Joined: Nov '14
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https://www.boomplayer.com/24175612_7311A6F9BA I mean one time, ONE DAMN TIME TO WIN WITH AA ALL IN ON PS Fakcing rigged place, only reason why i started to play there again, is coz i got some money from a friend who made it big in a tournament so he wanted to spread the luck, and that fakcing place is still fakcing rigged as i left it, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im gonna blow away this money now, and fakcing uninstall everything from that fakcing site.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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Really bad luck there. But i happens from time to time. In your case more than it should. And i doubt that the money being a gift would make the loss more easy to get. I hope you didnt blew the rest of it due to tilt and that you will manage to cash out.
Joined: Feb '13
Location: Canada
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So sick bro! it happened to me a couple times with premium hands today and it never gets easier i can tell you that. Alot of keyboards get thrown or smashed cause of Aces getting cracked, especially in that manner.
You got in good either way the chips were going into the middle.
Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
Age: 34 (M)
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that thing happend to me evryday like 10 times... it happends... what i am pissed most at stars, and stoped playing there is that there are days when you hold decent amount of time... you hold like you should, but there are days no matter with what you go all in you will lose... and thats what pisses me off... because I played there high variance poker (spin and go) and when that days come... I am loosing a sht ton of money... and that all happend in row... shove with top set... dont worry he will hit runner runner str8, shove with full house... dont worry... he will hit str8 flush... and when that days come... i remember going all in like 10 times in row, and evry single time i was ahed like 90% or even more... and they are hitting 1 out,2outs and 3 outs like crezy... like there is impossible to win... that same thing is going on on acr... there are some thays when no matter what your hand will not hold... on party there is different, there is also happening suckouts but not like on ps or acr 10 times in row and even more, but it happend from time to time, and that is no biggi... I just had hand when I have JJ on J88 board and guy shoved with K8 on turn, and river gived him 8... and i was not pissed because thats only 1 hand for all day that they hit 1 outer... it was couple of 2 outers and 3 outers, but not all day and in insaine row like on ps or acr...now imagine you are grinding 7$ spins on stars and that s**t happend and you went down like 700$... dont tell me that is tilt or that I played different, because I am making evry single day profit on those for 10 days in row like minimum 30$ per day, and than one day single hand cannot hold... that happend to me several times on stars... thats why I stoped playing there... it seems party has the best software when it comes to suckouts... dont get me wrong... it happend on party also... and it knows on party to get several times in row... but than it stops... its realy realistic... when they hit several time, but not like on pokerstars that is impossible to win single hand...
Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
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Irish bro, this shyte is unfakcing believable, Mober knows, coz i have already posted a lot on this shyte b4, every time i get my chips in good, everytime the weaker hand wins, AK vs AJ, Jack wins, AQvs A3 the 3 wins, TT vs 22 out comes the 2 on the flop, and in the case of AA, i already posted about this, ever since i noticed i been losing with aces, i wanted to know if the math for AA is right, that says 83% of the time AA vs anything should win, guess what bud, 8 out of 11 times i lost with AA allin preflop against one player, so you tell me hows that possible but this shyte happens only on PS, other softwares are ok.
Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
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your math isnt right... in this case its like somewhere like that 83% against QQ... but against suited connecters its less than 83% like 70% or so... it all depend what you are against... AAvs pocket pair have most equity...but hands like suited conneters has less... if you tought in general 83% it also isnt true... because it depend of how many times you were against pp and how many times you are against other cards...
------------ also its different when you are all in with AhAs vs QhQs than AhAs vs QdQc because in that case he could hit flush also...
Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
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Nikola brale, lets agree that AA vs anything else heads up allin preflop is always the big dog, it differs right from situation to situation, but IN ALLLLLLLL CASES AA ARE IN ADVANTAGE, but once again, on PS that aint the case, like u said in the previous post, when u put in a lot of volume and saw that weaker hands most of the times, rather then less, wins, so how do u explain that??? While on the other hand, look how PS babysits its star players, and tell me if this has happened to you https://www.boomplayer.com/19743213_87A622D70A
Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
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AA is big dog against anything... and you should win like evry 2 out of 3 times... but remember that you will lose in evry third hand... sometimes you may lose with AA two times in row, and than win 5 times in row... problem is you dont remember when you win with AA as much as you remember when you lose with AA... but Ill have to agree that something is wrong with ps... like I said there are days when simply any of your all ins wouldnt hold...also whn you are saiying other hands... its very different when you lose AKvsAJ than AK vs QJ... in AKvsAJ you are huge dog, but in AKvsQJ you are not so much...so dont count hands like AKvsQJ or even A7vsKQ... because on that hands you are ahead but not that much, and you should lose there a decent amount of times...
