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Looks like a bit off a donk off to me, sorry, but im with padod on this, you know he is loose, so has a wider range, possable str8 flush draw, so he could have been very strong on a flop like that, should have had him pre-flop(by that i mean he should have folded,not bet more, bad call), the turn bet was horrid against a LAG player, better luck next time, im sure he got added to the hit list (IMO, and that dont count for much )
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Posted by B1gfoot: Looks like a bit off a donk off to me, sorry, but im with padod on this, you know he is loose, so has a wider range, possable str8 flush draw, so he could have been very strong on a flop like that, should have had him pre-flop(by that i mean he should have folded,not bet more, bad call), the turn bet was horrid against a LAG player, better luck next time, im sure he got added to the hit list (IMO, and that dont count for much )
What turn bet? The money went in preflop and at the flop. Against such a loose player TT is a monster and should be played strongly. Problem can be the size of the preflop raise. With his half stack he will put the money in, no matter what.
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Yer sorry ment the bet on the flop, I just think it should have been taken pr-flop, 10s are chit after a flop (unless they hit IMO, but against LAG hmm, yer ok its fair to say its a push hand but i dont think its a good move on that flop against the LAG) No doubt M3 was the better play there and did get donked, its always hard to judge a player from 1 hand, m3 would have some notes id guess, I dont think it was worth the all in, call all yes bet it no. BTW very bad call, im sure M3 will get the money back fairly quick.
Yes he is a donkey but for this reason extremely dangerous.. I am a donkey too so I had not bet all in after flop ( J shown on the table ) nor I had raised that way in that position ( small blind )... But, repeat, I am a donkey
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I think you played that hand well before flop. A big raise to scare the donkeys of. After that flop your hand isnt very much worth considering the J that is out there. Personally i would have made a smaller bet to see where my hand stands. Then i can get away from that hand cheeper. But thats just me. You made your play and the donkey calls. There i would say that you win about 75 % of the times. Just unlucky If you would have won i bet you wouldnt complain
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Posted by padod: you played those tens badly aswell
Extremely lame comment without an argument. Amazing how you can think 3bet TT OOP is bad even when you now villain stats and I even show you the donk calls with 2 unders. Is it really that bad getting in with TT vs rag? LOL perhaps it was you
Hand was not put up for analyze but for a quick laugh perhaps wrong forum.
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i got poker tracker and HUD and as for my arguement of it being bad you pushed your tens when there was a J on the flop with no information on the villian he called a 3 bet preflop so there was no way you put him on somthing so weak.
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Pokerstove has nothing to do with PT you should get it and perhaps you could learn a thing or 2 about hand ranges and equity(no offence ment but it's a really good program).
It was a "push" and smile situation all the way to the bank I think you forgot villain stats he played 81% regardless of raise/reraise.
So I put in 81% in pokerstove player 1(villain) and I put in TT in player 2(Mobster) and I put in 67J on board and calculate. Result: 68,8% equity for me so if I could I would do this all day long with a big smile on my face.
btw. "push and pray".....naah just a standard c/value-bet, it would have been a bit more tricky if he had a decent stack but here it's a no brainer unless you don't like 68,8% equity
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LOL, missed the Villain is playing 81/21/3 and Mobster 22/20/4 Thats not LAG thats lets see how fast i can lose my money, good you can see the funny side, think id be on the hunt for revenge, hope you get it.
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Posted by M3turbo: Pokerstove has nothing to do with PT you should get it and perhaps you could learn a thing or 2 about hand ranges and equity(no offence ment but it's a really good program).
It was a "push" and smile situation all the way to the bank I think you forgot villain stats he played 81% regardless of raise/reraise.
So I put in 81% in pokerstove player 1(villain) and I put in TT in player 2(Mobster) and I put in 67J on board and calculate. Result: 68,8% equity for me so if I could I would do this all day long with a big smile on my face.
btw. "push and pray".....naah just a standard c/value-bet, it would have been a bit more tricky if he had a decent stack but here it's a no brainer unless you don't like 68,8% equity
loooooool i play NL 2500 please i no more about equity ranged and +ev more than anyone on this site and im a regular poster on 2+2 stop trying to insult me because it doesnt work and you didnt post the villians stats until today so how would i know?
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First of all reread original post I sure posted villain stats from the start. Though I forgot to mention that villain never folded so his vpip was also call raise/3bet stat. Im sorry to say that it was you who insulted me with a lame statement without argumentation. I really doubt your skills now that you speak of how good you are but are avoiding the topic suddenly.
To spice up the insults now that you wont talk about the topic any more but how good and high you play I actually believe you playing NL2500 as a loser
