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Morning,
I like to play tournaments, or the 45 players Sit & Go's at Full Tilt, but I always get busted by players that go All-in. So what is a good hand to call a All-in with ? When I have AA or KK I will always call but sometimes players go all-in every round and it is attempting to call them with less.....
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In beginning only with AA, KK. When blinds get higher depends how big/small is your stack. When shortstack and not close to the money you can go allin with AK AQ KQ JJ TT ect, but thats my opinion
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Depends on the blinds. If they do it early on you have time to wait for a monster.
If the blinds are high you must make a stand much sooner.
A guy who goes all-in every hand can have everything. So any hand above average could be used. Naturely this is a high variance play. So you must stand the bust outs
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preflop allin is always a gamble. you can keep good chances by playing premiums. if you however have a guy, where you feel hes not going allin with the goods, you can gamble too, if you like. try to hold at least one high card if you do so, to win if no one hits. heres your big chance to have a big stack early or bust.
thats of course just my oppinion. safe way is to let somebody else take him out or take your shot with a premium starting hand. you should be prepared to have a chip disadvantage when the bingo time is over then tho.
also: be aware of multiway pots and look for spots to put the pressure back on him. and dont tilt if he sucks out horribly.
just my 2 cents of course!
EDIT: just some further note. you really dont wanna end up in a 5way pot. if you have 5 players behind you: drop that A 4 normally. Position, position, position, bla...
small suited connectors wont win without matching the community cards. so i prefer A 8 or K 6 to 6 7 suited.
EDIT2: its really hard to give some advice on this situations. if you feel hes not going allin EVERY hand: be carefull. he might be an superagressive player who knows what hes doing. in this case i try to burn or surprise him. this will usually keep em away from you. or tilt them...
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Lots of varients to how you should play against tha maniac, remember position is most important when deciding to call or not, also if you are chip stacked then why risk it you are only going to lose a blind to him, some 1 will call in the end and eith dubble or bust, do not call with a weak hand just bcos he is all in all the time, wiat for the premim hands if you can, if you are going to get swollowed by the blinds, then you can you dont have much choice then, remember position, like said above, you dant want to be playing lots off ppl you want it heads up if possable. Dont let bad(assumption) play affect how you play.
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GRRRR
Just got thrown ou in 7th place first 6 get payed I had the least chips so I went all in preflop with JJ, one player called with 8 10, three 8's show up on the table
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Posted by Poeinkie: GRRRR
Just got thrown ou in 7th place first 6 get payed I had the least chips so I went all in preflop with JJ, one player called with 8 10, three 8's show up on the table
Thanks for all the tips on all-in players !
One thing i have forgotten.
NEVER go all-in against the players with the winnig accounts.
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Allways call allins with AA and KK and sometimes call with QQ but if the action is like this:utg:ALLIN button:ALLIN sb:ALLIN and you are in bb:? i think you should fold allways QQ and it is 50%/50% situation when you have KK.
I don't know is the short answer, but In my opinion, you can afford to call a pre-flop all-in during the early stages of tournament play with a lot wider range of hands than in the later stages. ( I know this goes against conventional wisdom, but hear me out) In the early stages, there are plenty of donks who will go in with any ace, any king or and two connected cards, suited or not...so if you are in late position with ace and any face or KQ all the pocket pairs down to 6's or 5's - and suited connectors - I find that you will be ahead in most of these situations, and if you're ahgead statisically most of the time, you will end up winning, most of the time - good luck on the felts. FullRudy
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Posted by FullRudy: I don't know is the short answer, but In my opinion, you can afford to call a pre-flop all-in during the early stages of tournament play with a lot wider range of hands than in the later stages. ( I know this goes against conventional wisdom, but hear me out) In the early stages, there are plenty of donks who will go in with any ace, any king or and two connected cards, suited or not...so if you are in late position with ace and any face or KQ all the pocket pairs down to 6's or 5's - and suited connectors - I find that you will be ahead in most of these situations, and if you're ahgead statisically most of the time, you will end up winning, most of the time - good luck on the felts. FullRudy
But you forgot that doubling up early does not mean you will reach the money. If you go for early double ups with your handrange, you will be out a lot, 'cos your a 60% favorite at best.
