Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Posted by xgcsnippy: I have been playing poker lately and winning 75% of my sit n goes....lose it in cash game so im sticking with the sit n goes to build mine....
pokerstars i won 123 in one and lost that bankroll within 2 weeks
Maybe you did not use proper bankroll management? Anyway, it's good that you're having good results in sngs. I don't really do well in sngs that's why I'm sticking to cash games. Good luck
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 224
Posted by xgcsnippy: I have been playing poker lately and winning 75% of my sit n goes
how many games have u played? :O 75% in the long run is impossible, even the best SNG guys I know dont make that.. And do you mean by winning: first place or just in the money? Either way its pretty good!
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
I decided to post graphs twice a week. Almost 7k hands. Here it is!
My hud seems to have a problem with the real money I won and the value it puts on the graphs. But the difference is only small so I don't mind at all.
Bankroll $43.30 I'm also halfway on collecting points for the $10 bonus, so I'm expecting to get it next week. Skrill money still hasn't arrive yet though.
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 1242
Well it looks like you had a really good start and you are doing well and you crush this limit according to this graph. Keep up the good work and stick to a proper bankroll management. GL for building up a decent roll
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
It's still a small sample size so I wouldn't really say that I'm crushing this limit but thanks With descent bankroll I'm already confident playing and not be afraid to lose a buy in or 2. Caught many fishes recently. Some random guy just shoves 56o on my set. It's also easy to trap them, you just check to them and they'll be betting to bluff you. That's what I noticed so far. I only encountered a few regs in nl2 so all is going good so far.
------------ Would like to give an update today as I think my playstyle changed a bit. I think I was playing very loose aggressive game today, got -EV vs my profit but my non-showdown winnings went above 0.
Posted by adok: Would like to give an update today as I think my playstyle changed a bit. I think I was playing very loose aggressive game today, got -EV vs my profit but my non-showdown winnings went above 0.
Anyone who's expert at this can enlighten me?
I'm no expert, but your graph indicates that you won more money in all in situations than the expected value. E.g. if you go all in and you are 80% favorite to win the pot (lets say a $10 pot), your EV (expected value) is $8, yet you win $10, that means you now run $2 above All-in EV. If you were to lose the hand you'd be running $8 below All-n EV. The more hands you play, the closer your profit will converge to your all-in EV. In your case you had luck on your side, since your profit exceeds all-in EV.
The sample size is way too small, but it may indicate that the change in playing style may not be a profitable one.
The increase in non-showdown, indicates you may be stealing more, or are betting bigger (making your opponents fold before showdown).
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
What a bad day. I brought my bankroll up to $50 during my morning session then hit a massive downswing now. -$20 A lot of bad beats and it really got me tilted. I had to cut my session to 200+ hands cause I already lost a lot. Guess no more poker for tonight
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Finland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 46
Its always really dangerous to slow play a set. If you don´t raise then there really isn´t anyway for you to know how strong a hand you are up against. Set really isn´t that strong a hand unless you manage to make a full house of it. And Im not saying this because of the result we see here, rather because I have made the same mistake myself so many times.
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Posted by Gun2her: Its always really dangerous to slow play a set. If you don't raise then there really isn't anyway for you to know how strong a hand you are up against. Set really isn't that strong a hand unless you manage to make a full house of it. And Im not saying this because of the result we see here, rather because I have made the same mistake myself so many times.
I agree with you although it depends on the texture of the board also. If it's dry you can slow play it. But against aggression, you should fight back to get value.
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 224
set is the best you can get! I think that slow playing set is not so dangerous u just have to try to put as much as you can in the pot and if slow playing is the way u think the best go for it... Im not sure how you should play in the cash games but if I got a set in a sng and with 3 same colors on the flop I just try to push everything in the flop and thats the only thing why I would push on the flop everything.. If he got the flush then its bad luck and you still got many outs but usually if you get everything in hes trying to get the flush with A high.. But if you got a set with 22 and the flop is 2 4 7 slow playing for sure will be more profitable
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1457
with slowplaying it s a kind of dilemma :
- check as you want to hide that you have probably the best hand and let othere sthink they have beter ones so they are gone try to bluff you away.