Joined: Nov '14
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But thats why i said, once i noticed i started losing a lot with AA allin pre, i started to count how many times i would win/lose, and in my case i lost 8 out of 11 times i went with AA allin preflop vs 1 other player, just so u cant say now, u remember more the bad beats then the times u won
Joined: Oct '14
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interesting thing... i watched i think alec torelli, and I think maybe even doug polk made vid about AA in tournaments... because AA in tournaments isnt same thing like AA in cash games... because chips in tournament have a lot of less value than chips on cash game... so with that logic in tournament you could see logic about folding AA preflop... because in tournaments chips that you win are far less value than chips you lose... I dont know if you understand me... but there is a video explaining all of this... so there is some logic in tournament to fold AA preflop... in cash game it would be insaine...
------------ Ill try to explain to you... for example you have 1000$ and go to play cash game... your 1 chip is worth exactly 1$ (if you take out the rake) and in tournaments when you buy in like lets say 1000$ and you have 1000 chips... your 1 chip isnt 1$ its far far less... because first place prize isnt all the money, but like 10% of all money or in this case chips even sometimes less than 10% so actualy your 1 chip in tournament is 10c instead of 1$ and if you look at that way chips that you loose cost more than the chips you gain... also I think value of chips change in stages of tournament... like isnt same value of chip in begining and near final table.... so you should avoid risking your chips, even if you are 70% favorite...there is a lot on that subject...
Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
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Brale razumem te, i know bout ICM, and why i should fold AA if i have more then 2 or 3 shoves b4 me in a tournament, and ofcourse chips in tournaments are more valuable then chips in cash games, coz in cash u can rebuy as much as u have money to do so, where in tournament once the rebuy period is over, thats it, the chips u have are the ones u got, i am well aware of all that, the thing i am trying to tell you, since u play cash games a lot more then i do, see after the hand if u can spot something that almost all the time happens when u play a big pot, whether u win or lose the pot, ull find out the PS is dealing u both guys cards so u would call on all streets, just so u will make the pot bigger and thus the rake that PS is going to make from that pot, i garanteeeeeeee you, its 100% of the time that happens, and in tournaments how is PS generating rake, with rebuys and addons so u see, ITS IN THEIR INTREST THEY WOULD DO THINGS LIKE THAT TO GENERATE RAKE brate
Joined: Dec '12
Location: New Zealand
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 504
I notice, mainly on stars since I play at that site the most that one or two days a week I can literally win any hand before the bubble and crack aces with shitty cards. but then when in the money boom its a reversal. and then today already I know its not my day since cards are not hitting and big pocket pairs are being done by little pocket pairs hitting a set on the flop after we get it all in pre flop.
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Its always been fascinating just how many times Aces have been cracked over the years. I never know how to play Aces (but i wouldnt mind having them every hand!!) and i think that going all-in is not a bad way
Joined: Mar '14
Location: Japan
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SBEP, your frustration is absolutely warranted. I suppose you are fully aware that it is the nature of the game and inevitable. Once all the chips go in the middle there is nothing you can do. Good luck next time.
Nothing surprising in this distribution I did not see .... these distributions happen to me several times a week and sometimes I win and sometimes I lose ..... poker is a mysterious game and anything can happen in it so I do not see it In this distribution there is nothing surprising and extraordinary
Joined: Mar '16
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
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I did not play poker at PS for a few months, I was bored and then I got the idea to replace the stars coin for tournament ticket I took a $ 1.1 tournament ticket I was disappointed again there is no reality in poker stars I think I will never make a deposit with them anymore I did not get any good card
but this shyte happens only on PS, other softwares are ok.
guess you pissed him up... Ill try to fix that up
