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I'm really concerned about having two pairs! i know, i know it sounds i'm paranoid but every ad i underline every time i flop two pairs i lose. i don't even know if this post is of complaining of a simple way to expire my rage, but i promise i will fold my two pairs everytime i flop them!
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2pair is nice but never the nuts. Espacially bottom 2pair are easily overvalued. Neither a hand to try to slowplay with, nor a hand to call an all-in to lightly.
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agree with above.hit 2 pair go hard or your in trouble.better with a rainbow flop.if two colour you are normally in big trouble.mabie lose to trips.if pre raise you in a world of hurt.
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Well, the fact is i usually play limit hold'em so i can bet or check raise but it's always a small ammount of money. plus if you consider that i play low stakes where people is crazy and calls with everything .....
------------ I forgotten to say thaat i agree with you all when you say that 2 pairs has to be played hard to avoid bad beats on the river. Tnx guys
I don't know why every time I flop the nuts without a pair on board, my opponents which flop 2 pairs always hit their boat so I don't understand why 2 pairs is not good for you
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Ya, I usually like to bet big, like pot size or check raise all in to an aggressive player. I know that if you have 2 pair and opponent has an over pair than you're only like 75% chance to win on flop.
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I think its probably best to bet right out when you have 2pair, or just bet right out when you think you're ahead in fixed limit. Check raising, I think is not so good unless you're pretty sure they will bet.
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two pair is a bad hand for limit hold em ,in no limit hold em it is a winning hand for me because i wont let people get to the turn and draw out on me ,in limit hold em you cant do a blocking bet or something especially in low limits people will cold call every bullcrap and take down huge pots with a flopped gutshot from time to time
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Thank you guys for your support, i can feel i'm not the only one having trouble with two pairs let's don't talk about 2 pairs at omaha ...... the worst hand you could bet with
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Posted by Poeinkie: I always make two pairs when I already folded so actually i don't make them
You don't know yet how lucky you are mate!!! LOL Well, actually i got my first 2 winnings two pairs at hold'em heads up!!! the first one with 72 !! and the second one when we were already all in.... i had the lowest pair (4) he had nines and on the river i got the 8!! it sounds bad i plaied with 48 but the situation requested it
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Yesterday i played a tournament, i got an J & 10 in the hand, i called and in the first flop a J & 10.... I was hapy woooooot. I placed a bet and 2 people called. Then I checked so i could overbet somebody else and so i did, one guy folds. Last card i bet and the other guy bets, i raise because i thought i had monster cards He had 2 spades & 3 were on the table
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Posted by Poeinkie: Yesterday i played a tournament, i got an J & 10 in the hand, i called and in the first flop a J & 10.... I was hapy woooooot. I placed a bet and 2 people called. Then I checked so i could overbet somebody else and so i did, one guy folds. Last card i bet and the other guy bets, i raise because i thought i had monster cards He had 2 spades & 3 were on the table
the best option for you there was checking and calling his bet,or jjust folding.its hard to lay down two pair,but sometimes its best to.he was drawing to the strongest hand,which he hit and rolled you.
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Yeah you're right Scl1975, it's all part of the learning process I think, don't be to happy with what YOU have but also keep looking what higher options are possible with the showing cards ah well next time better
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I've started winning with two pairs 2 days ago! I only got a bad beat out of six I flopped two pairs of fours and sixex and bet, he raised, i re raised, he went all in i called and he had trip of fours!!
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Posted by GamblinDemon: I'm really concerned about having two pairs! i know, i know it sounds i'm paranoid but every ad i underline every time i flop two pairs i lose. i don't even know if this post is of complaining of a simple way to expire my rage, but i promise i will fold my two pairs everytime i flop them!
I have similar situation but when I flop a flush I am holding for example QJs flo K27s , I flop the flush and I bet someone raises I call and he shows: a) 2 pairs - turn or river gives him full house b) flush with Ace- he got for example only Ace of spades with 5 of diamonds, 3 spades at the flop and he goes all in. He always gets 4 th spade on turn;/
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Well, this situation is quite unlucky to happen at a texas hold'em table, but i can fell you because i also play Omaha H/l where what you mentioned happens all the times
agree with above.hit 2 pair go hard or your in trouble.better with a rainbow flop.if two colour you are normally in big trouble.mabie lose to trips.if pre raise you in a world of hurt.
I am holding for example QJs flo K27s , I flop the flush and I bet someone raises I call and he shows:
