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  9-Feb-14, 20:06   #21
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 5622
It happens! It's very frustrating! It's very annoying! It drives you absolutely stark starring mad!

The etiquette of poker to some does not exist or died a long long time ago!

However, what one must not do, is give up the hope of winning just because someone is lucky and the odds don't go with you!

     
  9-Feb-14, 20:33   #22
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by Calmplay:
I don't know why some of you guys are hitting hard on me, it's just a random article I found online and it's not me who is the original writer of it so why are you asking me for proof, evidence etc... I only posted it here because I thought it would be interesting in this thread and that it would bring life to it which it did BTW Big Smile


I'm not having a go at you calmplay I realize you were quoting from an article. Just saying that without evidence the article is BS.




     
  9-Feb-14, 20:35   #23
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MB30 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 488
Usually i am a great fan of conspiracy theories but in this case i have to make an exception for one major reason:If online poker is somehow rigged ,then what the f are we doing here?We keep playing and risking our money in a game that we acknowledge is rigged?We must be fools or worse!!Who knows ,perhaps in a few years someone reveals documents that proving something is wrong.But again in favor of who?Cant believe that someone who has advantage sits and play for a few bucks or plays freerolls.

     
  9-Feb-14, 20:40   #24
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Theapple 

Joined: Sep '13
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1564
you know what screw what i said earlier today, this thing is a joke :/

just lost 8 times in a row where i was like 80% to win. 1st time on the bubble with KK vs J9o , he called my shove with Q59 rainbow flop and rivered me out with anther 9.

fine, that tilted me a bit but then i lost KK vs QQ, river Q ofc, lost AKs vs A9o all in like 20 mins and yes im totally tilted. Just managed to win one hand with KK vs KT (miracle in itself) and was about to leave and cut my losses short when this happened. No seriously i cant take it anymore Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!


http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/7389185_C...

i think im the only one who is abe to lose with 2x fh on the board, having pocket aces. Ah and yes btw i did have 'sit out next bb' enabled im not joking -.-

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Turtlesaur [As Ah]
ndbcnth: folds
metrix9: folds
JORDYLEON: folds
Rtgac: folds
39jurik39: raises $0.04 to $0.06
enoemis13: calls $0.06
Turtlesaur: raises $0.18 to $0.24
iRaul21: folds
time_bomb89: folds
39jurik39: calls $0.18
enoemis13: calls $0.18
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8s Qh]
39jurik39: checks
enoemis13: checks
Turtlesaur: bets $0.22
39jurik39: calls $0.22
enoemis13: folds
*** TURN *** [Qs 8s Qh] Ace of diamonds
39jurik39: checks
Turtlesaur: bets $0.56
39jurik39: calls $0.53 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.03) returned to Turtlesaur
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8s Qh Ad] 8 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
39jurik39: shows [Qd Qc] (four of a kind, Queens)
Turtlesaur: shows [As Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
39jurik39 collected $2.17 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.25 | Rake $0.08
Board [Qs 8s Qh Ad 8c]
Seat 1: Turtlesaur (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Queens
Seat 2: iRaul21 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: time_bomb89 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ndbcnth folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: metrix9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JORDYLEON folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Rtgac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 39jurik39 showed [Qd Qc] and won ($2.17) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 9: enoemis13 folded on the Flop


     
  10-Feb-14, 16:41   #25
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Weenie 
Joined: Aug '12
Location: Slovakia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 688
Posted by Calmplay:
I don't know why some of you guys are hitting hard on me, it's just a random article I found online and it's not me who is the original writer of it so why are you asking me for proof, evidence etc... I only posted it here because I thought it would be interesting in this thread and that it would bring life to it which it did BTW Big Smile


Also nothing against you man, I just wrote my opinion about this article Smile

     
  11-Feb-14, 12:28   #26
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1859
Posted by Calmplay:
I have found an article on the net of about top 10 reasons why pokerstars is a joke, if you're a regular at this poker room you'll find some familiar things in this article...

1) In NL cash games, 95% of the time when u get heads up against one player when they have an underpair they get the set, however the overpair rarely hits the set.

2) In limit cash games, heads up or several players, the draw gets there almost everytime to crack big pockers.

3) When a short stack at a NL or fixed limit cash game is all-in, here comes the miracle card to keep the damn fish around for the rake.

4) Software keeps track of your style of play if you are tight and loose. Tight players get the big hand pre-flop or on flop and will get rivered by hyperaggressive player. If 2 hyperaggressive players are heads up, trash will flop trips only to be rivered by trashier flushes or straights.

5) When you are on your last orbit and you unclick the "post blind box" there crap software will give you QQ-AA utg+1 or +2 to set you up to lose a big pot so u will stick around to get it back or spew more chips.

6) In tournaments fold AK. Most of the time it misses but if you do flop the A or K someone will outdraw u if they get their chips in the middle. Time after time.

7) Middle of tournaments when time to make moves. Software realizes this and will give big hands to cutoff-button and bigger hands to the blinds.

8) Bubble time. Everyone is stalling for money, time to throw in the AA vs. KK BS to get things moving. Sucks if you have KK, sucks even worse when AA loses to trip kings.

9) Everytime u ask support to explain why certain patterns keep happening in certain situations over and over they keep giving you the "variance speech".

10) NO bad beat jackpot. How fast would this site go belly-up if they threw in additional cash to off-set their ridiculously bad beats.



Thanks alot! This made my day!!
( Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! )

     
  11-Feb-14, 14:08   #27
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raymonvdhaak 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Netherlands
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 257
Posted by grahamy27:
pokerstars is a fuckin joke, guy in following post raised every single hand and won everythging beat pocket kings with 35 beats flopped str8 with runner runner flush! guy hits everything..

if you want to try your luck against him..GL.lol you will need it!


PokerStars Hand #111496501797: Hold'em No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2014/02/08 18:35:15 WET [2014/02/08 13:35:15 ET]
Table 'Sigelinde III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: trapTIP92 ($16 in chips)
Seat 2: vaeri85 ($12.56 in chips)
Seat 3: hansgh ($18.95 in chips)
Seat 4: A2345maybe ($13.04 in chips)
Seat 5: mantisxyle ($16 in chips)
hansgh: posts small blind $0.08
A2345maybe: posts big blind $0.16
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to A2345maybe [Tc Ac]
mantisxyle: folds
trapTIP92: folds
vaeri85: calls $0.16
hansgh: raises $0.16 to $0.32
A2345maybe: calls $0.16
vaeri85: calls $0.16
*** FLOP *** [9s As 2c]
hansgh: bets $0.48
A2345maybe: raises $1.92 to $2.40
vaeri85: folds
hansgh: calls $1.92
*** TURN *** [9s As 2c] Queen of clubs
hansgh: checks
A2345maybe: bets $10.32 and is all-in
hansgh: calls $10.32
*** RIVER *** [9s As 2c Qc] 3 of spades
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hansgh: shows [Ad 3d] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
A2345maybe: shows [Tc Ac] (a pair of Aces)
hansgh collected $25.21 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26.40 | Rake $1.19
Board [9s As 2c Qc 3s]
Seat 1: trapTIP92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vaeri85 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: hansgh (small blind) showed [Ad 3d] and won ($25.21) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 4: A2345maybe (big blind) showed [Tc Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: mantisxyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)


i see that a lot on ft to they go raise raise raise with sh1t and on the turn and river they win ther hand that on on 1 flush card on the flop unbeleavble but thats poker ,thats why i try not play on the cards like aa kk and play more kind of hands now so that i can win with same bs as all others with 37 whahahahahahaha

     
  12-Feb-14, 21:23   #28
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skroeva 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 83
Lol i heard that often but i really dont believe that pokerstars is rigged, just sometimes they have a strange amount of bad luck flooding you Tongue
They dont name is jokerstars for nothing right Big Smile

     
  12-Feb-14, 22:50   #29
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Plexo 
Joined: Aug '09
Location: Chile
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 1346
Sometime is like every villina is hiiting all hands.

I lsot $50 bucks last monday. It was so frustating.
I got flush K high, villian A high.

I got top set vs bottom set, villian hit quand on river.
I'm all in with aces versus 72o (yes 72o) and villian hit two pairs.

