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G'day mate
Just want to wish you well again mate. Truly hope things are going well for you. I just took a hit to my bankroll but i am still going strong. Hope you make it all the way. best wishes be cool
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Jovi, one can always think that, playing well, the more you play the better it will be for your wallet, but if you admit that you have difficulties in maintain your type of game when going for 6 tables or even more, i guess the best you have to do is one of the next advices i have for you: - decrease the amount you play and go for more tables: this way you will be adapting your strategy to the fact of having less time to take even more decisions without making your bankroll suffer too much with that change; Or - you keep playing the max of 6 tables on $15, but this way you'll fast get to the recognition of a need to upgrade without knowing how to. I guess the first one is the most adequate. Although you have to decrease the amount you play, that will look like one step back, but it will be a matter of time until you feel confident enough to return to the $15 mark. I'm not even close to your level, but i work a lot with strategy and i think you can, at least, read and think about my advice, even if you decide not to take it in the end. Good luck no matter what, feel confident and you know you'll get Platinum!
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Update time: Played yesterday only 34 15$ games. Played late night so not so much action, slow registering... On the end wanted to play more but couldnt, was too sleepy and tired. So, 226VPPs earned.
Had solid profit of 200$. Still had lot of bad beats which is expected in these late night hours when only drunk-on drugs-Canadians-degens like me play.
In 1st one there is missed value but I still think its not too bad because If he had K he would def got it in and I thought there is great possibility he have draw on that board with 5 6 where only way to get paid on river was to check and let him bluff. Unfortunatly he had one of couple of hands that will always check behind and just sometimes call a shove but overall I think check is not bad against his range.
In 2nd I thought he wouldnt min raise with solid hand on turn so decided to make 3bet stab with fdraw. He called and K was card I didnt like at all since I thought K could play that way along with draws. But decided to shove anyways and guy actually showed me A
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yea poor thing, you only played 34 15$ games.
today i played 3 x 10c sngs on ps. now beat that
just watched that quad 5's hand, check fail? wasnt he commited enough so you could try a smaller value bet, maybe he would even shove at that point? I doubt he would fold on smallish bet, but yea i just checked straight flush a couple of days ago and the other guy (who was super aggro) checked back, lol
Wow, I have checked your account and you are doing really good, good ROI in SNG´s, barely any big downswings and the massive win in the BIG 11$, keep up the great work!
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Hey Jovi,
That's a nice days profit. Thanks for sharing those hands with us. Can you walk us through your thoughts as you played that hand? Excellent take down, just wondering on your process of putting him on a hand, feel like I can learn something from here.
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Posted by Mober: I like the fact you are saying : played yesterday only 34 games of 15$ That is a buy in that most of us here dont do like in months period
It is solid session but too low count for my platinum quest.
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Posted by Arithmajik: Hey Jovi,
That's a nice days profit. Thanks for sharing those hands with us. Can you walk us through your thoughts as you played that hand? Excellent take down, just wondering on your process of putting him on a hand, feel like I can learn something from here.
Well I kind of already did at end of post. In 1st hand after he called 3 bet I put him on K, flush draw and str8 draw (turns out I was wrong and thats the reason why I checked river instead of betting), on turn I tried to bet amount that will give me normal looking less then pot size shove on river and on river K spoils plan (I wrote rest on OP) In 2nd he limped so his range was some middle hands. Stuff like weak aces, QT, KT, QJ... I had J in suit so decided to make 1 blind call and see If I could hit or maybe take it from him if I dont. He made really small turn bet so obviously he doesnt have too strong hand. Rest written in OP.
Edited by jovicakralj (13 February 2014 @ 04:02 GMT)
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Well, my friend came to me yesterday and stayed quite long and after he left I fell a sleep and woke up early this morning. Played 12 games. Was like 4 am so no action and it took me to like 7:30 to play those. Was down 45$ and still sleepy so decided to go back in bad. Maybe will play couple more tonight but Im really starting to think its kind of impossible to get that 5th star at end of this month. But even if I dont make it it is still important to get close (if I want some chance to get to SN at end of the year) and as preparation for next month.
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G'day mate
Well I know how it is about friends dropping by and messing up your poker playing schedule. I do hope that you are able to achieve your goal. If not then it will not be the end of the world. There is always next month right. Wishing you all the best be cool
Posted by jovicakralj: Update time: Played yesterday only 34 15$ games. Played late night so not so much action, slow registering... On the end wanted to play more but couldnt, was too sleepy and tired. So, 226VPPs earned.
