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Pero brate, i hear you, from now on ill start shoving preflop with KT
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Posted by marqis:
Posted by SBEP: Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them
Are you referring to you agreeing with Damosk? I saw that (and in fact read the whole thread). My point about superstition is in fact the same one that Damosk made. I just reiterated it slightly more succinct. I could have said to not compensate for variance by playing suboptimally (which again is the same point).
------------------------------------------------------ I do get your point, on how easy it is to become superstitious on a poker table, easily mistaking variance when its not in your favor, for bad luck, and superstition takes over from there, you start thinking to yourself im cursed never to win with this hand, but im talking here about something completely different, way beyond variance, way beyond applied hand odd`s, im always card dead with KJ on fulltillt, once i hit a pair of J`s that got crushed by ace`s and that`s the closest a got to make something with that hand, and like i said before, i have played them every way possible, you can play a hand, just to eliminate the player errors, so no1 can say "ahhhhh, you played the hand weak, that`s why you lost". I hope now, i have explained it on whats "weird" with KJ on FT for me, a bit better, if not, then i guess the problem lies with me, not be able to explain it.
------------ The curse continues --------------------------------------- Full Tilt Poker Game #35548405984: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364650), Table 7 - NL Hold'em - 20/40 - 21:48:00 CET - 2015/05/06 [15:48:00 ET - 2015/05/06] Seat 1: AMoreira1 (1,440), is sitting out Seat 2: dutik195 (2,940) Seat 3: SBEP (1,545) Seat 4: kkascio12 (1,350) Seat 5: Mixinmax (1,500) Seat 6: BSV UA (7,115) Seat 7: WOWKA999 (3,495) Seat 8: rhcwilly (1,750), is sitting out rhcwilly posts the small blind of 20 AMoreira1 posts the big blind of 40 The button is in seat #7 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Ks Js] Dcruvinel sits down dutik195 has 15 seconds left to act dutik195 folds SBEP calls 40 kkascio12 folds rhcwilly has returned Mixinmax calls 40 BSV UA folds WOWKA999 folds rhcwilly calls 20 AMoreira1 checks *** FLOP *** [3s 4d 9s] (Total Pot: 160, 4 Players) rhcwilly bets 40 AMoreira1 folds SBEP calls 40 Mixinmax calls 40 *** TURN *** [3s 4d 9s] (Total Pot: 280, 3 Players) rhcwilly bets 40 SBEP calls 40 Mixinmax folds *** RIVER *** [3s 4d 9s Td] (Total Pot: 360, 2 Players) rhcwilly bets 360 SBEP raises to 1,425, and is all in rhcwilly calls 1,065 *** SHOW DOWN *** SBEP shows [Ks Js] a pair of Threes rhcwilly shows [Tc 6h] two pair, Tens and Threes rhcwilly wins the pot (3,210) with two pair, Tens and Threes *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3,210 | Rake 0 Board: [3s 4d 9s Td 3h] Seat 1: AMoreira1 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 2: dutik195 didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: SBEP showed [Ks Js] and lost with a pair of Threes Seat 4: kkascio12 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: Mixinmax folded on the Turn Seat 6: BSV UA didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: WOWKA999 (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: rhcwilly (small blind) showed [Tc 6h] and won (3,210) with two pair, Tens and Threes
------------ and it goes on and on -------------------------------------------------- Full Tilt Poker Game #35548729210: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364995), Table 12 - NL Hold'em - 15/30 - 23:35:43 CET - 2015/05/06 [17:35:43 ET - 2015/05/06] Seat 1: vecha18 (4,298) Seat 2: Kalita (1,455) Seat 3: pokerpro9203 (1,440) Seat 4: tomas2112 (1,500) Seat 5: garfield89 (4,530) Seat 7: SBEP (1,500) Seat 8: ftrina (1,500) Seat 9: winnipegrob (1,500), is sitting out garfield89 posts the small blind of 15 SBEP posts the big blind of 30 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jc] ftrina folds winnipegrob folds juker13 sits down vecha18 calls 30 Kalita calls 30 pokerpro9203 calls 30 garfield89 calls 15 SBEP checks *** FLOP *** [7c Ad 8d] (Total Pot: 150, 5 Players) garfield89 has 15 seconds left to act garfield89 bets 30 SBEP calls 30 vecha18 folds Kalita calls 30 pokerpro9203 calls 30 *** TURN *** [7c Ad 8d] (Total Pot: 270, 4 Players) garfield89 bets 30 SBEP calls 30 Kalita calls 30 pokerpro9203 calls 30 *** RIVER *** [7c Ad 8d 9c] (Total Pot: 390, 4 Players) garfield89 bets 390 SBEP has 15 seconds left to act SBEP folds Kalita folds pokerpro9203 folds Uncalled bet of 390 returned to garfield89 garfield89 mucks garfield89 wins the pot (390) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 390 | Rake 0 Board: [7c Ad 8d 9c 3h] Seat 1: vecha18 folded on the Flop Seat 2: Kalita folded on the River Seat 3: pokerpro9203 (button) folded on the River Seat 4: tomas2112 is sitting out Seat 5: garfield89 (small blind) collected (390), mucked Seat 7: SBEP (big blind) folded on the River Seat 8: ftrina didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: winnipegrob didn't bet (folded)
