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ive heard about the short stack strategy, play on ur strongest hands Big Smile

     
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Posted by Poeinkie:
Posted by chipchart:
Poeinkie, are you playing during the "happy hours"? Because if not I defiantley suggest doing that, as making 2x in FTPoints really shows a difference in clearing a bonus that you can see. Just suggesting in case you weren't, than again I don't know what time they would be on in the Netherlands so now I just appear to be rambling on lol.


No i don't I logged in this morning (1,5 hours ago) to look at some games before going to work and I saw the message that it was Happy Hour so i think it is for me in the middle of the night and early morning Blink Maybe something for the weekend Thumbs Up


Happy Hour is for Dutch players from 12:00 - 14:00 and from 21:00 - 23:00.
I like that times, but I'm not sure if the 'double points' count as FTP's used to clear the bonus.

BTW, I play 6-8 tables now, that goes even faster Smile


     
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Yes they count for the bonus Smile

     
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Thanks DVJ !! I don't know if it coincidence but when I play 2 tables ( Yes only 2 DVJ Blink ) at Full Tilt I get a lot of the same hands. For instance on 1 table i get Heart Q and Club 7 and the other table gives me Club Q and Heart 7.... anybody else who noticed it or do i see ghosts Blink

     
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I play like this, usually with 2.5 usd at each table on 05.010. I also usually leave when i hit six sevenish dollars. This because when u multitable many tables.i play nine small tables with overlap at my laptop and u suddenly have 12 dollars at two of them it can get kinda hard to adjust properly at thoose tables for deepstack play.
The prime argument for staying is off course that your winning and the opponents are prolly weak.

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Yeah it happens alot, Had kings tens aces and jacks at the same time at four tables yesterday. Confused funny

     
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Posted by Poeinkie:
Thanks DVJ !! I don't know if it coincidence but when I play 2 tables ( Yes only 2 DVJ Blink ) at Full Tilt I get a lot of the same hands. For instance on 1 table i get Heart Q and Club 7 and the other table gives me Club Q and Heart 7.... anybody else who noticed it or do i see ghosts Blink


I think that you see ghosts. It´s just a possibility. Since they deal millions of hands it is possible that you get that kind of hands at both your tables. As long as it are not Aces against Kings every hand I wouldn´t argue about it.

My bankroll is reduced to $110,-, lost big money yesterday. Many coinflips where I was ahead and my AA were cracked a few times. KK didn´t held up too... In the evening Happy Hour I took some money back, but hopefully it won´t happen again Smile.

Full Tilt Poker is down by the way...
I´ll post a hand chart soon.

     
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Yeah I probably see ghosts Smile but it still happens, only on cash tables though if I play multiple Sit & go or tournaments it doesen't.... well just coincidence I do like it when it happens with moster cards though Blink

     
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I´m in a downswing now. I´m loosing far more than 50% of the coinflips and I get beaten by hands that are so rare. Maybe I don´t play agressive enough or I should raise a bit more pre flop because hands that beat me are looking like rubbish, given the pre flop actions. Maybe I offer too high implied odds... who knows.

Of the 4 times I had Aces in one hour I only won 1 time, the other times I lost my stack.
The next time I lost another 3 times out of 4 with AA against something else. The hardes beat to take was my AA vs AKo, the villian made a flush with his K....

Hope to get back in action since the tournements are going fine, but my BR is down to $84,- now.

I´ll stick to the strategy, it must be profitable again on the long term, right?!

Edited by DVJ-BlueJ (08 August 2008 @ 21:26 GMT)


     
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Posted by DVJ-BlueJ:
I'll stick to the strategy, it must be profitable again on the long term, right?!


I have my doubts. The short stack strategy has a few weak points.

Thinking opponents can avoid your strong hands

You have only one chance to win the hand, you must win the showdown. Short stackers usually don't have the chips to make a move postflop. That hurts AK type of hands.

With this showdown heavy style of play you will pay a lot of rake

     
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by DVJ-BlueJ:
I'll stick to the strategy, it must be profitable again on the long term, right?!


I have my doubts. The short stack strategy has a few weak points.

Thinking opponents can avoid your strong hands

You have only one chance to win the hand, you must win the showdown. Short stackers usually don't have the chips to make a move postflop. That hurts AK type of hands.

