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Tebra i suggest u to use K10 instead of KJ ,i lost couple time with AA ,JJ AK AQ AGAINST k10 Big Smile haaha Cool

     
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Pero brate, i hear you, from now on ill start shoving preflop with KT Worship Big Smile

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Posted by marqis:
Posted by SBEP:
Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them Big Smile

Are you referring to you agreeing with Damosk? I saw that (and in fact read the whole thread). My point about superstition is in fact the same one that Damosk made. I just reiterated it slightly more succinct.
I could have said to not compensate for variance by playing suboptimally (which again is the same point).

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I do get your point, on how easy it is to become superstitious on a poker table, easily mistaking variance when its not in your favor, for bad luck, and superstition takes over from there, you start thinking to yourself im cursed never to win with this hand, but im talking here about something completely different, way beyond variance, way beyond applied hand odd`s, im always card dead with KJ on fulltillt, once i hit a pair of J`s that got crushed by ace`s and that`s the closest a got to make something with that hand, and like i said before, i have played them every way possible, you can play a hand, just to eliminate the player errors, so no1 can say "ahhhhh, you played the hand weak, that`s why you lost".
I hope now, i have explained it on whats "weird" with KJ on FT for me, a bit better, if not, then i guess the problem lies with me, not be able to explain it.

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The curse continues Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35548405984: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364650), Table 7 - NL Hold'em - 20/40 - 21:48:00 CET - 2015/05/06 [15:48:00 ET - 2015/05/06]
Seat 1: AMoreira1 (1,440), is sitting out
Seat 2: dutik195 (2,940)
Seat 3: SBEP (1,545)
Seat 4: kkascio12 (1,350)
Seat 5: Mixinmax (1,500)
Seat 6: BSV UA (7,115)
Seat 7: WOWKA999 (3,495)
Seat 8: rhcwilly (1,750), is sitting out
rhcwilly posts the small blind of 20
AMoreira1 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Ks Js]
Dcruvinel sits down
dutik195 has 15 seconds left to act
dutik195 folds
SBEP calls 40
kkascio12 folds
rhcwilly has returned
Mixinmax calls 40
BSV UA folds
WOWKA999 folds
rhcwilly calls 20
AMoreira1 checks
*** FLOP *** [3s 4d 9s] (Total Pot: 160, 4 Players)
rhcwilly bets 40
AMoreira1 folds
SBEP calls 40
Mixinmax calls 40
*** TURN *** [3s 4d 9s] 10 of diamonds (Total Pot: 280, 3 Players)
rhcwilly bets 40
SBEP calls 40
Mixinmax folds
*** RIVER *** [3s 4d 9s Td] 3 of hearts (Total Pot: 360, 2 Players)
rhcwilly bets 360
SBEP raises to 1,425, and is all in
rhcwilly calls 1,065
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SBEP shows [Ks Js] a pair of Threes
rhcwilly shows [Tc 6h] two pair, Tens and Threes
rhcwilly wins the pot (3,210) with two pair, Tens and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,210 | Rake 0
Board: [3s 4d 9s Td 3h]
Seat 1: AMoreira1 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: dutik195 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: SBEP showed [Ks Js] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: kkascio12 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Mixinmax folded on the Turn
Seat 6: BSV UA didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: WOWKA999 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: rhcwilly (small blind) showed [Tc 6h] and won (3,210) with two pair, Tens and Threes

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and it goes on and on
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35548729210: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364995), Table 12 - NL Hold'em - 15/30 - 23:35:43 CET - 2015/05/06 [17:35:43 ET - 2015/05/06]
Seat 1: vecha18 (4,298)
Seat 2: Kalita (1,455)
Seat 3: pokerpro9203 (1,440)
Seat 4: tomas2112 (1,500)
Seat 5: garfield89 (4,530)
Seat 7: SBEP (1,500)
Seat 8: ftrina (1,500)
Seat 9: winnipegrob (1,500), is sitting out
garfield89 posts the small blind of 15
SBEP posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jc]
ftrina folds
winnipegrob folds
juker13 sits down
vecha18 calls 30
Kalita calls 30
pokerpro9203 calls 30
garfield89 calls 15
SBEP checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Ad 8d] (Total Pot: 150, 5 Players)
garfield89 has 15 seconds left to act
garfield89 bets 30
SBEP calls 30
vecha18 folds
Kalita calls 30
pokerpro9203 calls 30
*** TURN *** [7c Ad 8d] 9 of clubs (Total Pot: 270, 4 Players)
garfield89 bets 30
SBEP calls 30
Kalita calls 30
pokerpro9203 calls 30
*** RIVER *** [7c Ad 8d 9c] 3 of hearts (Total Pot: 390, 4 Players)
garfield89 bets 390
SBEP has 15 seconds left to act
SBEP folds
Kalita folds
pokerpro9203 folds
Uncalled bet of 390 returned to garfield89
garfield89 mucks
garfield89 wins the pot (390)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 390 | Rake 0
Board: [7c Ad 8d 9c 3h]
Seat 1: vecha18 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Kalita folded on the River
Seat 3: pokerpro9203 (button) folded on the River
Seat 4: tomas2112 is sitting out
Seat 5: garfield89 (small blind) collected (390), mucked
Seat 7: SBEP (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: ftrina didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: winnipegrob didn't bet (folded)

