Under Irish law, there is no legal guarantee that lucky gamblers will be paid their winnings, according to a judge in the Circuit Civil Court. Judge Francis Comerford made the verdict in a lawsuit brought about by the complainant, Sayed Mirwais, against Automatic Amusements Ltd which operates as D1 Casino as well as against casino director Michael Donnelly.
Sayed Mirwais, age 36, resident of St. [...] Read more » Ireland casino can choose not to pay this man's €11,000 roulette win, and it's legal
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as if we needed another reason for not going to a casino... yeah this is crap, but you have to understand that such situations as malfunction do happen and it's a normal practise to void all winnings in such scenario i think. you probably feel that casino found another way to screw you, but they didn't, they already have more than enough ways for fcuking you inside out.
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Go figure this one again. if the law cant protect you from getting the winnings, then what is the point playing after all. So that you can "gamble" later on taking on what is yours or not? Thats a double gamble here. Are they trying to get your money?
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I think tht casino are always looking for ways to not pay winners their money, they just hate when people win, this is the truth, i saw many times in casino when some player wins bigger money all the croupiers are looking at him as he is a criminal and stole their money
I hate such stories .... when "When I lose money, the device was OK, and the casino was glad to accept it, but when I won, they wanted to explore." ... and this is very common ... I myself faced a similar situation, but a little different - I was paid a prize but insistently demanded some of this money ... unsuccessfully))))
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Its crazy that this casino can get away without paying this guy and it is all legal. If he had lost, they definitely would not have given his money back and it all leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Unbelievable and this can happen in the middle of Europe... This was the best reason to play not in casinos in Ireland and i hope this Casini goes bankrupt verry fast. Which player will play there after this news? I think only the manic gambler.
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well lets not go piling sh1t on the casino shall we, lets give the poor casino a break (wow what a piece of crap i am writing, cannot believe myself), still we have to keep our brains functioning and understand that this is not table games, this is slots, and slot is just a machine which goes to sh1t mode at some point just like any other machinery, so when this happens casino should have a right to not pay out the winnings, of course it should compensate the losses to those who played on the machine previously that day too.
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I really hope that this casino will be closed or that they will go bankrupt and if country and politic cant do anything to them or they dont want to make law that will procetect players,then players must punish them and they must stop playing there!
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The complications heaped upon legislation by the development of technology. What a crazy world we live in when people can avoid expense by claiming th machine was faulty. Would it work the other way for example if I claimed that I had lost because the machine was faulty and I should have won $xxxx.xx? .
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Yea pajal is right about it. When only losing money the machines work as they shoud When you win, there is something wrong with them of course. Cause this wasnt supposed to happen Something went wrong with all that programming
Posted by Mober: Yea pajal is right about it. When only losing money the machines work as they shoud When you win, there is something wrong with them of course. Cause this wasnt supposed to happen Something went wrong with all that programming
I wonder if I lose and start accusing the casino of having broken software and demanding money back, what will the reaction of casino employees be? Will they immediately beat me or do it in the parking lot?
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so guys just tell me this one thing.. why should anyone play in the casino? just for losing money? if so there are many ways to spend one's money which are both thrillful and noble
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Posted by vaskarch23: so guys just tell me this one thing.. why should anyone play in the casino? just for losing money?
i have not read entirely the story, but yea.. going into a casino means losing money for fun. anything you play is adjusted to make you lose - simple lol. if your winner, well, then be happy cause the probality is nearly the same as being hit by a meteor.
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seems to be that in this casino you are in lost on every way,no matter when you are losing money or you winning!but to stay that machine dont work properly its not normal!somebody give them licence and this should be stoped or people just could stop to play in this casino!
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well it's a good question from our fellow mobbit coming from the wonderful lands of Bangladesh, why on earth would someone go to a casino apart from losing money? well i personally visit our local casino on fridays, since this is the day when one particular casino is offering free drinks (not just soft sh1t, but real alcohol) to its players... you can drink all you can sustain... of course you lose all the money at the tables, but i bring just 10 euros max and basically get lots of super cheap vodka for this tenner
I went to the casino primarily to have fun .. and of course if I won it it was a holiday for me .... but the situation when I won and I was told that it was a mistake I did not have .... but after in My country has closed all casinos this problem and will not arise)))
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I dont think people play in casino to lose money vascarch23, everyone who go there want to win, yes chance are not too good, but people play in lotteries and there is even less chance to win, so casino is better in this situation, some people just don't know any other way of earning bug money, so they dream of winning millions in casino's or lotteries
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Casinos can come up with any reason (legitimate or not) not to compensate their customers. I don't have the slightest knowledge of Irish gambling laws. I wonder if the issues here are isolated to this specific establishment in Ireland.
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well tony whatever from Japan (flashfaust's relative huh..) when casinos do up up with reasons to not compensate their customers, they are actually like 99% are legitimate, and the remaining 1% is due to the fact that their lawyers messed up somewhere and will have their balls snapped off for this reason, and the case will be won anyway with the second attempt with the help of lawyers who still have their balls in place.
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Posted by pochui: well tony whatever from Japan (flashfaust's relative huh..) when casinos do up up with reasons to not compensate their customers, they are actually like 99% are legitimate, and the remaining 1% is due to the fact that their lawyers messed up somewhere and will have their balls snapped off for this reason, and the case will be won anyway with the second attempt with the help of lawyers who still have their balls in place.
Thank you very much for reinforcing my point. Not all cases are ethically justifiable. 99%? Where did you get that number? Can you list 1,000 or more similar cases in Ireland?
And as to flashfaust, yeah, I haven't seen him for a long time on this forum. Maybe he moved to some remote country whose cost of living is relatively cheap. Wishing him the best for his future.
Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (03 April 2017 @ 02:12 GMT)
