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Posted by erru9107: ... on the higher stakes, that could make me some money.
That may be the matter, the level of the stakes. A month ago, I need to get points in a page of poker to take some good articles about SnG. The only site where I had a tracked account is Coral Poker, where I had only $ 4 and I didn´t want to deposit. So I played 100 DoNs of $ 0,10/0,20, I won 63 of then...but I lost $1 There are my numbers!
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Well, it's impossible to say why since you've mixed the stakes. Either you lost more of the 0.20 games or the rake is brutal. I play the $1.10 games at PartyPoker and $0.08 of that buy-in is rake, which is the highest for any stake at that site. It represents about 7.3% rake and break-even is just 53.93% ITM. It's even lower the higher you go in stakes.
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I think I made a simple spreadsheet last year. It was relatively easy for me to make a steady profit playing Double or Nothing (up to $5.50 buy-in) at partypoker. I wish I could play at least 30 games per day, but that would be insanely boring. My partypoker nickname is "unprecedented," by the way.
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There is not much time and you will come to the same opinion as me, my friend. These games are not for profit, but they are great to learn a strategy, which you can use in MTT tournaments. There are some poker rooms where you can have more profit with Sit N Go games but not in I Poker Network. I think you know them.
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Yes, I think like you about the SnGs CALICUL, as you know. And Tony_MON7ANA & erru9107, you have to know (I think that Tony_MON7ANA already know it) that I´m a little fish in a little fishbowl -the micro stakes-, so there we are punished by our condition. The rake of this limits are about 15 % ($ 0,17 + $ 0,03 for the SnG 9max $0,20)
------------ ...and 20% in $ 0,10 SnGs ($0,08 + $ 0,02), that´s what I said!
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Almost every day i get a 10 cents ticket to wheel of fortune. The players here are not experienced, but i like to play satellites with these tickets. In the last time there were not many players and i played few sit and go. It's nice, because it reminds me by the time when i played these games in every day. Unfortunately, the time is precious to create a stack with these games. Maybe i will play of 40 cents to see if i can to make a profit.
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Yes CALICUL, good for it! I play currently this level of buy-in. In full ring (9/10 players) you could win $ 1,75 for each 1º place in 888poker. They charge you 12,5 % of rake ($ 0,05), that is better than the 20 % of a fee that they charged on the $ 0,10 SnGs ($ 0,02). Come here and we may meet in the tables! But nevertheless, if you need to make points with a micro bankroll you will prefer the big fee/points!
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I preferred to make points for the level because i wanted level 60 in 2018 and i want level 80 in the first 3 months of 2019. I do not play a lot of cash to get up quickly and with the satellites the level grows harder. With Sit And Go same. My problem now is that: I have my work and i will play a little for a period. One thing i know for sure: I do not want to play with you because is bad to fight with a friend. I prefer to win the money of other people, not money of my friends.
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We will see it, who knows...perhaps you might be in a tough situation. Beware of the fishes with teeth! And don´t worry about making points in 888poker, you only need to spend money there and the points arrive. If you look for the way to make points fast, you have to think about what is better. As I told, some games give to you many points because you are paying a lot of rake!
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I saw in the Sit And Go games that 888poker offers double points when i play but in satellites not. They have a different calculation formula. Probably this thing is to attract players because these games are not very successful. They know good this thing and it's good for them.
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It`s simple my friend, 888poker gives points to you when they keep a fee of the buy-in. When you see: buy-in $ 1 + $ 0,10, these $ 0,10 is the fee that 888 keep to they. For each cent that the room keeps, they give you one point. So, much money you give them much points they give to you. instead of returning part of the rake they give us little dots
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That's what it is, but i'm referring to the fact that: when play a Sit And Go with 10 cents, i won 2 points, but when i play a satelllit with 10 cents, i received only 1 point. This is a 100% percents with minus or plus. They have a different calculation system. I do not know why but is the truth. This thing does not bother me because the tickets of 10 cents, i get them almost in every day, because is gifts offered by 888poker.
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My man, you have to see the formula of the buy-in. When you see $ 0,09+$0,01 as a tournament buy-in of $0,10, they are saying that the fee in this tourney is $0,01, and only $ 0.09 goes to the players' prizes. So they give to you points only for their fee. When I get some ticket to a tourney i don´t get any points for it. You are lucky!
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I get points yes. It's probably like a compensation because many countries have bigger prizes at wheel of fortune and my country not. 10 cent tickets mean nothing. I won a lot of such tickets and i did not win anything with them. The conspiracy is real my friend. I play these tickets just to not expire.
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But you become in a specialist of satellite tournament thanks to that ticket, isn´t it? So it makes something for you In NetBet you have to play the three or four daily freerolls and try to make some bankroll to play the $ 0,50/$ 1 tournaments that is the only way to make some bucks. Here in 888poker you have many options more!
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I do not want to play freerolls in NetBet to accumulate money for little games. I could make one deposit of 50 dolllars or two of 25. That's not the problem. Their games are the problem. Need some good satellites. With 888poker i want to play satellites and to win some tickets. Then i would like to earn money in more tournaments to play more cash games. If they do not let me to earn money, then i will not play cash. In this way i will lose to do a nice wager and 888poker will lose their cash game commission and is bad for both.
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You are doing the order of the kind of games/bankroll. The people play cash to make some money to buy the tickets to tournaments. The logic is that cash have less variance than tourney, so they can make some bankroll, and then they goes to the tournament to try to make big money. But if you like in this way...go for it!
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Yes, i like that because i do not like to deposit more money. In cash games you can have bad periods and to lose. I prefer my style and in that way i do not lose money if you understand what i'm saying... I play satellites, then tournaments and if i earn some money, after that i play cash. If i do not earn money in tournaments, i do not play cash... Is simple my friend. No money in tournaments - no cash.
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But I´m confused... Do you like more cash than tournaments? You only play tourney to make some bucks to play cash? Awesome, I thought that the matter was inverse. So you play too many tourney thinking in can play cash, what a shame! So you really need a strategy to play only the game that you like!
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I like the tournaments the most but if 888 does not let me to make some money, i can not play cash. I want to play cash as a sign of respect. I earn money, i play cash and 888 win money from the rake of cash games. I do not earn money in tournaments, then 888 does not earn money because i do not play cash. If they do not respect me, then my respect for they does not exist. Did you understand now?
There are my numbers!
