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its crazy how much i never get action in 6max with my premiums, but in full ring your more likely to get some because there is more people which means more possible playable hands, but watch out though too there can be some major nits in full ring because blinds are every 9 hands, hands like AJ lose a lot of value too

yea both have their ups and down, i wasted KK/AA/AK at least 15 times today in just 1hr of 6hand zoom :/

also went tilt near the end of my session, which made me lose 4x BI in like 5 mins but managed to recover all but 0,5 BI :/ even if im less likely to go tilt now, it still happens when someone rivers u with their 2 outs Big Smile

gl with your zoom adventures jibber, i think the most important part is staying tilt free, so you can play your normal game and not go all in with QK (was suited tho! Big Smile) vs 3bet on 6man table >.<

Nice to see that you are still playing.

I hope you can crush this limit soon.
Keep the blog alive!

Wish you the best of luck at the tables, off the tables, behind the tables, under the tables and in your life in general.
Big Smile

I too have taken to ZOOM this month and have had some success playing full ring..... It's amazing how often AA and KK come up in the same hand and most often the AA wins however I'd win KK v AA when. K came footing down the river for trips.

I had my AA vs KK the other week and two Kings came out. Which was funny because when I have KK and I am against AA I always lose. Weird. Big Smile

You just don´t remember the times when you suck out with KK against AA. Big Smile Big Smile

Shush Blink

Evaluation of Day 6:

Played barely any hands today and none all together the prior 2-3 days. Very irresponsible of me but today during my few hands played, roughly 400 of them, I had several very interesting spots which I would most gladly like to share with all of you.

Hand Summaries: In possibly a better format? or did I fail?

Hand 1:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players

BTN: $1.06 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 11)
SB: $1.00 (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 14)
BB: $1.93 (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $2.00 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: $1.99 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (UTG+2): $2.93
MP: $2.00 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 14)
MP+1: $2.39 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $1.20 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J:spade: J:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, MP raises to $0.21, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) Q:diamond: 2:club: 6:club:
Hero bets $0.22, MP raises to $0.64, fold

MP wins $0.86

Breakdown of Hand 1:

I absolutely could not put him on a hand that would beat me, I just did not believe his story. Even though its only a 14 hand sample on him the Villain appears to be ridiculously Aggro, even compared to me! Unfortunately even though I refused to believe his hand, I felt like the fold was the safer route of action, I didn't want to book a losing session and decided that I would just have to grind it out a bit more or hope to have another hand against this Villain where my choices were clearer. I am very interested in what any of my fellow mobsters would've done here. Do all of you think its a very clear fold or was there room for a call?

Hand 2:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players

BTN: $1.64 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: $2.00 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
Hero (BB): $2.12
UTG: $1.58 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+2: $1.44 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
MP: $3.93 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 29)
MP+1: $4.30 (VPIP: 4.88, PFR: 4.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
CO: $2.61 (VPIP: 12.12, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 33)

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 9:heart: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.08, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) A:spade: A:diamond: 7:heart:
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.37, 2 players) A:club:
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20

River: ($0.77, 2 players) J:club:
Hero checks, CO bets $0.37, fold

CO wins $0.74

Breakdown of Hand 2:

This hand I also felt that I had the villain beat, but this also isn't the first time I've had this happen to me during the blog. Last time I had called them down on the river for almost a full stack and they had the Ace. Very unfortunate last time and I think that might also be part of my reasoning for making the fold. I didn't want to make a repeat mistake and so far the Villain has appeared to be fairly tight, possibly a regular on the tables also. I'm still under the impression that most players in the microstakes won't take a shot on the river without the best hand. Not to much really to say about this hand or how it played out. I probably should've just check/folded on the turn, but hey I'm open to everyone's opinion on these hands and I'm looking forward to getting feedback.

End of the Day:

Overall I feel I played much tighter then usual. At the end of the session I had a VPIP of under 20% which is extremely abnormal for me. While I still pulled a profit, even if a small one, my play seemed to be on point but I felt like I leaked an absurd amount of possible profit. I would also normally post more such as my statistics and graph but it is rather late and my session was small. Tomorrows update will be non-existent... because of the Super Bowl! Sorry about that mobsters but on Monday I will be grinding and grinding very hard at that, I hope to put in at least 3-5k hands and focus very hard on bringing this blog back into life. I wish you all a very happy Sunday and may your bets be very profitable on tomorrows game. Best of luck to you mobsters, see you soon. Smile Thumbs Up

PS. I had to edit it because something on my computer crashed but I barely managed to post half of this without having to rewrite it before it was all but lost!

