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Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 1859
If you make a new false one chances are you will not be welcome on stars for life, meaning even when you turn 18 you can't play there anymore. Also, if you send it from one to the other account stars will find out both are your accounts (on the IP adress alone already). For the conditions you wanna play poker at (parents dont want you to play for money, ypu have to leave in the middle of tourneys, meaning playing them this way you will NEVER be winning player anyways...) I don't really understand your motivation. Even if you become a very good player and basicly print money, what are you gonna do? You can't withdraw the money you grinded in with hard studying and work-ethic (playing). Where is teh rewarding thing in it? Because I couldn't imagine to play poker without the money aspect, if I can't make a penny playing it then it's a waste of time IMO (but maybe that's just me), there is much more fun stuff to spend time on.
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
Posted by BeMyATMplz: If you make a new false one chances are you will not be welcome on stars for life, meaning even when you turn 18 you can't play there anymore. Also, if you send it from one to the other account stars will find out both are your accounts (on the IP adress alone already). For the conditions you wanna play poker at (parents dont want you to play for money, ypu have to leave in the middle of tourneys, meaning playing them this way you will NEVER be winning player anyways...) I don't really understand your motivation. Even if you become a very good player and basicly print money, what are you gonna do? You can't withdraw the money you grinded in with hard studying and work-ethic (playing). Where is teh rewarding thing in it? Because I couldn't imagine to play poker without the money aspect, if I can't make a penny playing it then it's a waste of time IMO (but maybe that's just me), there is much more fun stuff to spend time on.
Well thanks for all the information!
Though I would like to say, that I really still enjoy playing poker just because it feels so great to win real money. Even though I can't withdraw it (yet), practicing your hobby and making money at the same time gives me really enough motivation! I know I once couldn't play a SnG til the end because I really got to leave, and I didn't plan that right. Therefore there's always a time indication which says how long it will take on average. It's very easy bettering that point, no need to worry about that if I just plan right IMO!
That I may not play for real money from my parents is not really right, I may not deposit because they think (and I can really understand that) that it can be wasted money. Withdrawing is something else I think, I don't know exactly how it works with NETeller, moneybookers and stuff like that but I can't cashout if I they have a possibility to find out via my bankaccount. I may withdraw if it's just safe but until now I couldn't because I just haven't made a big enough bankroll.
So I play for winning money now and maybe even more for gaining experience for when I turn 18, and it's rewarding enough for me if I wouldn't be able to make any money now if could make a nice side income later on!
And again I know there is a lot of fun stuff out there, and I completely enjoy that! If you haven't noticed yet I really enjoy a lot of things, like: -I play piano -Training athletics -I'm active at the local church -Composing music, just being busy with music very often -Just hang out with friends
(Again) more time to spend isn't left combining this with a lot of school work...
This all may seem offensive, but it's truly not meant to be! I'm very thankful for all this attention for me and all those comments and effort! I'm very thankful for the Bankrollmob to exist and the fact that I'm still not banned is only making it a more and more friendly community and a great place to be! I'm also very thankful for that I learned a game which really seems to fit me and that I can really enjoy a game with a higher goal than beating a high-score!
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 1859
I'm really happy you have hobbies you spend a lot of time of in real life, but then I don't understand, why not just spend more time on these (more reasonable) things? The problem is, all sources on the web to become a good player are only available to 18+ adults too. The free articles that can be found on the web on random sites should be thrown in a trash can. There are few pokerschools that are really good, and for those registration is required. Plus, we can never know where poker will be roughly 2018. Here in germany for example, if we don't get reasonable regulation by then all online poker will be banned in 2018 in our country. One can never know how tough games will be by then either, seeing how much winrates shrunk over the last 2 years already, I think one will be happy to earn a ROI at lowstakes that at midstakes is the norm nowdays.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to crush your motivation, but there really is no point in all this (not that it will matter to you anyways, it wouldn't to me either).
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
Posted by BeMyATMplz: I'm really happy you have hobbies you spend a lot of time of in real life, but then I don't understand, why not just spend more time on these (more reasonable) things? The problem is, all sources on the web to become a good player are only available to 18+ adults too. The free articles that can be found on the web on random sites should be thrown in a trash can. There are few pokerschools that are really good, and for those registration is required. Plus, we can never know where poker will be roughly 2018. Here in germany for example, if we don't get reasonable regulation by then all online poker will be banned in 2018 in our country. One can never know how tough games will be by then either, seeing how much winrates shrunk over the last 2 years already, I think one will be happy to earn a ROI at lowstakes that at midstakes is the norm nowdays.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to crush your motivation, but there really is no point in all this (not that it will matter to you anyways, it wouldn't to me either).
It seems like you keep always have a lesson to be learned to me, and I always think something like: "What whould he say to this!" and then later "Yeah, you're right actually" and that's a good thing! A very good thing!
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
To keep you guys updated:
Hello Pascal,
It has come to our attention that you are under the minimum age to play at PokerStars. As a result, your account has been suspended. You are not permitted to play at PokerStars until you are 18. You may contact us after you turn 18 and we will review your account for reinstatement.
Please be advised if you attempt to play at PokerStars again before turning 18, you will be permanently barred from using our services.
Your cooperation and understanding is appreciated.
Regards,
Cristian O PokerStars Verification Team
So I may use it again in 4 four years... Patience it is... Well not giving up poker obv. Playing at FT currently cashed out in 2 out of 3 freerolls, seems to be going well 0,14
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Canada
Age: 66 (M)
Posts: 2423
Posted by DDPascalDD: To keep you guys updated:
Hello Pascal,
It has come to our attention that you are under the minimum age to play at PokerStars. As a result, your account has been suspended. You are not permitted to play at PokerStars until you are 18. You may contact us after you turn 18 and we will review your account for reinstatement.
