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Just ran $5 into $100 on pp so go to $50/1 to hopefully get a double up and cash out (pro brm), so i have K9s on the button, this spastic spewtard limps (for like the 20th pot in a row) i make it $4 and he calls i flop a flush draw and back door straight draw on AJ4 i continue for $6 he calls the turn is a 10 so i pick up my straight draw, bet $12 he calls so around $40 in the pot at this time i have like $30 behind he tanks on 2nd call so i assume hes pretty weak, plan to jam most rivers, river blank, bricked everything as per usual, shove river and he snaps it off with A7.

How you call 2 barrels AND then the river shove with A7 is beyond me such bad fucking play yet he's rewarded with the money i just spent hours getting. fish.

The part that annoys me the most is that i give it 15 minutes tops before he donates my money back to some other spastic at the table.

     
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Ace rag with a pair of Aces he read your bluff and called you simple as that you didn't post what the turn and river cards where sometimes a bluff there works on the river but probably not against a player who never folds and always limps into the pot i had my Aces pre flop all in on fast forward poker cracked by an Ace rag low card flush on Party Pooper i was expecting KK or JJ so yes s**t happens doesn't matter what the site you can't beat variance

     
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nothing to do with variance its just trash play, A7 is a standard fold in that spot, i know im folding there 9/10 times A10 probably not, AJ definitely not but A7 would definitely be in the muck.

Also i did post the turn and river the turn was a 10 and im pretty sure the river was a 4

     
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Calling station is calling station. Thinks an Ace is always a winner. Standard.

Also, you had a what 6%/7% chance to hit your straight on the river, I would have just check-folded the turn even if you thought he had rubbish to keep most of your BI and have another crack with another hand. Most limp callers usually have Ace-rag anyway, unless you thought he was chasing a straight too?

     
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i had a combo draw i had a flush draw and straight draw so wasnt only chasing my gutshot, i just figured he was weak limp calling and then tanking both times before calling. no idea how he called off an entire BI.

     
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Oh I didnt read about the flush draw as well, fair enough. I still would have check-folded the river though as he was bound to have something, even minor. That's why I don't really bluff against stations anymore as they will call with anything. I have been on the bad end of those before.

     
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You had the nut flush draw if it hit's on the turn or river then you probably get paid off by calling stations Ace rag in that spot for me is a fold Ace rag suited a call he beat your bluff top pair with a weak kicker you bluff with air get called simple as that

     
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Wow looks like you playing a high limit with those denominations you are just over the micros and one more jump and you in the small stakes field, but the Nl 50 is still hard and they become very aggressive as most regulars will now choose a spot to be aggressive to make you fold or give you a hard time, if they spot a weakness they will keep pushing. so Good luck mate , adjust your game and hope that the other guys keeps picking you up on that spot where you just improved.

     
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Posted by Benjicleo

The part that annoys me the most is that i give it 15 minutes tops before he donates my money back to some other spastic at the table.


It ceases to be your money as soon as it goes in the pot.

#justsaying
Blink

     
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Posted by IceQueenAce:
Posted by Benjicleo

The part that annoys me the most is that i give it 15 minutes tops before he donates my money back to some other spastic at the table.


It ceases to be your money as soon as it goes in the pot.

#justsaying
Blink




Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
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Posted by Benjicleo:
How you call 2 barrels AND then the river shove with A7 is beyond me such bad fucking play yet he's rewarded with the money i just spent hours getting. fish.


It took you just ''hours'' to turn 5$ into 100$?? You are one lucky man
Worship

Indeed, it is a fishy call, but, to be honest - a good player would see that coming.
If he check-called you all the way it can mean only 2 things - either he is on a draw (less likely beacuse you are the one drawing), or he hit something(A or J) and he won't let it go (pretty much the thing you can expect from limp-callers)
So the river is obv check, becuse you can't expect from that kind of players to fold his toppair/nokicker. I mean - number 1 rule of poker - you don't bluff a fish. Ever.
Just give up and check it down.

     
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I believe the best part in your first post was the : pro brm Smile
Since you had in mind to cash out, there was no reason to play such a game.
good thing you didnt put all your money in.
You cant imagine how many are willing to call with any A till river no matter what.
Better luck on your next games.

     
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In my book K9 s or not is not a raising hand you see plenty of peoples calling with A rag this is not new
you decided to take a risk with the flush draw even if there was an over card on the board and you lost you also should know that the flush is not a 100% probabilities.you tied it and lost too bad for you. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
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I really dont think that the calls are that bad. If he decides to play ace rag before the flop and then an ace comes there is no way that he can fold otherwise he should have folded pre flop. I think his line was correct

     
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I think the hand itself has been pretty good discussed in the post above so i do not think you need further input on that...

I guess that now you wanted to cashout what you had and drop this plan of double up so fast, it was a risk at the end of the day.

     
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Calling stations are just that - as the name suggests they will call everything and anything - also, some players have very little respect for $40 or so and are willing to pay to see what you got. The way that U make money playing against calling stations is by betting made hands and not by bluffing busted draws. Another problem with your play is that even on the button K9s is a marginal hand at best (you play loose poker). Look at it this way: calling station with A7 calls your bluff with what he thinks is a made hand because he flopped and A (and maybe he observed your play and figured out that you like to bluff from the button, huh?) - poker play has progressed recently to a point that some pros advocate calling in such situations if there is a slightest chance for +EV. So lets get to the river: the board shows AJ4T4 (right?) - lots of hands can beat A7, but as a corollary, A7 wins a bit in this spot too: so this guy tanked for a while and then called your bluff - if he put you on a draw (lets say 50/50 chance) and his pot odds are good then the right play is a call every single time (not such a fish play anymore, huh? - although he did limp for 20 pots you said so Big Smile ). Oh and BTW - was he pot committed by your final shove? If by the river he is calling for only few more $ vs the size of the pot then why fold any hand in this spot?

One more point: $5 to $100 in a few hrs is playing the lotto not playing poker - you got very very lucky. (Few times the BB/hr on average is the most that U can expect per table and that is being almost clairvoyant - that is why tight aggressive play multi-tabling is how some ppl make money in this racket Smile ) So, to get from $5 to $100 as U said, U probably pulled a stunt like the K9s bluff play many times over and bullied winning players out of many pots. This time though U got caught. That is the gist of it - in my humble opinion that is ... Aww crap! TTG Thumbs Down Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

     
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