Edited by Jibberish (02 February 2014 @ 04:53 GMT)

The first hand you played good in my opinion, so this is basically the way i would have also played it.

On the second hand i'm 100% convinced that he did not have the ace but the jack was in his range. With a bit more info on that player(33 hands is irrelevant especially on zoom) i would have at least called his bet.


Let me share with you with my small experience.

I've been playing zoom poker for "try" in period of time about 7 days.
Many hands every day, at least 3k/per day

Same stakes as You NL2 - FULL RING and my observations are as follow:

- Players are usually based on TWO strategies : playing only premium hands (most of them); and loose aggresive trying to steal pot , 3bets and 4bets very often, very hard to read their range.

- There was very very few 4bets on my 3bet; in 90% i had 4bet on my QQ or KK; with opponent AA

- Opponents are usually go away on the flop OR when they check the flop, it's very rare that they would go out on turn or river; usually callers on the flop have got strong hand already

- Most pots is easy to steal on the flop; especially when it is not big.

- Playing multi way pre-flop is pointless with every hand; except of AA or KK

I made a little deposit of 15$, and within 6 days made a bankroll of 45$ ( so 30 $ profit )

And then try to go up; NL 5 and NL 10 (one zoom table NL5, one NL10) and I've been busted out like 2 or 3 hours.

Because of a lot more aggression in higher lever; but my opinion is on the NL2 zoom; it's possible to achieve the goals you have posted on first message Smile

GL Smile
Dollar Dollar Dollar

I would've folded both.

Why do you donk bet in the two hands?
Do you usually make this move??? Question

I've forgot.

IMO it's nice strategy (vs big stack) to check his pre-flop raises with small pairs like 22-99; because of implied odds of course Blink. In most cases, raiser will have strong hand like AK or high pair JJ+; so in that case we have lower pair, our chance to make a set is about 18%; if we can made it and opponent will hit top pair, or low-board with overpair on his hand, it is a reasonable chance to build a huge pot, and win most of them naturally.

Small pairs are also pretty good in ZOOM play, because many players are ignoring them and waiting only for premium hands JJ+, so when then have an overpair and low cards on the board, they intend to put all their chips very often.


low pairs and suited cards = big paydays if played correctly but you can bleed a lot of chips before you make something

have to be fkn kidding me tonight. so sick lost 5 BI within 20 hands to complete b******t, im off for the night.

Edited by Jibberish (03 February 2014 @ 03:09 GMT)

Posted by teknoboy:
Playing multi way pre-flop is pointless with every hand; except of AA or KK
Small pairs are also pretty good in ZOOM play, because many players are ignoring them and waiting only for premium hands JJ+ they intend to put all their chips very often.

Sorry if I didn't get this right but these two don't really add up i think Confused

Djpremier ^^

I mean read all the context : "so when then have an overpair and low cards on the board, they intend to put all their chips very often."

So playing low pairs will gave You big chance to gain all opponents chips, if You hit a set (about 18% chance) and board will be low cards, so oppont may often have overpair Smile or in second profitable circumstance; if he had AQ,AK - he hit top pair or two ; and You have set; only in that cases; so when You have low pair on the hand like 22-99; and the board is going to look like:

Ad Kd Js You should fold practically every time;

but when is no "broadway" cards on the board, and You manage to hit a set vs opponent overpair like JJ+ all his chips is Yours; (in most cases) ; I made it many times (so don't mean always when You hit a set You will get action)

Hmm just found at that blog and want to put out some of my opinions on zoom/rush etc. 9max zoom are very tight and if you get 4bet/5bet on the micros, NL2 to NL10, then QQ is no good. And AA, KK can go all the way.

6max zoom are more loose and you can afford to go JJ+, because some stack off with AJs+.

Also zoom/rush you play more hands and if you have weakness in your game it will be more obvious as you will play many hands and you may lose more money if you tilt as you can go about 10k stretch of loses.

So about multiway pot with questionable hands like KQs, AKo, AQ, ; it's practically impossible on NL2 zoom to compete in multi pot with above hands , as a best comparing to other opponents; so in my experience is pointless and it is not profitable; You should notice that many players are playing a very less hands, that they usually do on the FR traditional table;

Yes QQ is no good at micro-stakes ZOOM poker; so QQ is too weak in most cases.

4betting is also very rare at NL2 zoom; but if You change limit to NL10; You will see huge difference Smile

at NL2 i had 4bet about 10% on my 3bet; but in NL10 it's 2-3 times more


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