Edited by SBEP (06 May 2015 @ 21:37 GMT)


     
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35548983397: Velociraptor (293793751), Table 59 - NL Hold'em - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - 01:13:14 CET - 2015/05/07 [19:13:14 ET - 2015/05/06]
Seat 1: sehjal-08 (41,373)
Seat 2: rooski15 (61,136)
Seat 3: xane7a (114,273)
Seat 4: bigpoppa613 (83,836)
Seat 5: diman kovrov (115,258)
Seat 6: ElJoeno (40,981)
Seat 7: ArT1F1cE (77,563)
Seat 8: iraque78 (41,452)
Seat 9: Pablo Spiroli (2,917)
sehjal-08 antes 300
rooski15 antes 300
xane7a antes 300
bigpoppa613 antes 300
diman kovrov antes 300
ElJoeno antes 300
ArT1F1cE antes 300
iraque78 antes 300
Pablo Spiroli antes 300
diman kovrov posts the small blind of 1,200
ElJoeno posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iraque78 [Kh Jh]
ArT1F1cE folds
iraque78 calls 2,400
Pablo Spiroli has 15 seconds left to act
Pablo Spiroli raises to 2,617, and is all in
sehjal-08 folds
rooski15 folds
xane7a has 15 seconds left to act
xane7a raises to 6,255
bigpoppa613 folds
diman kovrov folds
ElJoeno has 15 seconds left to act
ElJoeno calls 3,855
iraque78 calls 3,855
*** FLOP *** [Qh 5h 3d] (Total Pot: 25,282, 4 Players, 1 All-In)
ElJoeno checks
iraque78 checks
xane7a bets 8,595
ElJoeno folds
iraque78 calls 8,595
*** TURN *** [Qh 5h 3d] 2 of hearts (Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
iraque78 checks
xane7a checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh 5h 3d 2h] 9 of hearts (Total Pot: 42,472, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
iraque78 bets 14,400
xane7a folds
Uncalled bet of 14,400 returned to iraque78
iraque78 wins the side pot (28,104)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
iraque78 shows [Kh Jh] a flush, King high
Pablo Spiroli mucks
iraque78 wins the main pot (14,368) with a flush, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 42,472 Main pot 14,368. Side pot 28,104. | Rake 0
Board: [Qh 5h 3d 2h 9h]
Seat 1: sehjal-08 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: rooski15 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: xane7a folded on the River
Seat 4: bigpoppa613 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: diman kovrov (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ElJoeno (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ArT1F1cE folded before the Flop
Seat 8: iraque78 showed [Kh Jh] and won (42,472) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: Pablo Spiroli mucked [Ac 5s] - a pair of Fives

     
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and on and on Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550131837: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293363298), Table 42 - NL Hold'em - 20/40 - 13:46:01 CET - 2015/05/07 [07:46:01 ET - 2015/05/07]
Seat 1: Donar11 (3,030), is sitting out
Seat 2: Aka nomber 1 (1,195)
Seat 3: Justadima (2,812)
Seat 4: caprussia (1,405)
Seat 5: sega stilll (1,370)
Seat 7: BigEdvard (3,388)
Seat 8: SBEP (780)
Seat 9: bickford0ffka (1,860)
sega stilll posts the small blind of 20
BigEdvard posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jd]
SBEP raises to 780, and is all in
bickford0ffka folds
Donar11 folds
Aka nomber 1 raises to 1,195, and is all in
Morungabarba sits down
Justadima folds
caprussia folds
sega stilll folds
BigEdvard folds
Aka nomber 1 shows [As Kd]
SBEP shows [Ks Jd]
Uncalled bet of 415 returned to Aka nomber 1
*** FLOP *** [6d 3s Kh] (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** TURN *** [6d 3s Kh] 4 of clubs (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** RIVER *** [6d 3s Kh 4c] 5 of diamonds (Total Pot: 1,620, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
Aka nomber 1 shows a pair of Kings
SBEP shows a pair of Kings
Aka nomber 1 wins the pot (1,620) with a pair of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,620 | Rake 0
Board: [6d 3s Kh 4c 5d]
Seat 1: Donar11 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Aka nomber 1 showed [As Kd] and won (1,620) with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Justadima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: caprussia (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: sega stilll (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: BigEdvard (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: SBEP showed [Ks Jd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: bickford0ffka didn't bet (folded)

