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Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 34 (M)
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Hi guys,
I've been playing around with some bonus spins and the wagering requirements on free money make it almost impossible to actually clear anything. This got me thinking about the Casino No Deposit Bonuses here, they're a larger sum so you have more room for error but I still feel it's mathematically an uphill battle.
Posted by Arithmajik: This got me thinking about the Casino No Deposit Bonuses here, they're a larger sum so you have more room for error but I still feel it's mathematically an uphill battle.
So how have you guys made out?
I did it a couple years back at Betclic and WillHill, but technically both were free money from ongoing promos which you could get right after signing up with them - like I did. So not the definitive no-deposit bonus, but I still had to wager them 20x times without even having a first deposit there. Nowhere else had the same success like these two above.
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 34 (M)
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Just out of curiosity how much approximately was your starting bank roll. Yeah it's the 20 - 35x play through requirements that make it really hard. What games / strategy did you employ to clear it? Or did you just get lucky and happen to make enough winnings on it that you could survive the playthrough?
Mostly is about luck. Let's say you win 6-8 euros on twenty freespins upon registering. You will have to play through at least 120-150 euros in order to release that money, and doing it you will need a couple lucky feature wins on high variance slots which pays out great to keep you ahead. Again you won't have great chance to do this, and back when I did them WillHill did not have a cap on your potential winnings like nowadays does (like in a similar promo at their casino section would only net you twenty euros at the end after a playthrough/wagering because they maximized your potential gain).
Joined: Feb '11
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Yeah, so it sounds similar to what I expected then. Casino games are tough to playthrough but at least they're fun. As you said a lucky win could make it easy to clear even the capped amount so it's probably worth it to give it a shot.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 42 (F)
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Yes, i have cashed out a couple of no deposit bonuses, by playing slots only. It can be done if the requirements are up to 30x, and you get lucky a couple of times, by winning free spins and bonuses. Selecting the right games also is a must. Never stick to one slot, for the whole amount of the bonus.
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 6687
Made a few cash outs years ago at the Rival casinos, as every one out of that group had a no deposit bonus on offer (at least at that time). Bet big early on, so you either go bust fast (most of the time), or have a decent hit (rarely) and then grind through the wagering with small bets.
Posted by Arithmajik: Yeah, so it sounds similar to what I expected then. Casino games are tough to playthrough but at least they're fun. As you said a lucky win could make it easy to clear even the capped amount so it's probably worth it to give it a shot.
Honestly eight out of ten online casinos have capped these potential winnings to fight off bonushunters and make it harder to exploit them. It's all about your luck nowadays.
Joined: May '08
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Roulette is usualy among the games excluded from bonus play, together with Craps, Baccarat and Blackjack. Most casinos restrict the games available so extreme, that it is basicaly onöy slots, without a progressive jackpot, and maybe Keno, if that game is on offer there.
Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 7978
its not so hard to do it,its just question how big is this bonus and can you play slow!but lot of people stick on one slot and they play till they lost it and think what a hell,its was free!if you get some bigger bonus,then just 5 or 10 e,then you can wager more easier!
I only once turned a no deposit bonus of $ 10 and something tangible ... I won about $ 200 ... but when I wrote support I was given a week to submit the documents ... but I could not do it because it was a weekend days and a few days have passed .... in the end, the bonus burned down and I never played in this casino again
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Montenegro
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 548
Its not easy to clear bonus with small stack, but if you do its question will casino paid you, they have rules which them oportunity to void or delay money. Recently in Bigdollar casino support was going to void my 350$ winnings thinked that this is from no deposit, but i was deposit 20 which he didnt see in that moment. Anyway i wait 10 days for money and i would nevermore play there.,no reccomend.
Joined: Jan '17
Location: Lithuania
Age: 61 (M)
Posts: 1756
Yes it is very hard to make money in end from casino no deposit bonus because many times wager needed. It is different but if yiu can trun pkay roulette or blackjack. Many times not allow so you play slots, if can play video poker, if not some slot where payout biggrr ajd need luck
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 42 (F)
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If you get a starting bankroll of 20+ USD then you have good chances of clearing a bonus, if the requirement is no higher than 30x. You have to choose wisely thought the casinos you are going to try. Some of them are just a waste of time, and can even cost you money on top of it...
Joined: Jan '17
Location: Lithuania
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I personally from online casino have not many chances to get deposit bonus and try to make money from it, because know in front that it is too hard so not make many deposits, but something around 10 times in all my years and only 2 times I have good luck and make money to able to make withdraw, and both time it is when roulette allow to play
Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 7978
depend what amount you need to wager and can you play whatever game you like!if you get small amount,then ofcourse is harder to wager it!but when this amount is 30 e for example,then you have very good chance,but you need to change slots and to play for small amount!
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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You can still find no deposit bonuses with decent wagering requirements. took a look earlier and there are lots of them with 30x. Although there is an increase in the requirements in many sites,for example a 20 euro no deposit bonus with 100x. Is there any chance clearing a bonus like that?
Posted by Mober: Although there is an increase in the requirements in many sites,for example a 20 euro no deposit bonus with 100x. Is there any chance clearing a bonus like that?
Depends on how big of a window you get for the playthrough. If it's less than 72 hours, then I would say no. If you could play every day for two weeks an hour so, you might be able to wager through 2k. I like slow and steady...
Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
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this 72 hour deadline is on party casino site and I think that on every bonus they give this option and to wager 10 or 35 times,depend is deposit bonus or wagering from free spins!but on no deposit or deposit bonus you have 3 days to wager it,which can be tricky if amount is big!
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