Unfold Hold'em is the newest poker game released by PokerStars, allowing players to ante up for a side "Unfold pot" and then get back into the game right after seeing the flop. This poker variant is actually geared more towards the rec (recreational) players. As for the reg (regular) players, they find that it's not a good game at all and criticize PokerStars for continuing to release games that n[...] Read more » "Don't play new games if you don't like them" - Daniel Negreanu on PokerStars New Poker Variant Unfold Hold'em
This is about Amaya overall influence and the rake they make. Negreanu is not playing by the same rake rules you or me playing since his level of play/money volume gives him plenty benefit - benefits which companies does not give out anymore to hobby players like us...
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Daniel's right on the money here. Stick to what you're decent/good at a learn that game before ever thinking of moving on unless you're already. Don't like the games don't play pretty simple.
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Yes some players not happy with more rake to pay to ppay on pokerstars or full tilt poker, but again it is same liie daniel negreanu say, if tou not like game not play, and if you not like ppker room to make bigger rake you can go and play other room
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No matter how many games are going to appear in the future, some will be always stuck on what they know to play best, and have the most earnings. Poker Star try with those new way of playing, but has eliminated all the good tournaments and freerolls that there were... with the interest of creating new forms of game they make in some of them lose the essence of what is Poker
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Pokerstars try to recover customers, which they lost in recent years, because they had somechanges uninspired. More than that, they had some marketing ideas... pretty embarrassings. If he does not start offering as it was in the past in good times they will fall even more. If you do not offer good things, the clients leave and pokerstars loses.
Its good that they are offering the 100K freerolls with scoop tickets up for grabs and some small $200 freerolls for Stars to keep and attract new customers they need to offer more weekday freerolls like with the past privilege tournaments.
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If they really want to recover the old customer (and make new) they have to put money on our pockets (with some freerroll with good prizes) or make us happy with a lot of freerolls with cheap prizes of a big variant kind of poker games. But these trying is not one of them choices. They seem ovnis trying to atract humans
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yeah,hi is right when say that you dont have to play new type of games if you dont like them,but with this kind of new poker games,new generation will play more of them and will new only for them!this maybe will ruine old texas holdem!just hope that this will not happen in near future!
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Pokerstars can offer freerolls, but i lost my trust in them. I can not accept playing in a poker room that has not given me a chance to make money. The biggest poker room in which i lost enough time for nothing. It is said that fish earning money there in games with small amounts but me ( a fish ) i did not earn anything other than $ 260 the highest prize. This money does not mean anything. I think they will lose after these tournaments because many players have gone to other rooms like Party or 888. I prefer not to play here, except very rarely.
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Every player can play whatever game they like. No one is forcing them to play a specific game, if they dont want too. Now when it comes to money, and you play in order to win money, and im talking not being a recreational player, since someone can win money from poker but that doesnt mean he s a professional, you are going to play the game you are good at, winning the most, even if you dont like the variation or format
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Yes dule-vu you could have some reason about future.. When I meeted the poker game, there was in the western film. And there, all played only...5 cards! Anybody remember the 5 cards poker? Currently we only speak (and play) Texas Holdem, so is probabily that those new games would be the only popular games between the future players!
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It seems to me that Daniel Negreanu is absolutely right, maybe the variants that are coming out could be played once to see what they are, if you do not like them, you do not play it again, it is something very logical, it is not to enter into discussions, it is my point of view.
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He is affiliated with poker stars, one way or another. So if he even wanted to say something more he couldnt. He said though the most obvious and simple thing about the new game. Do you really need an advice from someone, for this case?
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I don´t want to try this game. I misstrust of this Poker Stars adventure. Why they don´t put some freerolls for promotions the new mode of play? They don´t be confident with this, They don´t trust that this game could be atractive to all the players, so they are trying to get a profit with the curiosity...don´t you think it?
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Daniel Negreanu is under contract with pokerstars but he can tell his own opinions. No one forces you to play different types of games and more than that what else can be? If he represents Pokerstars and Stars Group can also say other things in favor of the players, not only in favor for this company who pays him an amount of money to be an ambassador.
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This is very simple and yet very good advice from the big man himself. I’m sure he is as fed up as the rest of us with people moaning about different things that they don’t like. Stop the moaning and stop playing, is what I say. If you don’t like something, generally you don’t do it. So why, just because a huge poker operator starts a new fad, do people think they HAVE to play it! Good on ya Daniel.
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Almost all of we claimed about these new game or way of playing but, anybody had playing it? Anybody can to say what about it? All of us know that is a variance of the traditional Texas Holdem and it can disrupt a line of game and players of the last thirty or forty years but, how it is? No matter what are the company intention, is good to play it?
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If you understand it is good but unfortunately you are not lucky, if you do not play properly. It's not a bad game, but i do not know if pokerstars wants to make some freeroll games to advertise much better this game. Should do this if stars group want to be more successful with this unfold hold'em.
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I have watched a couple of videos in youtube about the unfold game, and i can definitely say that i dont like it Pretty much a gamble since you dont get to play at all, till the hand is finished, waiting to get the best combo from any other players that got into the unfold hand...
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Each player can play or not. I am not curious to play this game in future. I think poker hold'em texas is enough for me. Every new game that will be introduced by pokerstars, will not succeed if there is not one interesting and enjoyable. This is the situation: if you like this game, you play, if you hate this game you are not playing.