     
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Posted by marqis:
Posted by SBEP:
Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them Big Smile

Are you referring to you agreeing with Damosk? I saw that (and in fact read the whole thread). My point about superstition is in fact the same one that Damosk made. I just reiterated it slightly more succinct.
I could have said to not compensate for variance by playing suboptimally (which again is the same point).

Na I think you miss understood demo dogs post .

     
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550647777: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 20 - NL Hold'em - 15/30 - 17:42:32 CET - 2015/05/07 [11:42:32 ET - 2015/05/07]
Seat 1: russik2999 (2,460)
Seat 2: komar8585 (2,955)
Seat 3: Magy76 (1,440)
Seat 4: orest22 (1,275)
Seat 5: SBEP (2,610)
Seat 6: viorel87tl (5,910)
Seat 7: Sergei1956ss (1,395)
Seat 8: max123478 (1,635)
Seat 9: vedmak_2000 (1,395)
russik2999 posts the small blind of 15
komar8585 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Jc Kh]
Magy76 folds
orest22 folds
SBEP calls 30
viorel87tl has 15 seconds left to act
viorel87tl folds
Sergei1956ss has 15 seconds left to act
Sergei1956ss raises to 135
max123478 calls 135
vedmak_2000 folds
russik2999 calls 120
komar8585 folds
SBEP calls 105
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3h 6s] (Total Pot: 570, 4 Players)
russik2999 checks
SBEP checks
Sergei1956ss checks
max123478 bets 1,500, and is all in
russik2999 folds
SBEP has 15 seconds left to act
SBEP folds
Sergei1956ss calls 1,260, and is all in
max123478 shows [Ac 7d]
Sergei1956ss shows [Ks Kd]
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to max123478
*** TURN *** [Ad 3h 6s] 4 of hearts (Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** RIVER *** [Ad 3h 6s 4h] Queen of spades (Total Pot: 3,090, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
max123478 shows a pair of Aces
Sergei1956ss shows a pair of Kings
max123478 wins the pot (3,090) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,090 | Rake 0
Board: [Ad 3h 6s 4h Qs]
Seat 1: russik2999 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: komar8585 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Magy76 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: orest22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SBEP folded on the Flop
Seat 6: viorel87tl didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Sergei1956ss showed [Ks Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: max123478 showed [Ac 7d] and won (3,090) with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: vedmak_2000 (button) didn't bet (folded)

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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550721912: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 76 - NL Hold'em - 30/60 - 18:13:13 CET - 2015/05/07 [12:13:13 ET - 2015/05/07]
Seat 1: SBEP (7,270)
Seat 2: nikolasradu (5,145)
Seat 3: Serg1903 (4,975)
Seat 4: Freehansi (7,230)
Seat 5: safire12 (2,535), is sitting out
Seat 6: 1MACS (4,490)
Seat 7: john_lima82 (6,420)
Seat 8: SillySayLoR (6,085)
Seat 9: nonIQ (755)
nikolasradu posts the small blind of 30
Serg1903 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jh]
Freehansi has 15 seconds left to act
Freehansi folds
safire12 folds
1MACS folds
john_lima82 calls 60
SillySayLoR folds
nonIQ folds
SBEP calls 60
nikolasradu calls 30
Serg1903 checks
*** FLOP *** [4s Ad 2h] (Total Pot: 240, 4 Players)
nikolasradu checks
Serg1903 checks
john_lima82 bets 360
SBEP has 15 seconds left to act
SBEP folds
nikolasradu calls 360
Serg1903 folds
*** TURN *** [4s Ad 2h] 6 of spades (Total Pot: 960, 2 Players)
nikolasradu checks
john_lima82 has 15 seconds left to act
john_lima82 bets 2,040
nikolasradu calls 2,040
*** RIVER *** [4s Ad 2h 6s] 2 of spades (Total Pot: 5,040, 2 Players)
nikolasradu checks
john_lima82 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
john_lima82 shows [As 7d] two pair, Aces and Twos
nikolasradu mucks
john_lima82 wins the pot (5,040) with two pair, Aces and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,040 | Rake 0
Board: [4s Ad 2h 6s 2s]
Seat 1: SBEP (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: nikolasradu (small blind) mucked [Qc 3d] - a pair of Twos
Seat 3: Serg1903 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Freehansi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: safire12 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: 1MACS didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: john_lima82 showed [As 7d] and won (5,040) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 8: SillySayLoR didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: nonIQ didn't bet (folded)