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35548983397: Velociraptor (293793751), Table 59 - NL Hold'em - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - 01:13:14 CET - 2015/05/07 [19:13:14 ET - 2015/05/06] Seat 1: sehjal-08 (41,373) Seat 2: rooski15 (61,136) Seat 3: xane7a (114,273) Seat 4: bigpoppa613 (83,836) Seat 5: diman kovrov (115,258) Seat 6: ElJoeno (40,981) Seat 7: ArT1F1cE (77,563) Seat 8: iraque78 (41,452) Seat 9: Pablo Spiroli (2,917) sehjal-08 antes 300 rooski15 antes 300 xane7a antes 300 bigpoppa613 antes 300 diman kovrov antes 300 ElJoeno antes 300 ArT1F1cE antes 300 iraque78 antes 300 Pablo Spiroli antes 300 diman kovrov posts the small blind of 1,200 ElJoeno posts the big blind of 2,400 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to iraque78 [Kh Jh] ArT1F1cE folds iraque78 calls 2,400 Pablo Spiroli has 15 seconds left to act Pablo Spiroli raises to 2,617, and is all in sehjal-08 folds rooski15 folds xane7a has 15 seconds left to act xane7a raises to 6,255 bigpoppa613 folds diman kovrov folds ElJoeno has 15 seconds left to act ElJoeno calls 3,855 iraque78 calls 3,855 *** FLOP *** [Qh 5h 3d] (Total Pot: 25,282, 4 Players, 1 All-In) ElJoeno checks iraque78 checks xane7a bets 8,595 ElJoeno folds iraque78 calls 8,595 *** TURN *** [Qh 5h 3d] (Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In) iraque78 checks xane7a checks *** RIVER *** [Qh 5h 3d 2h] (Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In) iraque78 bets 14,400 xane7a folds Uncalled bet of 14,400 returned to iraque78 iraque78 wins the side pot (28,104) *** SHOW DOWN *** iraque78 shows [Kh Jh] a flush, King high Pablo Spiroli mucks iraque78 wins the main pot (14,368) with a flush, King high *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 42,472 Main pot 14,368. Side pot 28,104. | Rake 0 Board: [Qh 5h 3d 2h 9h] Seat 1: sehjal-08 folded before the Flop Seat 2: rooski15 folded before the Flop Seat 3: xane7a folded on the River Seat 4: bigpoppa613 (button) folded before the Flop Seat 5: diman kovrov (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: ElJoeno (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 7: ArT1F1cE folded before the Flop Seat 8: iraque78 showed [Kh Jh] and won (42,472) with a flush, King high Seat 9: Pablo Spiroli mucked [Ac 5s] - a pair of Fives
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and on and on --------------------------------------------- Full Tilt Poker Game #35550131837: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293363298), Table 42 - NL Hold'em - 20/40 - 13:46:01 CET - 2015/05/07 [07:46:01 ET - 2015/05/07] Seat 1: Donar11 (3,030), is sitting out Seat 2: Aka nomber 1 (1,195) Seat 3: Justadima (2,812) Seat 4: caprussia (1,405) Seat 5: sega stilll (1,370) Seat 7: BigEdvard (3,388) Seat 8: SBEP (780) Seat 9: bickford0ffka (1,860) sega stilll posts the small blind of 20 BigEdvard posts the big blind of 40 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jd] SBEP raises to 780, and is all in bickford0ffka folds Donar11 folds Aka nomber 1 raises to 1,195, and is all in Morungabarba sits down Justadima folds caprussia folds sega stilll folds BigEdvard folds Aka nomber 1 shows [As Kd] SBEP shows [Ks Jd] Uncalled bet of 415 returned to Aka nomber 1 *** FLOP *** [6d 3s Kh] (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** TURN *** [6d 3s Kh] (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** RIVER *** [6d 3s Kh 4c] (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In) Aka nomber 1 shows a pair of Kings SBEP shows a pair of Kings Aka nomber 1 wins the pot (1,620) with a pair of Kings *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,620 | Rake 0 Board: [6d 3s Kh 4c 5d] Seat 1: Donar11 didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: Aka nomber 1 showed [As Kd] and won (1,620) with a pair of Kings Seat 3: Justadima didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: caprussia (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: sega stilll (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 7: BigEdvard (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 8: SBEP showed [Ks Jd] and lost with a pair of Kings Seat 9: bickford0ffka didn't bet (folded)
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Posted by marqis:
Posted by SBEP: Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them
Are you referring to you agreeing with Damosk? I saw that (and in fact read the whole thread). My point about superstition is in fact the same one that Damosk made. I just reiterated it slightly more succinct. I could have said to not compensate for variance by playing suboptimally (which again is the same point).
