"Well I do not agree with the gentlemen above ....
As you get ITM it mean your play is Ok till then.
once you are there it s just a question of observing your opponents, using this info to steal from tight players and try to catch agrresive players with monster hands.
Also position play is very important
Mostly the players that are bigstacks when the bubble bursts ... do not get into the top 3"
Then I guess you should stop giving out advices like this above...
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Man thats hard but it´s poker always a chance of being crushed About the advices bowie1984 every poker player gives advices theoretically we always know the right way to play,the correct way, the unbeatable way but on live situation everybody makes bad calls If advices were anygood people will not be giving them they will be selling them
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Posted by av1966: Man thats hard but it's poker always a chance of being crushed About the advices bowie1984 every poker player gives advices theoretically we always know the right way to play,the correct way, the unbeatable way but on live situation everybody makes bad calls If advices were anygood people will not be giving them they will be selling them
If this forum is not to give some piece of advice what would be the needs of the forum. If you look good there is a lot of threads that are asking for advice. this is a very good place for that and peoples can do what they want with the advice received.
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Posted by bowie1984: "Well I do not agree with the gentlemen above ....
As you get ITM it mean your play is Ok till then.
once you are there it s just a question of observing your opponents, using this info to steal from tight players and try to catch agrresive players with monster hands.
Also position play is very important
Mostly the players that are bigstacks when the bubble bursts ... do not get into the top 3"
Then I guess you should stop giving out advices like this above...
special for bowie :
I think I did not make mistake in that game, going all in with AA preflop is one of the best optons .... even if i did not went all in preflop he hit a set ith his pocket kings so would have raised me out of the pot (and it s difficult to fold pocet aces vs a nothing saying flop
The only option to be sure to get ITM was folding versus his allin
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This is always a very cruel blow to take but i dont see how you could get out of the hand. You played the hand perfectly acceptably to me and i would definitely be doing the same thing. You just got very unlucky
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PKR have released a new MTT schedule and quite a few of them now offer a sort of bubble-insurance. Basically, many of the tournaments are marked (EB) (Early Bird) and if you register a certain amount of time before the game begins (I think only 15min), then if you finish in any of the three positions before the payouts start, you receive free entry back into the same tournament (in form of a ticket, valid for 3 days).
It's pretty sweet, the tournaments are raked the same as the others, so the tickets really are promotional in that sense; doesn't cost you anything.
And PKR don't get a lot of numbers these days, so often it means the MTT has 12 runners for example, top 3 are paid and the three after that are eligible for their money back! Makes it very profitable to play!
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not much you could do about that hand thefly. your play was correct and thats all that matters, really. especailly in mtts, you should always aim for final table, or top 3 even and there was no way of getting away from that hand.
just think about it this way, one final table/top 3 finish covers for tons of min cashes you 'could have' achieved if you played mtts just to sneak your way to itm people win big money in mtts because they win 1 out of their 100's of tourneys, not because they min-cashed 40/100
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You should not aim to just to be in the money , your aim should be to win the damn thing mate, and i would advice you to play tight at first get some few hands and make notes just in case you go late, and then play aggressively on the one you had notes and exploit their weakness later on! Also play good poker that is learn the push/fold strategy for late game as you will need to push all in several times and let the maths be good in the long term you will win more chips than usual and win in the end! Cheers good luck mate!
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I know your story Have lost a couple of times myself too with aces in bubble. One of them was from a flush with the other one holding A something. That was one of the times i turned off the computer Better luck next time.
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To me,....that's about the WORST place in a tourney to get knocked out... that's why I don't generally play anything there or approaching there if I have sufficient chips to get into the money or prizes...
I WILL play there if I haven't enough to get into the $$$... especially with AA
I SOMETIMES 'might' play there if I am the undisputed BIG stack...
...otherwise,....I'd just leave it be,....lots more chances to come once in the $$$
...and whether a buy in or a freeroll,....I see all wins and losses the same...
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If the money in last paid positions are too low then it worth risking it. Not only with AA but with other pairs too. You may not have such a chance later on the game. But yes if the money is decent and i have the stack i wont risk it either
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The other day i was playing 40 seat frenzie on PP paying the first 8 players we were not to far of that when i received AK so i thought i will take the blinds and antes to confort my position thinking that nobody would call a very big raise so i did but one called me with 8 9 and she it two pairs on the flop that was it for me finishing 14th.
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Sorry for you my friend it´s a hard place to be and as I posted before it´s poker I hope you didn´t take the last sentence of my post in this trread seriously it was a joke Of course the sharing of knowledge and table experience is the main reason to be part of a forum
people win big money in mtts because they win 1 out of their 100's of tourneys, not because they min-cashed 40/100 
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