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Sorry about the pics but Action Pokers hand history doesn't export so.. with a pre flop limp I could only put this guy on ace rag pre, after the flop qj at best. I knew I was ahead tried a little trap and got immensely sucked out on.
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What the hell are you doing? Bet more on the flop. $3 in a pot of ~ $8 is not enough. If called, bet the turn. You invited desaster with your smallish bet on the flop.
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Agreed, this is a gamble play of you, too many draws out there to slow play your KK, i would bet at least 3/4 the pot on both the flop and turn, and that would have saved the hand for you.
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Every time when i held AA or KK and when i see flush and str8 draw possibility i make pot size bet or even bigger and i usually take the pot. Ive lost too much money by trapping people. Its better to take pot immy, no matter how big it is then lost money against flush or str8 on river.
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Wow guys, the title of the thread was "How Not To Play Pocket Kings?" not "OMG WHY DID I LOSE THIS"
I know I played them bad, real bad in fact, although i think a lot more is to be said about the play of the other player - pretty serious suck out IMO. It's OK though I've taken that guys stack off him on more than one occasion so I'm not that bothered about the beat(I'd win maybe 9/10), or the money, just thought I'd share it for your viewing pleasure.
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Posted by jkrantz: PS, I am unaware with this site, did that player buy in more chips to his stack during the hand?
This didn't click before until I read the HH again. WTF surely this isn't allowed?!?!
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Thanks for your post Joe, yes definately a lesson in" how not to play Pocket Kings" but yes totally agree about the suck out and the play of the other player! "OMG WHY DID I LOSE THIS" LOL
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Posted by JoeJeavons: I know I played them bad, real bad in fact, although i think a lot more is to be said about the play of the other player - pretty serious suck out IMO.
Don't think he played it that bad. Preflop he has the odds to setmine, your low bet on the flop can mean that you have missed with AK or AJ type of hands. And after the turn he has an oesd to his pair. This is a very good board for pocket 5s.
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Damn, I hate pocket kings... PokerTracker reports that I've won just a little less than 50% of the time with pocket kings (actually I didn't went to showdown in many occasions, because I was pretty sure I was beat). And I almost never limp with cowboys. Actually I almost never limp with anything. Call me Mr. Raise.
Oh, also, pocket aces are letting me down these days... Being cracked most of the time, even to pocket rags like 22.
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This really sucks! But I would raise more with pocket kings on the flop, because there was a flush draw. And when the turn came, you could see that it may not helped him, so in that case you should raise a big amount, I think. But at the end that straight was a cold shower, I think. Calling with 55...that guy was an idiot!
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I would never of had him on pocket 5's even after my poor bet on the flop. Please bare in mind that none of you were at the table which makes it easy to make criticisms. This guy is a poor player, many times he called large bets with J10 and above, pushing with Arag etc - I know if I pushed after the flop he would've called anyway so I would've been fked no matter what.
Anyway, I just caught runner runner nut flush against AA so I should complain really LOL
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everytime i play pkt Ks 9 times out of 10 an ace will appear on the flop, which isnt great. i still think id rather having a chance to win a big pot then settling for a small one, even if you do risk getting caught out, cards like that dont come around that often.
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Posted by intentcity4: everytime i play pkt Ks 9 times out of 10 an ace will appear on the flop, which isnt great. i still think id rather having a chance to win a big pot then settling for a small one, even if you do risk getting caught out, cards like that dont come around that often.
Wrong hand to do this with. Such a big pocket pair will win you a decent pot or lose you a big one. You can't expect to be good with just one pair if the chips fly in on turn and river. So you will not win a huge pot with them, if you are not playing a total moron or you are hitting your set or better.
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Posted by intentcity4: you have as much chance of hitting something as anyone else. and if you do hit its often payday.
Nope. With a pocket pair you only have 2 cards that really help. (Not counting some weird straight or flush boards).Pocket kings rarely need help. But if they do, you are in real trouble.
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i really dont raise that much with large pkt As, but on the same token i dont mind folding them if i smell a rat, if you raise to much and take the pot what have you won ? a blind, with a min raise you"ll get some action and if the flop looks s**t (flush,str8, pair) you can fold, what have you lost really, hardly anything, and you gave your self a chance at a big pot, with pkt Ks ill raise 3 times the big blind (give or take) just so if an ace comes on the flop i can represent it, i know im mathematicly wrong but it works for me, but i do change my game a lot to keep people guessing.