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550647777: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 20 - NL Hold'em - 15/30 - 17:42:32 CET - 2015/05/07 [11:42:32 ET - 2015/05/07] Seat 1: russik2999 (2,460) Seat 2: komar8585 (2,955) Seat 3: Magy76 (1,440) Seat 4: orest22 (1,275) Seat 5: SBEP (2,610) Seat 6: viorel87tl (5,910) Seat 7: Sergei1956ss (1,395) Seat 8: max123478 (1,635) Seat 9: vedmak_2000 (1,395) russik2999 posts the small blind of 15 komar8585 posts the big blind of 30 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Jc Kh] Magy76 folds orest22 folds SBEP calls 30 viorel87tl has 15 seconds left to act viorel87tl folds Sergei1956ss has 15 seconds left to act Sergei1956ss raises to 135 max123478 calls 135 vedmak_2000 folds russik2999 calls 120 komar8585 folds SBEP calls 105 *** FLOP *** [Ad 3h 6s] (Total Pot: 570, 4 Players) russik2999 checks SBEP checks Sergei1956ss checks max123478 bets 1,500, and is all in russik2999 folds SBEP has 15 seconds left to act SBEP folds Sergei1956ss calls 1,260, and is all in max123478 shows [Ac 7d] Sergei1956ss shows [Ks Kd] Uncalled bet of 240 returned to max123478 *** TURN *** [Ad 3h 6s] (Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** RIVER *** [Ad 3h 6s 4h] (Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In) max123478 shows a pair of Aces Sergei1956ss shows a pair of Kings max123478 wins the pot (3,090) with a pair of Aces *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3,090 | Rake 0 Board: [Ad 3h 6s 4h Qs] Seat 1: russik2999 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 2: komar8585 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: Magy76 didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: orest22 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: SBEP folded on the Flop Seat 6: viorel87tl didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: Sergei1956ss showed [Ks Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings Seat 8: max123478 showed [Ac 7d] and won (3,090) with a pair of Aces Seat 9: vedmak_2000 (button) didn't bet (folded)
------------ Full Tilt Poker Game #35550721912: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 76 - NL Hold'em - 30/60 - 18:13:13 CET - 2015/05/07 [12:13:13 ET - 2015/05/07] Seat 1: SBEP (7,270) Seat 2: nikolasradu (5,145) Seat 3: Serg1903 (4,975) Seat 4: Freehansi (7,230) Seat 5: safire12 (2,535), is sitting out Seat 6: 1MACS (4,490) Seat 7: john_lima82 (6,420) Seat 8: SillySayLoR (6,085) Seat 9: nonIQ (755) nikolasradu posts the small blind of 30 Serg1903 posts the big blind of 60 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jh] Freehansi has 15 seconds left to act Freehansi folds safire12 folds 1MACS folds john_lima82 calls 60 SillySayLoR folds nonIQ folds SBEP calls 60 nikolasradu calls 30 Serg1903 checks *** FLOP *** [4s Ad 2h] (Total Pot: 240, 4 Players) nikolasradu checks Serg1903 checks john_lima82 bets 360 SBEP has 15 seconds left to act SBEP folds nikolasradu calls 360 Serg1903 folds *** TURN *** [4s Ad 2h] (Total Pot: 960, 2 Players) nikolasradu checks john_lima82 has 15 seconds left to act john_lima82 bets 2,040 nikolasradu calls 2,040 *** RIVER *** [4s Ad 2h 6s] (Total Pot: 5,040, 2 Players) nikolasradu checks john_lima82 checks *** SHOW DOWN *** john_lima82 shows [As 7d] two pair, Aces and Twos nikolasradu mucks john_lima82 wins the pot (5,040) with two pair, Aces and Twos *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5,040 | Rake 0 Board: [4s Ad 2h 6s 2s] Seat 1: SBEP (button) folded on the Flop Seat 2: nikolasradu (small blind) mucked [Qc 3d] - a pair of Twos Seat 3: Serg1903 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: Freehansi didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: safire12 didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: 1MACS didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: john_lima82 showed [As 7d] and won (5,040) with two pair, Aces and Twos Seat 8: SillySayLoR didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: nonIQ didn't bet (folded)
------------ YEEEEEEeeeeHHHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaaaa finaly broke the spell ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Full Tilt Poker Game #35550805974: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 49 - NL Hold'em - 60/120 Ante 15 - 18:47:18 CET - 2015/05/07 [12:47:18 ET - 2015/05/07] Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (6,595) Seat 2: Bocao171 (17,323) Seat 3: SBEP (7,125) Seat 4: nemaula (8,483) Seat 5: e9094 (1,445) Seat 7: Albert090673 (13,825) Seat 8: knopikt (3,470) Seat 9: max_booh (1,615) xxMENANGANxx antes 15 Bocao171 antes 15 SBEP antes 15 nemaula antes 15 e9094 antes 15 Albert090673 antes 15 knopikt antes 15 max_booh antes 15 SBEP posts the small blind of 60 nemaula posts the big blind of 120 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Kc Jc] e9094 folds Albert090673 calls 120 knopikt folds max_booh folds xxMENANGANxx folds Bocao171 calls 120 SBEP calls 60 nemaula checks *** FLOP *** [7s 2h Qh] (Total Pot: 600, 4 Players) SBEP bets 120 nemaula calls 120 Albert090673 folds Bocao171 calls 120 *** TURN *** [7s 2h Qh] (Total Pot: 960, 3 Players) mannvitt sits down SBEP bets 240 nemaula folds Bocao171 calls 240 *** RIVER *** [7s 2h Qh Ad] (Total Pot: 1,440, 2 Players) SBEP bets 720 Bocao171 folds Uncalled bet of 720 returned to SBEP SBEP mucks SBEP wins the pot (1,440) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,440 | Rake 0 Board: [7s 2h Qh Ad 4d] Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx folded before the Flop Seat 2: Bocao171 (button) folded on the River Seat 3: SBEP (small blind) collected (1,440), mucked Seat 4: nemaula (big blind) folded on the Turn Seat 5: e9094 folded before the Flop Seat 7: Albert090673 folded on the Flop Seat 8: knopikt folded before the Flop Seat 9: max_booh folded before the Flop
------------ Full Tilt Poker Game #35550985068: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 49 - NL Hold'em - 250/500 Ante 50 - 19:48:06 CET - 2015/05/07 [13:48:06 ET - 2015/05/07] Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (9,679) Seat 3: SBEP (4,375) Seat 4: nivanov045 (2,310), is sitting out Seat 5: e9094 (10,685), is sitting out Seat 6: DovisZzZ (2,307), is sitting out Seat 7: Albert090673 (19,720) Seat 8: vdelonge (21,021) Seat 9: emes1957 (3,000) xxMENANGANxx antes 50 SBEP antes 50 nivanov045 antes 50 e9094 antes 50 DovisZzZ antes 50 Albert090673 antes 50 vdelonge antes 50 emes1957 antes 50 SBEP posts the small blind of 250 nivanov045 posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jh] e9094 folds DovisZzZ folds Albert090673 calls 500 vdelonge folds emes1957 folds xxMENANGANxx folds e9094 has returned SBEP calls 250 nivanov045 checks *** FLOP *** [Jc Kd 5h] (Total Pot: 1,900, 3 Players) SBEP checks nivanov045 checks Albert090673 bets 500 SBEP raises to 1,500 nivanov045 folds Albert090673 folds Uncalled bet of 1,000 returned to SBEP SBEP mucks SBEP wins the pot (2,900) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2,900 | Rake 0 Board: [Jc Kd 5h] Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (button) folded before the Flop Seat 3: SBEP (small blind) collected (2,900), mucked Seat 4: nivanov045 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: e9094 folded before the Flop Seat 6: DovisZzZ folded before the Flop Seat 7: Albert090673 folded on the Flop Seat 8: vdelonge folded before the Flop Seat 9: emes1957 folded before the Flop
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Posted by SBEP: Ever since i have been playing on fulltillt, i have noticed something that's been happening to me over and over and over and over and over again, I HAVE NEVER, NEVER, NEEEEVVVEEERRRR won a hand with KJ, has any1 else have that problem with KJ, or has any1 else have a hand that no matter what the circumstance u can never win with it ? I hate KJ on fulltillt, pokerstars, bring it onnn
pokerstar in the poker school they teach that kj is really a problem the player think this with a good hand but not just a mistake, recommend careful with that hand
haaha 
(Total Pot: 280, 3 Players)
(Total Pot: 360, 2 Players)
(Total Pot: 270, 4 Players)
(Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 960, 2 Players)
(Total Pot: 5,040, 2 Players)
(Total Pot: 960, 3 Players)
(Total Pot: 1,440, 2 Players)
