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Well good you can drop hands like that, offten cause trouble JJ or AJ etc, but if you stuck with it you wold have been up 2k. I think you get good read over the tables, keep it up.
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Jacks are a trouble hand. And against a bunch of opponents you need to hit your set or you are toast. So you don't have a choice, you have to fold. But what on earth was the guy with AQ thinking?
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Btw I didn't mean to be sarcastic I ment skill/bankroll aren't you ready for 2-3-4 tables 20$ ofcourse you'll get a lower ROI but I still think it would be more profitable
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M3 right, surly you cant consentrate playing 6 tables (turbo) do 3 at $20, and hows vista? iv not gone for it yet., or atleast resize lol, 2 screens wouldent go amiss, i tryd to do it but found out you need 2 graphics cards.
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Just ot clear some things up. Short shack just lost a big pot so he could push with anything. Podu calls and puts me in a tough spot. Is podu calling just cause he thinks short can push with anything? If I push is podu pot commited? But than I realize I'm probably a coin flip at best and fold, plus still people to act behind.
B1gfoot, ya, I just relized if I called I'd be up ~1500. I think because have to give almost 500 to short stack. And its actually Windows XP with vista template lol. I have vista on my other computer, I like it. Webcam/mic won't work on vista but its ok.
M3turbo, B1gfoot, right now I play like a robot and just play abc poker and I'm winning so thats good. I just think if I go to the $20 sngs, the skill level will be a lot higher. Maybe I'll mix in 1 or 2 $20 sngs and see how it goes.
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I know what you mean about robot ABC poker I did that too for pretty long time at NL50 but if you put just a litlle effort into it I really believe you can make a much greater profit playing 20/30$. Your ROR will be higher, ROI will be lower and you'll have to think a bit but the profit will make up for it......it's all about money
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I just cashed out of pokerstars $818, just received the cheque today
I'm playing on poker770, ipoker network. Got $7.70 free and they gave me $20 free on fathers day lol. I deposited $20 and working off $20 Bonus. Have to pay $100 rake so its only 20% rake back, not great but I'll work it off fast. They have double up sit and gos where 5 out of 10 double their money. I'm doing good in those.
There's not great traffic for ipoker network, hard to get a $20 or $30 sng started. Half way done the deposit bonus, maybe I can try at the next poker room.
Where are you playing at now M3turbo and what limits?
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Dohh still playing Stars...pretty stupid question after you just posted a pic from poker770 but im too fast/slow sometime
Just cleared 600$ first deposit bonus at Betfred(Ipoker), now reloaded Party for 100$ bonus and made first deposit on Bet365(Ipoker) to clear another 600$ bonus. Mostly play NL100 6max great money soft traffic. I allmost got roll for NL400 but I don't want to play scared money so I wait a bit. Just getting experience and whoring the nice 1st deposit bonus'
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How long does it take you to clear $600 bonus? I've only cleared like $50 bonuses. And what rakeback do you get?
I'm going to try out VC Poker after Action Poker. They have a 600% deposit bonus but I don't know what rakeback % it is.
I was 8 tabling today, I'll try 10 tables tomorrow. Just joking But I did play 8 tables and I noticed it affected my game. I often play not at peak hours so it takes a while to get a $20 sng going so I just do half and half on $5 and $10. I can do 6 no problem cause I play tight and there's never less than 6 players at a table cause top 5 win.
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If nothing has changed, then the bonus at VC Poker clears at a rate of 60 points per dollar. Released in increments of 5 bucks. So you got paid for every 300 points. But look at the time you have to clear it. Only 30 or 45 days.
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@GeneYuss
I checked some rakeback calculators found on google, most of them say just over 30$ pr 1K hands at NL100 6max with a 30% rakeback deal wich is most common. Sadly most rakeback sites are full og tight regulars and very few spewing monkeys. Because of that I chose bonus whoring, I don't know any exact numbers but it's close. I aprox release 30$ pr day/1K hands which would have been like 33,5$ with a rakeback deal but the soft traffic on the big sites makes up for it++ imo. No doubt go for VC I think all Ipoker clients have cashback system, where you get a part of your prior month's rake in pending bonus to clear+ reloads sometime, in that way they encourage you to play more. Just make sure you never play without a bonus/rakeback deal in your back it's to much money to let pass If it wasn't for the danish tax system I would be playing Fulltilt with 27% rakeback. Soft traffic + rakeback doesn't get any better.¨
Edit: my guess about the bonus would be that it's like a 25% rakeback deal
You got 3 months to clear first deposit and 1 month to clear the monthly cashback bonus(obv monthly) this is how it was at Betfred.
@shokaku points are earned at different rate on different sites and have different value there for it doesn't say anything about how easy/hard it is when you say 60 points pr $.
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VC Poker : "40 Action Points are awarded for every $1 of fee collected." Releasing at 60 points per $1 means 66% rake back? That's pretty sweet and just have to deposit $200 to get $600 pending and paid in increments of $5 which is good cause I might not clear the whole thing.
$600 - need 36000 points to clear = 900 $10 sngs lol.
I can play 12 sngs per hour(6 at a time, they only last ~30min) so 75 hours to work off bonus.
= ~2hours of VC per day for 45 days to earn $600 bonus
I think I can do it, Have to invest $9900 in sngs, $900 of it is rake, in 45 days.
Would be my biggest challenge yet, I like challenges
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Hehe yeah I heard VC has the easiest bonus on all market which they also prove on their site, sadly I've been there done that Besides that prolly best loyalty program too actually thinking of returning now
I've heard about gift offers lately I been thinking of trying it my only issue is as you mentioned the danish tax rules, the site must have EU-license class 3(gambling license that proves it's regulated by the government) if a pokersite/onlinecasino doesn't have that it's tax related and who want's to pay 50% of your winnings in tax....no way im doing that so I just stick to EU sites. Ofcourse many danes play on Stars which in danish eyes are the loosest site of all and many people withdraw and hope not to get busted but I dont see a reason for taking the chance when there is so many sites with EU license. The tax office also recently made a special department only caring about internet gambling which seems to be quite effective so I'll stay out of their way
btw. You either grind or develop rarely people do both at same time. Grind will make you rich now, development will make you richer in the long run. Multi table S&G in robot style will not develop your game(not very much) and I dont think it's the optimal for profit either. Think about it
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VC Poker, loyalty program, do you mean they have nice deposit bonuses? Did you see the one they have, deposit 50k Euro using money bookers, get 50k points, get 2k Euro free. That's crazy lol, I'm going to get 36k points to get $600, getting 50k points to get $3000 is crazy lol. If I had $75k I might think about it lol.
Ya, you should definitely stick to poker rooms with EU license. No point in risking half your winnings
Ya, I know what you mean about grinding or developing. I should a system going like Mago666 where everytime I reach certain amount of bankroll, increase limit.
Step it up GeneYuss you can't keep playing 5$ S&G oh well I guess you can 