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YEEEEEEeeeeHHHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaaaa finaly broke the spell
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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550805974: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 49 - NL Hold'em - 60/120 Ante 15 - 18:47:18 CET - 2015/05/07 [12:47:18 ET - 2015/05/07]
Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (6,595)
Seat 2: Bocao171 (17,323)
Seat 3: SBEP (7,125)
Seat 4: nemaula (8,483)
Seat 5: e9094 (1,445)
Seat 7: Albert090673 (13,825)
Seat 8: knopikt (3,470)
Seat 9: max_booh (1,615)
xxMENANGANxx antes 15
Bocao171 antes 15
SBEP antes 15
nemaula antes 15
e9094 antes 15
Albert090673 antes 15
knopikt antes 15
max_booh antes 15
SBEP posts the small blind of 60
nemaula posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Kc Jc]
e9094 folds
Albert090673 calls 120
knopikt folds
max_booh folds
xxMENANGANxx folds
Bocao171 calls 120
SBEP calls 60
nemaula checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 2h Qh] (Total Pot: 600, 4 Players)
SBEP bets 120
nemaula calls 120
Albert090673 folds
Bocao171 calls 120
*** TURN *** [7s 2h Qh] Ace of diamonds (Total Pot: 960, 3 Players)
mannvitt sits down
SBEP bets 240
nemaula folds
Bocao171 calls 240
*** RIVER *** [7s 2h Qh Ad] 4 of diamonds (Total Pot: 1,440, 2 Players)
SBEP bets 720
Bocao171 folds
Uncalled bet of 720 returned to SBEP
SBEP mucks
SBEP wins the pot (1,440)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,440 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 2h Qh Ad 4d]
Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Bocao171 (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: SBEP (small blind) collected (1,440), mucked
Seat 4: nemaula (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: e9094 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Albert090673 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: knopikt folded before the Flop
Seat 9: max_booh folded before the Flop Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship

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Full Tilt Poker Game #35550985068: BankrollMob $25 Freeroll (293364002), Table 49 - NL Hold'em - 250/500 Ante 50 - 19:48:06 CET - 2015/05/07 [13:48:06 ET - 2015/05/07]
Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (9,679)
Seat 3: SBEP (4,375)
Seat 4: nivanov045 (2,310), is sitting out
Seat 5: e9094 (10,685), is sitting out
Seat 6: DovisZzZ (2,307), is sitting out
Seat 7: Albert090673 (19,720)
Seat 8: vdelonge (21,021)
Seat 9: emes1957 (3,000)
xxMENANGANxx antes 50
SBEP antes 50
nivanov045 antes 50
e9094 antes 50
DovisZzZ antes 50
Albert090673 antes 50
vdelonge antes 50
emes1957 antes 50
SBEP posts the small blind of 250
nivanov045 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SBEP [Ks Jh]
e9094 folds
DovisZzZ folds
Albert090673 calls 500
vdelonge folds
emes1957 folds
xxMENANGANxx folds
e9094 has returned
SBEP calls 250
nivanov045 checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Kd 5h] (Total Pot: 1,900, 3 Players)
SBEP checks
nivanov045 checks
Albert090673 bets 500
SBEP raises to 1,500
nivanov045 folds
Albert090673 folds
Uncalled bet of 1,000 returned to SBEP
SBEP mucks
SBEP wins the pot (2,900)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,900 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc Kd 5h]
Seat 1: xxMENANGANxx (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: SBEP (small blind) collected (2,900), mucked
Seat 4: nivanov045 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: e9094 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: DovisZzZ folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Albert090673 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: vdelonge folded before the Flop
Seat 9: emes1957 folded before the Flop

Edited by SBEP (07 May 2015 @ 17:49 GMT)


     
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Posted by SBEP:
Ever since i have been playing on fulltillt, i have noticed something that's been happening to me over and over and over and over and over again, I HAVE NEVER, NEVER, NEEEEVVVEEERRRR won a hand with KJ, has any1 else have that problem with KJ, or has any1 else have a hand that no matter what the circumstance u can never win with it ?
I hate KJ on fulltillt, Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! pokerstars, bring it onnn Big Smile


pokerstar in the poker school they teach that kj is really a problem the player think this with a good hand but not just a mistake, recommend careful with that hand Blink

     
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