix:
Posted by sergejcho:
Posted by Phisix:
Indeed, but playing freerolls can be a nice distraction from cash players too, especially when you have nothing to lose.

I aggre with you , and i want to say , that u have very nice freerolls on many platforms because if you have for a example Chromestar at pokerstars i think that you will like to play freerolls or maybe platinum star and you gonna crazy Smile)) come on nobody want to play freerolls but EPTLive Tournament for 1500$ was full with 30k players Smile

Exactly, and with some sites the higher you rank up the better the freerolls are, like 888, every rank up you do you get a bigger prized freeroll.

Its okey i dont know yet about 888 poker freerolss and etc.... but what i know is next ....
I play Online poker for 2 years (not fully) and i play freerolls because with that i try to improve my game and many many things. But if you think that players on Sitngo's and Ring games or payed tournamets are donks Shock Shock Shock

  23-Oct-13, 20:20   #22
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f/rolls are alright if you are playing them in conjunction with some other games,i wouldn't personally play only them but there are people who do play only f/rolls and make some decent money too.

  24-Oct-13, 04:35   #23

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in a sense it's all good which game one chooses to play...have noticed tho that cash game STT and MTT boards come out quite different than in freerolls...just may be my experience with them...so wud rather play cash than free Smile

  24-Oct-13, 05:40   #24
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Freerolls are the best chance to make somthing from NOTHING . Now we have platforms with very very big freerolls. I'll take Winner Poker for example. I affiliated my account from Bankrollmob , AND I GOT STATUS VIP just because signing from Bankrollmob.
And as a VIP member i have access to

4x 25$ welcome freeroll ( 4 tournaments in 1 week) 100 + entrans
1x 50$ VIP freeroll once a week
1x 100$ Vip Freeroll once a week
1x 1000$ VIP freeroll once a week
1x5000$ VIP Freeroll once in a mounth.

So if i dont play tournaments i think that my bankroll will stay on same level Smile

  24-Oct-13, 07:29   #25

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Most players here the stories of a people who played the regular standard daily freerolls (not the special ones) and never deposited and went onto win BIG, these players are few and far between, but compared to how many people play them you will need a great deal of luck to be one of the fortunate few.

The best advice I give friends new to poker about freerolls is do play them to practice test-out what you learn, read watched etc ..regardless of the bad beats suck out bad play, you have to except that is inevitable and stick to your A game in them no matter what....correct play is key to crossing over...

if you don't you will pick up VERY Bad Habits and CARRY THEM OVER when you decide or think your ready for real cash or you believe your ready to take a gamble in regular buy-ins,
bad decision, for thousands of players, this is actually why, imo we have so many bad-poker play players at the tables ..blame FREEROLLS

After saying that they are needed for to many reasons to be explained and I do play them when on bad run just for the heck of it. but they are a great way to practice your moves you learn, but game discipline mainly is best test here...not even Doyle can take the freerolls he said he would have no chance there lol Blink he tried he couldn't hack it lol.

So use them, learn from them and get out of them as soon as you can, I don't mean to give them up...as the special freerolls are usually good dealsI enjoy the odd 4-6 freerolls a week but nothing over if possible. ..the hours are not worth it on long run, unless... Blink
gg gl Diamond

  24-Oct-13, 10:15   #26
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Location: Israel
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I just quit the non-turbo freerolls. They are too long and boring and offer no compensation for my time (a few cents for more than 4 hours of play. I still play the turbo freerolls because they have action and even a tight player can enjoy the game on all levels of the game.
Anyway for me it is still better than playing on facebook or for play money. If I have money in my account I usually don't play regular freerolls.

  24-Oct-13, 12:11   #27
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there are freerolls on which u can make money, but not at pokerstars and fulltillt. everything that has more than 80players is wasting time, cause pricepool is not deep enough, when u cash after 4hours 20cent its horror.

so look out for ipoker freerolls, best are some called weekly depositors freerolls, not at titan, but on mansion and betred u have only 30-80players with pricepool of 250$.

  24-Oct-13, 13:14   #28
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I find it doesn't matter if you play freerolls, or real money sngs, tournaments or even cash games. If you don't play with an actual significant amount of money most players will have ridiculous playing styles and try to beat you in every hand that you play. Aww crap!

  24-Oct-13, 14:31   #29

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It seems that no one mentions "the joy of playing the game".

I could care less about the money, unless it becomes a significant income (let's say $75K per year).
I don't think that even the best players here come close to that, so the argument of too much time spent for little money, does not really apply (or at least this is also true for cash games etc...).

I still jump off the couch, pumping my fists every time when I win a freeroll for $6 against 1500 players; the money is irrelevant.

I play cash as well, with about a 9bb/100 win rate (measured from when I first started playing), but that does not earn me too much money (comparable to playing freerolls exclusively, albeit with much less time invested, since my cash-sessions are much shorter).

As for the level of play, from what I've seen, the final few tables of a freeroll seem to have better players, than an average micro stakes cash game IMO...

So, just play what you enjoy the most, I'd say...

  25-Oct-13, 15:52   #30
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marqis has a point there.
If for example you wont just to spend some time playing poker, relaxing, instead of playing
fun games you may play as well freerolls with the possibility to win some cash.
But on the other hand though, this might have an opposite effect and instead of relaxing
you might get stressed making it to the money Smile

  25-Oct-13, 16:09   #31

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There are some good freerolls to be played every now and then.
I don't play many but some loyalty freerolls are worth playing.
I've finished 4th of 6000 on party $500 freeroll for $20 so don't play anything that big anymore.
Had $200 for 1st in a freeroll from the christmas Calander last year
Also try the ukipt freerolls on the stars app every now and then but that's it at the moment
Most freerolls aren't worth playing with 1000s of players or small prizes. An the point that they teach you bad play is a very valid one, I play ones worth playing from time to time but generally stick to cash tournaments and sngs. I think freerolls don't give you a good understanding of bet sizes and bluffing.

  25-Oct-13, 18:03   #32
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It's all about the level on which you are, i mean if you are regular at NL/PLO 25 playing freerolls si seriously -EV...

As some said above there are freerolls that are easy to make a few free cash and are worth playing.

  25-Oct-13, 21:26   #33

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I hear ya,....and I've quit playing 'some' of them! You have to be carefull that THEY don't influence your style of play elsewhere for money.

I don't mind the 100K Priviledges... The idiots and donks don't last too long and the game gets pretty good,....AND you can win some decent money for FREE. Only have to make a $10 deposit once a month to get 120 of them, of which I play 90! Worth it to me...! Smile Thumbs Up

  26-Oct-13, 13:46   #34

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You can lose AA or the KK against any hand ...doesn't matter to me i know if you don't give up and

keep playing tight... free roll or no free roll ...one day your luck is going to change.. i don't spend to

much money whit depositing is long time ago that i had to do that i am happy if i can make 200$ a

month whitout depositing and that is realy possible i done it many times not on 1 site i play at lots of

poker sites last 2 weeks i won on 3 sites like this 35$ 145$ and 50$ whitout any deposit it is

just a hobby for me...i love the game ....and whit this free money i can buy in other tournaments

whit lower player field ... Smile good luck to all off you

  29-Oct-13, 04:43   #35
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i just lost in the 100k privilege free roll i had 73o on my BB only a min raise so i defended my bb + plenty of limpers so i had great pot odds to defend, anyway flop came 7 Heart k Heart 5 Spade someone bets i call few other people call turn was 3 Spade so i make two pair (this is within the top 3000 of 18000 entrants btw so 300 places off being in the money as top 2700 get paid, so thie guy bets 2600 about half a pot size bet i have about 9000 behind everyone else in the hand folds and i shove all in, he calls turning over 4 Heart 5 Heart so he has bottom pair and a flush draw total donk river was a 9 Heart this is why i hate freerolls, irsking your entire stack on a flush draw? what an absoulute idiot

  29-Oct-13, 05:40   #36

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i dn't think u should of defending ur bb with 73os very risky here ..a fold best on long run, your out of position pre/post flop, on a draw heavy board, u caught 7h mid pr ..risky k & str8 + flush draws , 7h sucked u in the hand when ur 3hit turn for 2 pr/ big mistake shoving hee tho, as the donk was never gonna fold pot-comm, to many OUTS for him to fold, a check-cal/foldl best here, if u called then, u must check fold to a shove or big raise on river, as u have a very risky 2pr .., by the way what was villains position?-mid/late-pos?

u defo shouldn't be in the hand here.but shoving was .main mistake..sometimes let them blinds go and get more value on a descent hand challenge,,,ul tho Diamond

  1-Nov-13, 18:01   #37
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Posted by IceQueenAce:
Freerolls can be very profitable if played for fun ($800 for me this year alone so far).

I would say though, they are actually a terrible way to learn the game and I certainly wouldn't advise learning mtt strat playing fr's

i totally agree with you icequeenace. there are some very profitable freerolls out there....if the player
pool is limited in any way like the $ 500 birthday freeroll on ipoker for example or some vip freerolls.

freerolls with $ 100 pricepool and thousands of players are wast of time and a terrible way to learn the game.
bingo poker like said befor( as bad as play money games)

quote; Its okey i dont know yet about freerolss and etc.... but what i know is next ....
I play Online for 2 years (not fully) and i play freerolls because with that i try to improve my game and many many things.

playing this turnaments is probably the worst way to improve your game in my opinion.i played a lot
freerolls along the way and the only thing you can learn is the structur of a MMT .....

cheers Spade

Edited by hazeform (01 November 2013 @ 18:08 GMT)

  1-Nov-13, 21:20   #38
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Location: Netherlands
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It is not easy to win money with freerolls, but personally i play them as addition while im playing something else (mostly SnG). I find that if you get really deep in the freeroll the disappointment isnt that big because you still have other games running.

It is also a very good way to learn the game if you are a starting player because almost every element will be present in most freerolls because not only fish but also experienced players will often attain these games.

Good luck to all, and dont give up after a bad streak Smile

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