With this showdown heavy style of play you will pay a lot of rake


Most of the times I raise 20% stack pre flop. It is possible to fold if you miss, I c-bet to 40 % stack in, if I have nothing and get called I have to fold. I don´t C-bet too much though.

But it´s true, you create lot´s of rake and you´ll receive many bad beads because other players can call you with bad hands that evolve into a winner... so be it.




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Today I´m the (lucky) winner of a 90 player$3.30 KO Tournement on Full Tilt Poker.
After getting kicked out 3 times I won it the 4th and final time that I tried to make the money. The first 3 times I was playing too much poker instead of just blind gambling.
Never fold a pair or a draw seems to be the winning thought out there Confused

The early phase is pure gambling, so I won´t recommend this tournements if you want to make money on the long term, just play it for fun...

The BR is now over $150,- because FT credited my account with $72 dollars after the win. HOAH to the luck that I had, sometimes, just sometimes I have it instead of all the others Blink

Edited by DVJ-BlueJ (10 August 2008 @ 00:46 GMT)


     
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Hey. Yes the SSS (Short Stack Strategy) is very beneficial when building up your bank. If you go to free-poker-bankrolls.com and go to P***********y, they will teach you the exact ways to play each hand using the SSS. Cheers Smile

     
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just keep up the good work and you have a significant bankroll in no time at all,i like your strategy,kind makes scence. Big Smile

     
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Thank you very much.

**UPDATE**

My Bankroll is $112,- at the moment. I didn´t play much, I moved up to 4 tabled 6 max 10NL with a full buy-in. Variance killed my BR there, I know it should be right on the long term, but since I have much more money at VC poker I played most of the time at that site. (20NL, 6 max, 4 to 6 tabled)

I cashed everything from VC out tonight, I´m going to send it to my Full Tillt Poker account as soon as possible. I´m going to play 25NL 6max cash games there and hopefully it will work out fine! Smile


     
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Posted by DVJ-BlueJ:
Posted by Poeinkie:
Posted by chipchart:
Poeinkie, are you playing during the "happy hours"? Because if not I defiantley suggest doing that, as making 2x in FTPoints really shows a difference in clearing a bonus that you can see. Just suggesting in case you weren't, than again I don't know what time they would be on in the Netherlands so now I just appear to be rambling on lol.


No i don't I logged in this morning (1,5 hours ago) to look at some games before going to work and I saw the message that it was Happy Hour so i think it is for me in the middle of the night and early morning Blink Maybe something for the weekend Thumbs Up


Happy Hour is for Dutch players from 12:00 - 14:00 and from 21:00 - 23:00.
I like that times, but I'm not sure if the 'double points' count as FTP's used to clear the bonus.

BTW, I play 6-8 tables now, that goes even faster Smile



It doesn't count as FTP's to clear the bonus.
I play a diffrent shortstack strategy whick might help you.
Buy-in @ 20BB. Rebuy if fall to 15BB or lower. Leave the table if you have around 30BB or more (that way you don't lose all the money you made and the money you invested).
Play at a limit that you have at least 25buy-in's. If you have 30buy-in's to the next limit you move up a limit, if you have 20buy-in's or less at the current limit move down a limit.
Only play premium hands.

I can't go in to details as it is very long, but if you want to know some more jut let me know.

     
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i would like to add that if you play only in the happy hours you can double your tilt points and clear the bonus faster too.

     
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Posted by andosalado:
i would like to add that if you play only in the happy hours you can double your tilt points and clear the bonus faster too.


No you don't they don't count the double points when clearing bonuses.

     
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Posted by Fr3nChi:
Posted by andosalado:
i would like to add that if you play only in the happy hours you can double your tilt points and clear the bonus faster too.


No you don't they don't count the double points when clearing bonuses.


I´m not sure about the double speed. But since the level of play during happy hours is generally lower it´s more rewarding to play!

     
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It's a good way to build it but I think each player has its own strategy with which he/she will succeed. If not by reading threads like this one will certainly help so thanks for taking a time to share Smile Thumbs Up

     
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After doubling up in table with SSS you can change your play to BSS (big stack strategy). It's not easy to change your style, but it sure helps to mix up your game. Your opponents have difficulties of reading your game and thats's what poker is all about. Cool

     
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