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You must raise every single hand preflop for a predetermined period (about two hours) and "try" to break even. Of course, if you are a regular $15-$30 player, you don't want to blow that much money on the drill, so I would recommend playing $2-$4 or $3-$6. The fact is, you are probably going to lose, but you are paying for a lesson.
Now, I don't recommend that you try your own version of party day. You'd be a lot better off by just taking some time off. Playing that way is very difficult, as you're faced with many more decisions than you normally are, which can lead to far too many mistakes. It's a dangerous tool that can go either way. For a player with some real talent, it can be an epiphany, while for others, it could be very discouraging.
I don't think I'll try it but it would be fun playing more hands.
" if you are a regular $15-$30 player", I can't believe the stakes at casinos, lowest stakes at Fallsview casino is $2-$5..
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that is just plain stupid 4 ppl like us raising every hand preflop... dont forget negreanu is like a poker god n also he has the money 2 do it... so unless u have either of the 2 i would recommend not 2 try it
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Maybe a bit to extreme. Idea behind is to improve post flop play. And if you are forced to play every hand you will face a lot of tough decisions. But if you raise every hand you soon will get 3bet to death.
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yeah the guys making to much money snorting to much coke and is starting to lose it.whats a few grand,only a blind for him so dont matter.starting to lose respect for the man.the reason,he is a d**k.
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Well i think that swings up and down have always been a there'll always be. It's not a matter of how many hands you raise. The lesson Daniel wants you to learn is to try and read your opponents mind instead of playing mechanically and easy to forecast
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Yes I think the point has been missed, its a lesson, i might go do it on .01/.02, thats his 100/200 session lol, knolage is a great wealth that can come at a cheap price. Lets see how fast ppl move table....
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i dont get it. what kind of a lession is it ? i did it on freeroll tournys once tho. and there were always people reraising me. so i got pretty fast knocked out of tourny. maybe that was my lession
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Its teaching you to play the player, not just the cards, i think your ment to do it with your own cards coverd (playing blind) you shoud have a little money aside to do things like this, but i forget %, just use what you can comfterbly afford to lose.
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i get the princable behind it, but i just dont get point, if you were playing the same people over and over again maybe, but your not, every players different so good luck to whoever wants to throw their money away on this stupid exercise. its just another way of making a very simple game complicated if you ask me. if you do try this in my opinon it will only be of benifet to higher level players where everyones playing naturally, for lower level players its no use at all as peoples moods can dramaticly affect the way they play and a lot of lower level players really just dont give a f**k if they lose, so trying to read them consistantly is pointless.
Edited by intentcity4 (07 November 2008 @ 23:26 GMT)
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I totaly agree with the prevous post. this sounds more like a agreement between daniel negreanu and pokerstars for rake increase "guys raise every hand and reraise in preflop"...ok bit sarcasm, but this is definatly no tip for beginners in my opinion. btw prevous post, can someone tell me please how to "quote" ?? for some reason it doenst work to me, or i just cant figure out how !?
Main thing the lesson helps is hand reading ability. And I guess if it works out than your opponents get scared to play hands with you and don't bluff and pay you off when you have it.
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Exactly,opponent reading and building up a reputation are the most important things in poker. Doing it online it's harder than live but it's the secret for a successful career
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I had a bash at this today playing .01/.02 and came out $1.50 up after a hour but gave up whilst I was ahead. It is fun but, reckless at the same time. I wouldn't try it at my normal level and wouldn't suggest anyone else does either.
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If I were to try this. Than I would play 6max and raise every reasonable hand.And I don't think Daniel means every hand.
Party day was loads of fun. For the eight-hour session on party day, I’d throw caution to the wind and raise with about every hand that was remotely playable. Obviously, this probably wasn’t all that smart, but the benefits I received from party day may have been well worth it. Those days taught me a lot about table image and controlling a game. As the “maniac” in the game, I had more than a few people talking to themselves while all of a sudden calling three bets with J 3!.
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Depends on what your goal is, if you want to make the maximum amount of money safely, then don't do it. If your goal on the other hand is to be the best poker player you can be it can be a very good lesson for several reasons, one as people have said you have to improve your reading ability as well as your post flop play. Plus you learn how to switch gears, if you know how to play it safe with a tight range as well as just throwing stuff out there you will greatly improve your game in the long run, since you will get calls as he says with stuff like J3 possibly even after you've gone to playing nuts. I do thinkl it is meant for live poker though, when reading is easier.