Please be advised if you attempt to play at PokerStars again before turning 18, you will be permanently barred from using our services.
Your cooperation and understanding is appreciated.
Regards,
Cristian O PokerStars Verification Team
So I may use it again in 4 four years... Patience it is... Well not giving up poker obv. Playing at FT currently cashed out in 2 out of 3 freerolls, seems to be going well 0,14
if you havn't learned anything for that last email, then i'll help you. somebody ratted you out at stars, so if you want to play poker stop saying where you are playing in this thread.and don't say your nicnames that you play under.
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
Well, I want to say one more thing... Because if you want to understand me, if you want to know how you let me feel, listen and read:
And now Please be human enough to listen what another human has to say to you and don't report or - because then nobody would be able to read it anymore.
I'll dissapear now... (whatever you want)
This all is by the way not meant for persons who know it's not meant to them!
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Canada
Age: 66 (M)
Posts: 2423
Posted by pinotte: I did not reported you to POherStars but just did repor you to BRM.
You are a young duy with a twisted mind un do not understand anythink or listen to anybody.
I don't get it, i havn't seen anything here that would suggest a twisted mind, just a kid trying to play poker, but going about it the wrong way. And can you tell me sir in your 70 years, you've never broken any rules.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
I would suggest - if you're going to continue playing online poker, for real cash (though not depositing) - I suggest just sticking to the smaller sites, that you won't actually care about being banned form..
Last thing you want, is to get a life-ban from one of the major sites and then you won't be able to play there legally when you're 18.
Stick to the shitty sites for now.. Also, if you *do* ever happen to bink a massive score and obviously want to get at the cash, I'd try and find a way to get another person to withdraw for you, if they allow P2P transfers.. If they don't, then you have to deliberately lose it, to your mate, so they can withdraw - you gotta be REALLY careful about that, they have ways of spotting that and both parties can get life-time bans.
One other option, sign up using your parents ID (not to Stars obviously; they're already on to you). Of course - I never suggested doing this, it's naughty.
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 80 (M)
Posts: 3700
Posted by crash58:
Posted by pinotte: I did not reported you to POherStars but just did repor you to BRM.
You are a young duy with a twisted mind un do not understand anythink or listen to anybody.
I don't get it, i havn't seen anything here that would suggest a twisted mind, just a kid trying to play poker, but going about it the wrong way. And can you tell me sir in your 70 years, you've never broken any rules.
Yes i made mistake in my life and paid for my mistake and did not tried to get away by making more mistake.
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by pinotte:
You are a young duy with a twisted mind un do not understand anythink or listen to anybody.
It's funny, you manage the same with 70 years of age!
You mentionned in one of your post that is parents dont want im to play poker fot money,yet he is still do. You told him that it was not right and wait unti 18th. but no he just go on another site and i am the one that is wrong
He is under age and not allowed to play poker for money he knows but dont care are yougone tell me this is ok no problem with this.
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 1859
I neither said you are wrong, nor that he's right. But you make accusations about his personality (which is normal to have weak points in with only 14 years of age) on abilities you're not any better in. The "not listening" part you've proven a few times in this thread, including your latest post.
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Tunisia
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 664
I suggest that you quit stars and wait until you have 18 years old and make another accounts using your parents name (if they don't mind of course), so you can still enjoy playing poker and avoid being blocked by stars which is really a waste. The is a 200$ free on winnerpoker offered by BRM so you can take advantage on it if you want.
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
Posted by highyeah: I suggest that you quit stars and wait until you have 18 years old and make another accounts using your parents name (if they don't mind of course), so you can still enjoy playing poker and avoid being blocked by stars which is really a waste. The is a 200$ free on winnerpoker offered by BRM so you can take advantage on it if you want.
Maybe that'll work, seems like a great option! Thanks!
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 80 (M)
Posts: 3700
Posted by BeMyATMplz: I neither said you are wrong, nor that he's right. But you make accusations about his personality (which is normal to have weak points in with only 14 years of age) on abilities you're not any better in. The "not listening" part you've proven a few times in this thread, including your latest post.
1) Parents dont want him tp play money poker. 2)He open an account here under age i dont know how. 3)he opens account on many poker sites knowing he is not allowed. 4)wanted to be coach and staked by you again not allowed.
This is all normal because he is only 14th. and have weak points and i am the wrong old man that is making mistake.
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 508
Posted by pinotte:
Posted by BeMyATMplz: I neither said you are wrong, nor that he's right. But you make accusations about his personality (which is normal to have weak points in with only 14 years of age) on abilities you're not any better in. The "not listening" part you've proven a few times in this thread, including your latest post.
1) Parents dont want him tp play money poker. 2)He open an account here under age i dont know how. 3)he opens account on many poker sites knowing he is not allowed. 4)wanted to be coach and staked by you again not allowed.
This is all normal because he is only 14th. and have weak points and i am the wrong old man that is making mistake.
It is over with me on this thread.
1) Definitely not true! Solely no depositing because that could cost me too many money 2) How? Just filling in an older age 3) Why so many? 3 and how do you know? 4) I'm corrected and I immediatly agreed that it's no good!
So you're again mastaking and assuming BS without having any clue!
Playing at FT currently cashed out in 2 out of 3 freerolls, seems to be going well 
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