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Hello all the wonderful mobsters out there, this is your friend haze from the beautiful city of the citys cologne, somewhere near the huge cathedral writing to you, wish a good day to each and everyone!
it will take some time and patience to know how to play your favorite mtt`s.. maybe you should play a nother format (6max mtt/smaller player field/freezout...) and you must have in mind that even the best players with a high game value only geting 5-7 % deep in there mtt`s
good luck for your next games
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I know that but I am talking about when I having one of those tourneys where I am playing the best I have and everything going right and amazingly well for 2/3 hours then when you come to taking a few all ins I always lose about 90% of them even though I have playing well, have bigger stacks then those people as well and in the top leader board for those hours, but the tournament just turns into a luck roller coaster past the bubble. Like that KQ against a short stacks K7, 99% of the time I will always win that but when I am running deep with a lot of chips someone magically sucks out when I can push on with my chip stack to reach that last 9,
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Its just hippie motherf*cking voice in your head, dont listen to him. Dont be results oriented. Look at me, I played today one MTT got eliminated with KK vs KJ, guy flopped straight. You think I care? Well ofcourse I care, that motherf*cker flopped f*cking straight... But seriously, I know I played that hand good, got all chips in preflop, guy had like 9% chance to win it that means I will beat those donks 10 out of 11 times in this spot Play every hand best possible way, dont stop learning from your mistakes and sooner or later you will not only get on FT, but you will take it down
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Posted by Weenie: Its just hippie motherf*cking voice in your head, dont listen to him. Dont be results oriented. Look at me, I played today one MTT got eliminated with KK vs KJ, guy flopped straight. You think I care? Well ofcourse I care, that motherf*cker flopped f*cking straight... But seriously, I know I played that hand good, got all chips in preflop, guy had like 9% chance to win it that means I will beat those donks 10 out of 11 times in this spot Play every hand best possible way, dont stop learning from your mistakes and sooner or later you will not only get on FT, but you will take it down
yes but it also means ull beat them 1000 out of 1100 times, and depending on your luck, those 100 times you dont beat them can happen at any time for all you know you might lose 70 out of 100 times with 80-20% fav but i guess thats the beauty of poker. sort of. or is it
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Nah it is still bollocks. Big stacks will always suck out or hit some miracle cards to f**k you over.
Just spent two hours in a 100 man freeroll and just made the last 12 money stage 3 places from the FT. Get JJ on the bb. One guy limps before me so 3 bet with half my chips because I know I have him beat and if I push he will call and suck out on me as usual. Of course he calls because thats what fish chip leaders do. With Q7s which is fair with his stack but of course he flops Q7 and I am out as he checks and all I can do is push my remaining chips in.
This is what always happens and of course I have played well all freeroll with the limited cards I had as super card dead and flop dead apart from AA and some okay flops was in the top 7 until the last 13 people and of course I get f**ked over again.
Can make the money easy but further nah. I'm just fed up of this always happening when your lower stacked than other people and they always luck out some way or another.
Also in another bigger and better one right now and I am doing well in that also with only 160 people until the money, we shall see if I crash because of me, or the standard card dead then someone lucking out against you.
Posted by Phisix: Nah it is still bollocks. Big stacks will always suck out or hit some miracle cards to f**k you over.
Just spent two hours in a 100 man freeroll and just made the last 12 money stage 3 places from the FT. Get JJ on the bb. One guy limps before me so 3 bet with half my chips because I know I have him beat and if I push he will call and suck out on me as usual. Of course he calls because thats what fish chip leaders do. With Q7s which is fair with his stack but of course he flops Q7 and I am out as he checks and all I can do is push my remaining chips in.
I'm not sure, because you don't mention the exact stack and blind sizes, but you seem to describe a leak that is very common in the later stages of MTTs.
If you 3 bet for half of your stack, against a big stack, you are inviting trouble. He can just have a look to see if the flop helps him. At the same time he'll know he'll get the rest of your stack, if he does, because you are pot committed. You must either push or fold here. Use the fold equity you have, instead of allowing the big stack to see the flop cheaply.
If you do this religiously, you'll reach final tables regularly.
The rule is to restrict yourself to pushing or folding if M drops below 7. Where M is your stack divided by the cost of one round (i.e. BB + SM + ante*amount of players at the table). If you don't want to do too much math, just look at the amount of chips in the pot before anyone bets or calls. If you have less than 7 times this amount, its push or fold, until you have more than 7 times this amount.