I faced also some setups (KK vs AA, etc)
Of couse I went on tilt and thing went worse. Hopefully I closed session before I lost more money
Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  13-Feb-14, 10:37   #30
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Theapple 

Joined: Sep '13
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1564
just played some zoom, got KK 4 times, lost all 4, was rivered 3 out of those 4 times. The other guy called my 4bet with 107o and hit trip 7's on the river. The other time guy hit a runner runner 45 Club flush (?) and wouldnt let it go no matter how big i bet, lol

to spice things up, lost 5th BI in a row with AA vs QJ preflop Big Smile

now managed to climb up got 4 BI back, somehow even won KK vs QQ preflop shove (!!) and decided to call it a day and take a break from poker for a few days. No really i can take a bad beat, but when you get rivered out 3 times in a row, lose KK vs donkhands 4 times in a row and all that happens under 10 mins while just 2 tabbling, it really gets to you Big Smile Angry

edit:
just got kicked out of school league thing on stars too, with KK ofc, my newest most hated hand lol. But not like it could beat these

PokerStars Hand #111747686451: Tournament #858004216, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level II (30/60) - 2014/02/13 11:08:28 CET [2014/02/13 5:08:28 ET]
Table '858004216 968' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Gari0909 (2860 in chips)
Seat 2: dembomufc (2200 in chips)
Seat 3: cattalin1979 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: evgeniy lis (940 in chips)
Seat 5: s_kosty (1820 in chips)
Seat 6: Livcsi761019 (1360 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Turtlesaur (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: hariit (2620 in chips)
Seat 9: serega19russ (1500 in chips) is sitting out
hariit: posts small blind 30
serega19russ: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Turtlesaur [Ks Kc]
Gari0909: folds
dembomufc: folds
cattalin1979: folds
evgeniy lis: calls 60
s_kosty: calls 60
Livcsi761019: folds
Turtlesaur: raises 180 to 240
hariit: folds
serega19russ: folds
evgeniy lis: calls 180
s_kosty: calls 180
*** FLOP *** [9s 7s Jh]
evgeniy lis: checks
s_kosty: checks
Turtlesaur: bets 120
evgeniy lis: calls 120
s_kosty: calls 120
*** TURN *** [9s 7s Jh] 4 of clubs
evgeniy lis: checks
s_kosty: checks
Turtlesaur: bets 180
evgeniy lis: raises 240 to 420
s_kosty: raises 1040 to 1460 and is all-in
Turtlesaur: calls 880 and is all-in
evgeniy lis: calls 160 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (400) returned to s_kosty
*** RIVER *** [9s 7s Jh 4c] 6 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
s_kosty: shows [4h 9h] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
Turtlesaur: shows [Ks Kc] (a pair of Kings)
s_kosty collected 960 from side pot
evgeniy lis: shows [Jd 7h] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
evgeniy lis collected 2910 from main pot
Turtlesaur finished the tournament in 6877th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3870 Main pot 2910. Side pot 960. | Rake 0
Board [9s 7s Jh 4c 6c]
Seat 1: Gari0909 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: dembomufc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: cattalin1979 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: evgeniy lis showed [Jd 7h] and won (2910) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 5: s_kosty showed [4h 9h] and won (960) with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 6: Livcsi761019 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Turtlesaur (button) showed [Ks Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: hariit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: serega19russ (big blind) folded before Flop

oh well, one of them plays by the famous rule 'any 2 suited' and the other one... well , not like its that easy to give up on J7o preflop.

Big Smile

     
  19-Feb-14, 23:22   #31
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mreid123 
Joined: Oct '10
Location: Canada
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 204
everyday I play freerolls and that's all that happens to me its like a bingo site ahaha.. Its so unpriditable u fold the best hand a lot and when u call u hit nothing with marginal hands they river me and u too badd beatss..

     
  20-Feb-14, 21:03   #32
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grahamy27 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 707
i have been fixing all my leaks, but my online play is not that bad just i get a lot of bad beats, i took a break from online and focused more on live play, i prefer that anyways as i can actually see my opponents.lol. (actually makes a difference imo)

i dont believe that sites are rigged, i just get fed up with bad beats..i'm sure everyone hates them Big Smile

     
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