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Hmmm fullrudy you cant risk your whole stack with KQ, AJ in the beginning of the tourney thats crazy. You can play these hands but not call an allin thats crazy
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Posted by doomdy: Hmmm fullrudy you cant risk your whole stack with KQ, AJ in the beginning of the tourney thats crazy. You can play these hands but not call an allin thats crazy
i do it too at times. some muppets i even call with worse, like K T or suited ace of any sort. fullrudy makes a good point there. the donkeys are there in the early stages. you can grab their money now or let someone else do it and dominate you with a big stack. of course it is a gamble to make this calls! but it is also hoping for luck when you wait for a premium hand, while the muppets are still around. if you can not draw (and win) one (and many premiums are actually not much better against them. when he shovels with 10 high it doesnt matter much if you hold A K or J Q) as long as the bingo players do their thing: you might find yourself with a huge chipdisadvantage against the good players that were ready to gamble in the early stages, once the muppets are gone.
on a sidenote: if you manage to win one of this calls, it might also effect you image on the tables. this guys just saw me calling an allin with king high. do you think i have problems squeezing money out of em when i hit my really good hand?
if i want to play serious poker i play mainly limit meanwhile anyways
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by umarplus: if i want to play serious poker i play mainly limit meanwhile anyways
Minbetpoker is for boys.
Real man play NO limit.
And for the tourneydiscussion: Remeber, even AK will lose against 72o 1 out of 3 times!
and 77 has a bit more then a 50 percent chance to win against 9 T...
for the limits: dont forget i play mainly HORSE and Omaha H/L. i also started playing some Stud H/L meanwhile at cash tables and sit and gos. actually i am very interested in improving my Omaha H/L NL skills.
sooooooo...
wanna play some NL Omaha H/L or HORSE against me, Mr Big Mouth? Im ready if you dare (and find a NL HORSE table)
this said i play some limit holdem too. what makes it a "boys game" in your oppinion?
i enjoy it much more then NL and win easier there then at NL Holdem Cash games...
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Posted by godlike666: Yeah, in the beginning play only premium hands and when blinds are big you can make risky calls or push, but you must have a big stack.
I think this is one of my pokerproblems, I always doing good in the early stages but when blinds go up i get scared and play to reserved, I know I have to stop doing that but it's hard
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Posted by Poeinkie:
Posted by godlike666: Yeah, in the beginning play only premium hands and when blinds are big you can make risky calls or push, but you must have a big stack.
I think this is one of my pokerproblems, I always doing good in the early stages but when blinds go up i get scared and play to reserved, I know I have to stop doing that but it's hard
i know you heard it before. but try playing your position.
also you get a good feeling with time who is a continuation better, who is playing many bluffs and who plays it supertight.
if you are scared of loosing your buyin: play lower buyins scared poker is actually very bad and will be exploited by agressive players easily.
and again: thats just my 2 cents. different people enjoy playing different poker.
@godlikes comment: i agree here a lot; but i found myself having trouble building a big stack with playing premiums only...
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I have the same problem poeinkie allways in beginning good, then when blinds goin up i'm to scared to play even TT AJ ect. Thats why i stopped MTT and only play sit n go, first read couple of books improve my play and then i go back to MTT
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Posted by doomdy: I have the same problem poeinkie allways in beginning good, then when blinds goin up i'm to scared to play even TT AJ ect. Thats why i stopped MTT and only play sit n go, first read couple of books improve my play and then i go back to MTT
Yeah i'm gonnan do the book reading first now, but I'ts not that i'm scared of losing money cause I have the same problem in Freerolls