Had solid profit of 200$. Still had lot of bad beats which is expected in these late night hours when only drunk-on drugs-Canadians-degens like me play.
In 1st one there is missed value but I still think its not too bad because If he had K he would def got it in and I thought there is great possibility he have draw on that board with 5 6 where only way to get paid on river was to check and let him bluff. Unfortunatly he had one of couple of hands that will always check behind and just sometimes call a shove but overall I think check is not bad against his range.
In 2nd I thought he wouldnt min raise with solid hand on turn so decided to make 3bet stab with fdraw. He called and K was card I didnt like at all since I thought K could play that way along with draws. But decided to shove anyways and guy actually showed me A
On the first hand I absolutely detest your check on the river with quad 5s. I know what you were trying to do, but its false economy. I would simply put a small bet it to try get a call. The end result will be the same even if he folds.
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Yeah checking with the quad 5's makes no sense there IMO, especially with the way you played it. You mention "if he had a K he would def. get it in", well he would call a shove or shove on a small bet from you most of the time as well. As for a draw connected to the 56 that you mentioned, those hands (like 78 etc.) wouldn't have raised preflop. Overall the only merit from checking here is if he has a Q high flushdraw or lower, then you can hope for a bluff. vs. the rest of his range, a small value bet is always the more profitable play. I know how hard it is to look at that ingame, and I myself have huge problems with that myself too, but you should always be realistic when analyzing a hand afterwards, and here the truth is only vs. a very small part of his range this play is probably more +EV than betting.
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Cheers just saw this thread and I see you are going for platinum, good luck mate, it is a grind and if you are not use to play 1k games per month then you can quickly burn out.
I don't like to play SNGs, because it feels like a grind and I just play them occasionally and it takes a lot of games to get a reflection of your skills.
Anyway cheers, looks that you are on the right track, good luck will follow you and see how you does!
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Posted by BeMyATMplz: Yeah checking with the quad 5's makes no sense there IMO, especially with the way you played it. You mention "if he had a K he would def. get it in", well he would call a shove or shove on a small bet from you most of the time as well. As for a draw connected to the 56 that you mentioned, those hands (like 78 etc.) wouldn't have raised preflop. Overall the only merit from checking here is if he has a Q high flushdraw or lower, then you can hope for a bluff. vs. the rest of his range, a small value bet is always the more profitable play. I know how hard it is to look at that ingame, and I myself have huge problems with that myself too, but you should always be realistic when analyzing a hand afterwards, and here the truth is only vs. a very small part of his range this play is probably more +EV than betting.
I know that he would call, thats for sure. I just sad that if he have K we are getting it in no matter what. So if you rule out K from decision making we are left with him having ether PP or draw. PP will bunch of times fold to a bet anyways. And if you look how many PP are out there and how many draws I think draws are bigger chunk of his range. Guy played aggro so I decided to check and let him shove with some kind of missed draw. I dont like betting less then all in there. I have less then pot size bet and from previous experience you will lose lot of value from fish that way and regs will be more suspicious since there is no sense to bluff that small and leave so little behind if you dont have it. Dont get me wrong, I myself will bet there like 9/10 times but this time with this board I decided its better to check. Anyway, in long run I believe its close to break even decision.
I posted some more hands later so feel free to discuss them too when you find time. Cheers
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Posted by jovicakralj: I posted some more hands later so feel free to discuss them too when you find time. Cheers
I have seen them but I'm not confident enough with non turbos and postflop itself (I'm usually a "bingo" only player ) so I only comment on hands that I see that should be possibly played differently, when I'm unsure I usually tell myself to better not comment
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by jovicakralj: I posted some more hands later so feel free to discuss them too when you find time. Cheers
I have seen them but I'm not confident enough with non turbos and postflop itself (I'm usually a "bingo" only player ) so I only comment on hands that I see that should be possibly played differently, when I'm unsure I usually tell myself to better not comment
Doesnt matter This is not 2+2 or some other "serious" forum where you "have to be right" and explain everything scientifically Thats why I like posting here.
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wasnt he commited enough so you could try a smaller value bet, maybe he would even shove at that point? I doubt he would fold on smallish bet, but yea i just checked straight flush a couple of days ago and the other guy (who was super aggro) checked back, lol
