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Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
Are you sure that you got on these final tables with only "some luck" ? I would say you have too much luck and i believe we all know why. How man times have you won your lotto all ins or calls to reach the final tables
Posted by Mober: Are you sure that you got on these final tables with only "some luck" ? I would say you have too much luck and i believe we all know why. How man times have you won your lotto all ins or calls to reach the final tables
I'm not complaining my AA and KK keeps on holding up against the all in parasites from face book when i'm all in pre flop i have a hand and when i lose i have the best hand pre flop i never shove with garbage happened too me today A K lose too bingo J 3 off it's this type of bingo that prevents me from progressing farther up in the Leader board
Same s**t different day 56 player's left got decent stack get AA raise 4 times the big blind someone re shoves all in i call AA vs KQ and 2 queens on the flop
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 2219
I saw so many unbelievable suckouts in the last years in online poker and must say: yes, online poker was rigges. But this game gives a lot of fun and only one good run in a tourney give us the Chance to get back our money And so, we try it again and again...
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 69
LOL! I love the sites and players who say this happens in real life 'all the time'. It does not! the reason a 'runner runner can be calculated is because of ODDS! If something has a 1% chance, then in real live dealing, it will happen about 1 time in a 100, not about 50% of the time. The odds of PS and FT, and any (most) sites who use their hand selection (that's right, hand selection, as they deal pre-set hands, not random cards) are WAY out of sync with real life. IE in real life, if 2 A's are shown, the odds of a river A are about 4 in a hundred, if this happens more than that on a regular basis, the odds are, the site is not honest, and their big regular winners are 'likely' using predictive software, which can only work with sites that deal their pre arranged hands. PS these hands tend to be the top 10% 'most exciting!
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 2688
This is just speculation and if you do not have proof then it is not what it looks like, you could argue that we do not have proof that poker software is legit and it would be a good argument. But if you do not trust the poker softwares the best things for you to do is to stop playing poker and stop this conspiracy theory and use your money for other things rather than poker. You can go for sports bets, where you will be rewarded for your skill?
Joined: May '08
Location: Canada
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1017
if it bothers you that much,just stop playing were you are playing,or stop playing altogether,its a freeroll nobody but maybe you cares how it is played,in live cards games same stuff happens,you just dont see it too much cause you don't play so many hands in a live game,in a tourney on line ask you re self how many hands have you seen,or played? then ask you self,if it were a live game what would you say,would you say that the dealer is cheating or your friends are? its the nature of the game and how you play it,and every one playes differently.
good luck keep it up my game has improved a lot lately just by becoming more patient and disciplined, on the subject but i do believe that the pre selected hand generator is setup to catch players out who get involved in certain hands and maybe bet wrong thus thus turn and river runners that hurt. it happens to me as well and it hurts when u threw all the chips in when u could have played the hand safer and thought about all the variables.
Joined: Apr '13
Location: Serbia
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1
same question i asked myself over the past year, and how much i would like to believe in variance,chance,luck or what ever reason... it cant explain why so much bad beats... i couldnt help my self so i wrote email and honestly asked ftp support why do they tend to kill mid br grinding players. ofc i couldnt get an honest answer cause bloke who answered my questions must do his job and keep explaining me cliches about 1.number of hands we play online compared to live and fact how do we more likely remember moments when we are in winning streak ( i cant remember i won 20 showdowns all with all in and with crap cards 2. variance 3. RNG and so on... story would be too long for typing and reading but all in all it couldnt be explained cause he cant simply tell: dude your there to entertain players who tend to win every hand in every situation with A 6 or J 3, no matter is it freeroll or sng, their software need crowd to be excited ... dont bother following rules cause we need sometime to redirect some of your money onto donks accounts so when they lose it they maybe put some more with their credit cards...so just forget about rules for period of time when they doomswitch or what ever is name of that kind of crap they put on your acc.
rules not working for that time period ie. be selective with my preflop cards, tend not to all in if can outplay it with less aggression , positioning, do not messing with my br and beyond that... stupid chip leader rule which makes online poker to look like video game.
after 6 continuous days of getting bad beats and in so obvious way that i could for 90% know that im screwed up at the very start of the sng or tournament... so i couldnt take that long period of time where i kept loosing on bizarre ways so...
i just closed ftp acc and put ps on rest for next 6 months, will think about getting back to ps . theyr not only ones on the net where i can play quality poker, i tried few more in the past and found few more and they keep promising (less rake greedy, if you know what i mean).