You shouldn't give up, i thought the same thing when i started playing but it is just a phase that will pass. I see you play lots of freerolls, when you start playing for real money (doesn't have to be much, there are a lot of 1$ tournaments with great prize pools) the other players take it more seriously and your skill means more then plain luck.
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Posted by marqis:
Posted by Phisix: Nah it is still bollocks. Big stacks will always suck out or hit some miracle cards to f**k you over.
Just spent two hours in a 100 man freeroll and just made the last 12 money stage 3 places from the FT. Get JJ on the bb. One guy limps before me so 3 bet with half my chips because I know I have him beat and if I push he will call and suck out on me as usual. Of course he calls because thats what fish chip leaders do. With Q7s which is fair with his stack but of course he flops Q7 and I am out as he checks and all I can do is push my remaining chips in.
I'm not sure, because you don't mention the exact stack and blind sizes, but you seem to describe a leak that is very common in the later stages of MTTs.
If you 3 bet for half of your stack, against a big stack, you are inviting trouble. He can just have a look to see if the flop helps him. At the same time he'll know he'll get the rest of your stack, if he does, because you are pot committed. You must either push or fold here. Use the fold equity you have, instead of allowing the big stack to see the flop cheaply.
If you do this religiously, you'll reach final tables regularly.
The rule is to restrict yourself to pushing or folding if M drops below 7. Where M is your stack divided by the cost of one round (i.e. BB + SM + ante*amount of players at the table). If you don't want to do too much math, just look at the amount of chips in the pot before anyone bets or calls. If you have less than 7 times this amount, its push or fold, until you have more than 7 times this amount.
Hope this helps...
I was thinking of pushing, but I don't have a great track record with JJ. I guess i'll just push next time. Just funny how the big stack always hits something. Not rigged but very annoying.
Just reached the money on another freeroll. 58th/152 people. So guaranteed but see if I can push on this time. Any advice anyway to give me a edge hopefully?
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Posted by skroeva: You shouldn't give up, i thought the same thing when i started playing but it is just a phase that will pass. I see you play lots of freerolls, when you start playing for real money (doesn't have to be much, there are a lot of 1$ tournaments with great prize pools) the other players take it more seriously and your skill means more then plain luck.
You will eventually get there
I play cash more but I have been on a break since being on the worst run and luck of my life since last year. Got some free cash to play with again so we shall see.
Scrap that I am out already. AQ in postion and limpers before so 3 bet loads to take the limps. Higher stack(Yes chip leader go figures) pushes all in so I call my remaining 28k. Flips over AA.
Of course as usual. See what I mean. Set up city. Seen so many QQ, KK and AA's in the last hour. Standard.
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Thats why they have big stacks. Cause they hit almost anything that they chase. Thats of course what happens when we get big stacks also. The thing is how long you can keep the chips to your side, casue most of the time, i am very generous and splitting them around before final tables
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Late registration is more than a bingo play, depending on what stage are you going in, but if it is a rebuy one, then it helps a lot. I have seen some players using this strategy successfully over the past and while they dont manage to reach final table all the times, they are still making a good profit.
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Usually the freerolls Ill go in last minute, I also look at blind levels as long as I have about 12-15 bbs for late registration it usually can give me a good chance. I play so much better in MTT's than any other form of poker. My limited bankroll though stops me from playing more
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I tell you that I was the same, always lost when I was freerolls with good amount of chips. The problem was that my chips manba allin pre flop. But the right thing is to play cards and get connected chips rivals; need not go allin emjor what is playing slowly and then push them towards flop. use my advice and tell me how it went.
Here, watch this hand - 100 players to go from 9000 in MM 5.50 event i im among chipleaders when this happens:
http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/7996338_56A3... - and i m out. - this happened cca 10 times last month in MTTs near the final table, went out first from FT in 2.20 event KK vs JJ - JJ got straight etc... it happens but it happens to you as well - suckouts.
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What kind of buy ins are you playing in?
I've made 2 freeroll final tables, but through playing awful poker and bluffing everything. I've made 1 cash in a $1 buy in, but 4 cashes 2 of which were final tables in $6.60 buy ins.
The cheaper the buy in, the more suck outs you'll likely to see. As the risk is certainly very minimal.
Play every hand best possible way, dont stop learning from your mistakes and sooner or later you will not only get on FT, but you will take it down 
for all you know you might lose 70 out of 100 times with 80-20% fav but i guess thats the beauty of 