- raise as you don t wanne give the donks a free chance to hit on the turn or riiver.
- so if yuo have a set on teh flop (with a pocketpair in your hands) you have to watch out for possible straights or flushes --> but the best thing that can happen is that your opponent hits hid flush or str and you hit a FH
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Time for update. Since my massive downswing yesterday, I manage to be profitable today. I'll also post my latest graph on my first post so that it can easily be seen by people. I'll also be posting by BB won because my graph doesn't show the correct value I have won. Must be from rake computation or something. So here it is.
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Posted by hemuli: Gogogog man! Keep the way as you started don't try to steal too much as u did from 8000hands ----> Nice graph anyway!
Thanks man. It was really sad seeing such a huge downswing but I'm glad I'm back on track now.
------------
Posted by doomdy: Nice graph, but remember 10k hands is not much, there are grinders who play 10k+ hands in 1 day every day.
Thanks. It's only my first week playing that's why I still have a small volume. I'm also only 4-tabling and play 4-6 hrs a day so I think 10k hands a week is descent enough for me.
Joined: May '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 15
enjoyed reading your blog - bankroll management or tilt management will decide whether you are a profitable player in the long term. i have been solely concentrating on bankroll/tilt management while playing and if you check my blog i seem to be doing quite well at the moment. http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id...
I have had some terrible beats but kept my bankroll safe by stopping my session early and taking a break.
I don't have any software which i think would help me find leaks in my game if you can recommend a free one which tracks number of hands and the basics it would improve my game and give my blog readers good stats regarding my game. I have already used poker tracker and hold em manager trials so can't use these.
I have subscribed so i'll check back every couple of days or so
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Posted by smithy2234: enjoyed reading your blog - bankroll management or tilt management will decide whether you are a profitable player in the long term. i have been solely concentrating on bankroll/tilt management while playing and if you check my blog i seem to be doing quite well at the moment. http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id...
I have had some terrible beats but kept my bankroll safe by stopping my session early and taking a break.
I don't have any software which i think would help me find leaks in my game if you can recommend a free one which tracks number of hands and the basics it would improve my game and give my blog readers good stats regarding my game. I have already used poker tracker and hold em manager trials so can't use these.
I have subscribed so i'll check back every couple of days or so
Nate
I will definitely check your blog and hopefully get some pointers there I don't really tilt very often but when a couple of bad beat hits you repeatedly (aces/kings cracked) you can't help but ask how this guy got so luck with his rags. And yes the best thing to do when that happens is to just stop the session.
As for the software, I use Free Poker Database. Just google it. It has basic stats for opponents, graphs, hand viewer and a lot more. And the best part is, it's free The downside is it's kinda hard to configure. Just google it anyways and if you can't find anything just hit me up, I'll try to help you then. GL nate
Joined: May '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 15
Thanks Adok and yeah i have had some runner runner beats lately which really amazed/shocked/angered me. but i managed to keep my cool and end that particular session with only a minor loss. I have just downloaded that Free Poker Database and will try and get it working now and let you know how i get on
Nate
------------ Hey Adok Downloaded FPDB and it works great no trouble setting it up after using their help site and all up and running played a session which was going terribly then brought it back in a couple of hands and left the session ----- wait for it........ 13 cent up Will have a 2 table session later and can hopefully play a bit tighter and take less risks.,. Nate
Edited by smithy2234 (14 December 2013 @ 18:23 GMT)
Joined: Oct '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 54
Hi Nate, So how's the fbdb doin for you? I sure hope you like it About the bad beats, well, we really can't do anything about it except to accept that this things happen and it's part of poker. In the long run, donks like those will pay us off anyways. GL on your session nate.
Adok
------------ Start of a new week. I've just completed the $10 bonus My bankroll now is at 63.65. Managed to climb back up after the recent downswing. Here's the graph